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Cowbee ,
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Modern music slaps. Just gotta find the right albums.

residentmarchant , (edited )

Care to share some of your favorites?

One of my favorites recently has been Djesse Vol. 4 by Jacob Collier

Cowbee ,
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Depends on how new you want it, but Rime of Memory by Panopticon is great.

Fizz ,
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There’s people on spotify with less than 5000 monthly listeners pumping out music so good it would have topped charts 10 years ago. The quality and talent of artists these days is insane.

laughterlaughter ,

These days? This has always been the case. I remember downloading mp3s from unknowns who offered their music for free in the internet on the early 2000s. Great music.

improbablypoopingrn ,

David Bowie had like, 2 okay songs.

whoisearth ,
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You’re wrong but I’ll bite. What 2 songs lol.

And I’m joking with the you’re wrong. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

improbablypoopingrn ,

Bring Me The Disco King, and that other one about taking protein pills

whoisearth ,
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Unrelated but pooping ok?

improbablypoopingrn ,

Fiber for the win!

Titou OP ,
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You’re walking on dangerous road mate

jaykay ,
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Has it come to this? by The Streets is awful, the worst song I’ve ever heard. It plays a lot on a particular station and it drives me nuts

mdhughes ,
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The average quality of music in the world doubled the day Kurt Cobain solved his headache problem. Grunge was a disease caused by not changing your clothes, and using too much heroin instead of learning to play instruments and sing.

And, I’m peak GenX and a Seattleite.

Zahille7 ,

That’s kind of a dark way to word that, damn.

Hackworth ,

Alright, Courtney, no need to shit on his grave.

mdhughes ,
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Also, Courtney Love is 10x the musician Kurt ever was, listen to any track on America’s Sweetheart and you’ll break your heart. It’s better that she’s free.

stoy ,

Rap and Hiphop are just shit music.

I have a pretty broad music taste, I have rock, classical, pop, eurodance, opera, bitpop, industrial, metal, ballads and more on my phone, except rap or hiphop.

There is just something in me that as soon as I hear either it just sounds like shit.

Zahille7 , (edited )

I like it because I can equate it to poetry. You have to be one talented motherfucker to come up with some of those rhymes, and to be still able to put it along to a rhythm and beat, sometimes incredibly fast (Busta Rhymes, George Watsky).

ETA: I also have a soft spot for three particular white Jewish boys from NYC

Dicska ,

I’ve been thinking about something similar (as someone who isn’t a fan of rap/hip-hop). No matter how much I don’t like it (the actual music behind it is too bland for me), it has the greatest potential to deliver deep lyrics with puns and other wordplay.

But then it got me thinking: What the HELL is holding is back from improving the other genres’ lyrics, or actually slapping some decent music on top of rap/hip-hop music, and not just some bland base or short and repetitive catchy tune?

Zahille7 ,

There’s a lot of rap and hip-hop that isn’t just running along to a bassy beat. Busta Rhymes doesn’t rap to a beat, and he comes up with some clever lines. I’ve heard that Childish Gambino is one of the most clever writers right now, with some lines in Bonfires and Sweatpants being pretty damn hard.

I really like A Tribe Called Quest as well, because they have a more jazzy sound than most. I REALLY like Digable Planets though because they’re like the ultimate fusion of funk, jazz, and hip-hop.

Dicska ,

I may check some out, thanks for the examples!

Revan343 , (edited )

For more unconventional hip-hop, try Flobots. Handlebars is the only song that got radio play and it’s alright, but most of the rest of that album is better. Mayday is my favourite song by them

TeryVeneno ,

You shouldn’t generalize, a lot of the stuff that gets played a lot is not indicative of the whole genre. There is some rap that makes me cover my ears, and there is some rap that makes me feel enlightened. Hip hop it just depends on the song, since there is so much variety.

stoy ,

I mean, OP litterarly asked us about what our most unpopular opinion about music is, this is mine.

I would never impose this view on others, they are free to like what they like.

TeryVeneno ,

That’s true, I was just hoping to maybe convince you to try out something that maybe you don’t know is wonderful yet. I’ve had that experience with music before, and I think it helped me to understand why people like things

stoy ,

I have had it happen several times with music, lastly with Opera and Classical music.

captain_aggravated ,
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On the rare occasions I’m scanning through FM radio stations, the reason I hit the Next button the fastest when I find myself “listening” to a hip-hop station? The hi hat. tss ts ts ts ts ts tss ts tssssss. It’s most of what you hear, everything else is mixed down in the mud beneath it. I’m informed this is an…artistic choice?

Zahille7 ,

Also, I implore you to listen to JU$T by Run The Jewels and really listen to the lyrics.

stoy , (edited )

I tried to, but I just coulnd’t stand the rythm or the rapper’s voice.

Sorry but the genere just isn’t for me.

The one song that might classify as rap/hiphop that I do enjoy is youtu.be/KD59LJX2r38 though is has a lot of pop in it, the video is quite cool, and I would be lying if I said that I would not like to have a fur baseball cap.

Zahille7 ,

It helps if there’s a transcript to read along with it. Zack De La Rocha from Rage Against The Machine has a verse at the end of that song that hits really hard, because he’s a great lyricist.

There’s a line in El-P’s verse where he says “hand on my heart and my mind on my drugs, got a Vonne-gut punch for your Atlas Shrugged,” and the whole song is about modern ultra capitalism and our state of society at large.

BmeBenji ,

IDK if it’s unpopular, but I’m worried that TikTok, Instagram, and Youtube Shorts have completely screwed with what kind of music gets popular nowadays. It seems like every popular song has some kind of intense drop because content creators love the “quick build up to some kind of visual punchline” video format and it has ruined what I think could otherwise influence and encourage originality

0_0j ,
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Ditto

Fizz ,
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Also record labels probably can pay to have tiktok promote their music and that makes people like it artificially.

teawrecks ,

Historically, music changes to fit the medium that’s used to deliver it to the listener. Short form video is no different. I just have to trust that artists will always find ways to say what they need to say. After all, “the enemy of art is the absence of limitations.”

BmeBenji ,

I have never heard that quote. From what context does it come? It sounds somewhat ridiculous to me

teawrecks ,

It’s often attributed to Orson Welles, but I don’t know if that’s accurate. It is paradoxical, yes, but I find it to be a commonly relatable sentiment though across many art forms. It almost seems like the art world’s version of “necessity is the mother of invention”.

Without limitations, there’s little opportunity for art; or to frame it another way, if everything is expected, nothing can be surprising. It’s when an artist’s work “jumps off the page” that people are in awe, so it’s important there’s a “page” to “jump off of” as it were.

HobbitFoot ,

The same thing happened in the mid 2000’s with ringtone rap. This phenomenon is older than people think.

Etterra ,

That rap is absolute garbage. For reasons I can’t explain it makes me unbelievably angry to have to listen to. It probably has something to do with a combination of my anxiety and sensitivity to loud noises, but I don’t know. I do like metal, although I don’t like it particularly loud.

southsamurai ,
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All music without lyrics/singing is background music.

HipsterTenZero ,
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The hipsters are right, popular music directly coorelates to shitty music.

I only want to hear you sing if you’re singing your heart out to the void.

Firebirdie713 ,

Disturbed’s cover of Sound of Silence is not only awful, it is an antithesis of the meaning of the song. Anyone who likes that version better than S&G’s arguably doesn’t understand the point of the song, and the fact that everyone holds it up as the gold standard of “covers better than the original” is even worse.

A close second is Postmodern Jukebox and their horrendous tendencies to take tempos to an opposite extreme instead of finding more meaningful ways of changing the genre of a song. I like some of their stuff, but the number of people who love their cover of Welcome to the Jungle is mind-boggling to me.

There are plenty of songs that I prefer the cover of to the original (Whitney Houston’s ‘I Will Always Love You’), or ones that just give the original a modern coat of paint without changing much else (Smash Mouth’s ‘I’m a Believer’), but these songs in particular are just awful imo.

darganon ,

I don’t mind a cover changing the meaning of a song, but stuff where the cover is just the song again is…lazy as fuck?

Like Fast Car by (country music guy) is fantastic, but it’s the same as the original, which is also fantastic. Feels cheap or something, I don’t know. Like the whole Weezer cover album was boring as fuck. The songs are technically great, but why listen to that over the originals? Rivers said his goal was to try and reproduce the original sound, which seems like an interesting exercise for the band, but not for the listener. So that wraps back around to respecting the band.

Anyways, I have a lot of strong feelings about covers. Make it your own, even if you don’t change it that much.

JackFrostNCola ,

I think Johnny Cash’s cover of ‘Hurt’ is probably the gold standard of a cover exceeding the origional

Brickardo ,

Pink Floyd is the most mediocre group in the prog rock scene (also works if you remove everything after ‘group’)

LucasWaffyWaf ,

I ain’t gonna call them mediocre myself, and The Wall means a lot to me personally with my own life journey, but there’s absolutely better, more musically interesting prog rock groups out there than Pink Floyd.

Melatonin ,

Limiting drummer (so I hear)

morrowind ,
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Lyrics ruin most music. This is one is weird because I actually love the sound of the human voice, but it most music its just ugly. Also most of the lyrics themselves suck. Usually vague, meaningless, hoping you’ll interpret them as something deep. There’s just so many songs that most lyrics have to be bad.

Also drums ruin most music. They are harsh, dissonant, overly loud, overpower subtler instruments, and reduce complex, varying melodies to a simple beat. Even when I want simple heavy beats, I prefer electronic alternatives (no idea what they’re called) so it’s not so harsh

edinbruh ,

Mine is: I don’t really listen to music

jjjalljs ,

“the Beatles are overrated” is a poorly defined statement often made by people who give the impression they want to be seen as an iconoclast of some sort.

Ok. Overrated on what metrics? Historical impact? Popularity at the time? Popularity now?

“I don’t like the Beatles’ music” is probably closer to what people mean, and that’s fine. I rarely listen to them on purpose. But the whole “I don’t like them, and neither should you” thing is kind of insufferable.

0_0j ,
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TBH people listened to these Beatles high on acid. And somehow the radio stations where persuaded to play their songs more frequent.

Perfect recipe for verse rush

Default_Defect ,
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I generally assume that “popular thing is overrated” is generally said just to troll people. At least, I like to dog on things that are popular that I’m not in to just to get a raise out of people that can’t accept any criticism of their thing.

GrayBackgroundMusic ,

When I say they’re overrated, I mean I don’t understand why they’re so popular. They’re not bad but they’re not that good, either. I don’t understand the praise lauded on them. It’s too much relative to their quality.

I can understand if someone loves them in their time. For example, Nirvana was absolutely amazing in their time. However, it’s been 30 years and that sound is a lot more mainstream, but in their day, they were breaking new ground.

But my kids age? Why do people think they’re that good?

1hitsong ,
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That punk died in the early 80’s.

SnotFlickerman ,
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That Portlandia sketch with Jello Biafra waking up from a coma to the Yuppies having won was probably the only really good and well thought out sketch on that show.

MummifiedClient5000 ,

Sir, this is not a “Your unpopular opinion about sketch shows” thread.

Please leave without making a scene.

SnotFlickerman ,
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The sketch supports the assertion that punk died in the early 80’s. That’s all.

MummifiedClient5000 ,

Sir, you are making a scene.

SnotFlickerman ,
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*throws trashcan through window

MummifiedClient5000 ,

Punk!

1hitsong ,
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Portlandia sketch with Jello Biafra

I thought it was 2 “No more yuppies.”

Zahille7 ,

The Simpsons bootleg one is pretty good imo.

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