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Why stand in line to board an airplane?

The seats are assigned. People have been standing in line for 15 minutes now. Why on earth would anyone want to stand there, when they could just sit and wait until the line clears?

I understand wanting to get off a plane ASAP, but boarding? You just end up sitting on the plane, waiting for everyone else to get on.

nutsack ,

brother you and I are the same

Raiderkev ,

I literally chill til the very end of boarding before I get on. Like you said, my seat is assigned, it ain’t changing, and I’m packed light enough to put my backpack under the seat in front of me. Sometimes people don’t show up n I sneak into a better seat 🤫. I’ve only ever been called out for that on Frontier, they know the hustle apparently. I’ve never bothered trying 1st class or anything, but I’ve gotten some middle seats to transform into aisles that way.

GBU_28 ,

Overhead space. The only upgrade I pay for is boarding group, and I want to maximize my upgrade purchase, so I want to be at the front of group 2.

I only travel with an appropriately sized carry-on but I’m a bit tall so I can NOT have the bag by my feet.

So I want to guarantee I have the overhead right above my seat.

I also generally work on the plane so I can get my laptop and such out easily while standing at my seat, then put my bag up worry free.

Frozengyro ,

Also, when you will likely be sitting for 2+ hours, I like to stretch my legs a bit before then. I don’t need to sit at my gate for an hour before going into a plane to sit for 3 more hours.

modifier ,

This is the answer. Trace it back to the early 2000s when airlines started charging for checked bags. That created an immediate premium for overhead space and kicked off the Boarding Wars we now find ourselves in today, where airlines and passengers alike contort themselves literally and figuratively in an attempt to work around this one massive consequence of corporate greed.

-20 airline professional

GBU_28 ,

I wish there was just seat designations in the overhead. If shit is in my slot, yeet.

jkrtn ,

I agree. But this would require them to provide adequate space up there for each passenger. They are squeezing seats together so tightly that may no longer be possible.

modifier ,

Bin designs are just now getting to the point where there is something like a 1:1 relationship between passengers and overhead space. Only a small fraction of the flights operating (at least in the US) have these bins, though.

Some of the new Boeing aircraft, as it happens, so it’s a trade off…

smb ,

I see only one reason, why i would want to be early at the seat. its bcs if i am not, my backpack might be placed above but multiple seats away by the crew, where it is then uneasy for me to have an eye on it whilst easy for theives to take and open them, especially on long flights there would be plenty of opportunity like when everyone is sleeping.

but for this case i use locks on the backpack anyway, so that anyone who wants to open it, either opens it where nothing of value is in it thus no lock, or at least has a much harder time than when trying the very same with other bags…

also on longer flights i usually did not have that problem, but that could also have been just luck

Raiderkev ,

Thieves aren’t buying multiple hundred dollar tickets to bip your laptop from your bag man.

smb ,
  1. i am sure you won’t pay for it if my laptop disappears this way (if yes, lets make a contract with a lifetime “fee” of 0$ i pay you whilst you pay for everything that got stolen from me in a plane)
  2. ppl with kleptomania do travel too
  3. how could you know? you are not talking about you and your colleagues or such?
  4. such statistics were made by those who benefit from planes looking more safe.
  5. “work and travel” vs “steal and travel”, which is more likely be done by a thiev?
  6. not all theives “need” to steal, some just do so because they can, others maybe because its family tradition.
  7. sometimes it could be more important that nobody could possibly put something into(!) your bag (and remove it later) to let you get it through customs for them, those arguably “would” buy such tickets to do so, as it’s probably part of their income, but i guess thats only a problem when flying in or out of countries with big illegal drug imports.
  8. <something i forgot>
Raiderkev ,

I’ve literally never had anything stolen from an overhead bin, and I’ve never given the slightest of fucks about monitoring my bags unless I was traveling to like a 3rd world country, and even then, it’s overkill to worry. It’s a captive audience, and the dumbest place to steal. The airline has everyone’s name/info. It’s certainly possible, for someone to, but definitely not likely.

smb ,

yeah, that’s why i am happy to avoid the us when travelling, mainly because of reports that electeonics are bricked regulary by them, but this discussion is more about theft. like “never allow hand luggage to be checked, better miss the flight instead”:

…stackexchange.com/…/how-common-is-it-for-airport…

it’s not always about travellers that could lay hands on your stuff, maybe staff “needs” a living wage too ;-)

Raiderkev ,

Yeah, but the op was talking about worrying about people on the plane stealing from his bag in the overhead bin, not the TSA stealing from it. But yeah, TSA is grimy AF, I always make sure to count my money before and after I put my wallet through the security line. I also wouldn’t trust valuables in a checked bag as well.

Pinklink ,

Agreed. Can we talk about getting off though? Everyone seems to have their own idea about how to do it and here is my proposal that I am very certain is the most efficient: plane lands at gate, but doors haven’t opened yet. The AISLE seats get up, get their bags, wait patiently in aisle till doors open. The WHOLE LINE of aisle standers files off (they are all ready to just leave), then the next inner seats get up, get their stuff, and file off, etc. Every time someone is “polite” and lets people get up infront of them, they hold up the entire line of aisle standers, and anyone else who could be getting up from their seat and grabbing their things. The entire plane has to wait each time someone says “yes I could just walk forward and leave the plane right now, but please go ahead and take your time getting out of your seat and grabbing your things before I go”

jaykay ,
@jaykay@lemmy.zip avatar

I don’t want to look for my seat with 20 people in front and 20 people behind me, touching my ass cos there is no space . If I have a window seat, then I have to also deal with the people sitting next to me, they get up, walk out, I sit down, they get in blah blah blah

neidu2 , (edited )

Because once through thebgate, there’s the line of actually getting into your seat because some people tend to stand in the aisle and block everyone while taking their jacket off. And if you’re in a prioritized boarding group you can circumvent most of these by getting into the plane early, which results in more time watching youtube while sitting on my ass.

Source: frequent flier. In fact, I’m typing this from seat 9F on an Airbus A320neo right after sitting down.

sanguinepar ,
@sanguinepar@lemmy.world avatar

There’s no way the airlines allow you to take a donkey onboard, surely?

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

eh, if youre in first class you could potentially start getting served drinks before boarding is complete. i know i have.

that said, ive often waited til the plane was mostly seated/no line before boarding even if seated in first.

Dempf ,

The nice thing if you ever fly first class is that you’ll typically get boarding priority and sometimes even your own door on larger planes so that you don’t have to interact with the poors (j/k I’m a poor too, I’ve just booked first/business class before when I have enough points saved up so that it’s worth it).

vext01 ,
@vext01@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Same when the plane lands. You must be the first to unclip and stand. He who stands longest wins.

themadcodger ,
@themadcodger@kbin.earth avatar

That for me is a stretching thing. I don't care if I'm back of the plane, I'm standing up as soon as we're allowed.

Skua ,

You're allowed to get up during the flight though

themadcodger ,
@themadcodger@kbin.earth avatar

Oh, well in that case I'll just stand during the flight, and remain seated when we land so other people who care too much about what strangers are doing feel more comfortable.

Skua ,

Mate I'm not telling you off for wanting to stretch, just puzzled about why you don't do it earlier on when you start feeling cramped

feebl ,

Because him standing early so he thinks he can get off the plane earlier good, standig during flight bad because logic

Sneezydinosaur ,

I’m on a Boeing plane. I’ll stay buckled and seated, thanks.

HopFlop ,

Every time, a good 75% of people stand up before it’s allowed and it annoys me every time.

jaykay ,
@jaykay@lemmy.zip avatar

Naaah, leaving the plane should be in order of the seats. Not “I stood up first”. Now you have to play the game of:

  1. Push your way into the standing line
  2. Let one standing person through, but then the whole line just keeps going cos they’re in a rush to stand in another line at the airport
vext01 ,
@vext01@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I was being sarcastic, in case it wasn’t clear.

GBU_28 ,

Standing is superior to sitting unless you are disabled or unhealthy

finthechat ,
@finthechat@kbin.social avatar

The question you should be asking instead is why would you shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane?

Blackout ,
@Blackout@kbin.run avatar

I do it to give the people still sitting something to tut over.

ininewcrow ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

People’s mentality after waiting at the airport for six hours for a six hour flight …

THIS IS THE LAST HELICOPTER OUT OF VIETNAM!!!

youtu.be/4qA1qziN484

son_named_bort ,

Not all airlines assign seats. I know Southwest doesn’t, you just find an empty seat once you board. In that case it makes sense to stand in line.

OhmsLawn OP ,

Absolutely.

RvTV95XBeo ,

But your position in line is assigned. When they ask the A group to line up and the Bs start hovering they’re not accomplishing anything.

Zak ,
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

Southwest assigns you a position in line. You can pay for a better one. Their passengers don’t spend a lot of time waiting in ad-hoc lines before their group is called like other airlines.

kbin_space_program ,

Because you do not have assigned overhead bag storage, and people bring either bags that are too big, or bring multiple bags

classic ,

Exactly. The airlines created this situation when they began charging for check-in bags

PatMustard ,

Haven’t they “solved” it by charging for hand-luggage too?

bionicjoey ,

Relevant CGP Grey

OhmsLawn OP ,

I was just mentioning this to my lady before boarding. I found that video absolutely fascinating.

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