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Is it just me, or have the comments on Lemmy become extra aggressive over the past 3 months?

I feel like things on Lemmy were pretty chill several months ago, and that’s started to change.

People used to talk each other like they would talk to a neighbor. Now I get the sense that people have become quick to be negative, attack, and not be constructive.

Am I crazy in feeling like the vibe has changed?

MargotRobbie ,

The 80/20 rule applies to toxic Internet behaviors as well, 20 percent (or less) of the user base is responsible for 80 percent of the toxicity.

It’s always the same people being awful here, if you are taking notes, you can quickly identify the worst posters on this platform after a week. People always complain about how they are unfairly banned by reddit moderators, but you have to remember, sometimes the bans are really justified.

I think the ony real (and unpleasant) solution is to moderate very aggressively whenever there is bad behavior (although, I must add, permanent bans should be rare and reserved for extremely bad behaviors)

ergifruit ,

this and a prodigious use of your block button. you don’t owe anyone the right to talk to you like a jerk. and even more, you curate your online space. vibes are off? you’re allowed to block people. even if they haven’t said anything to you specifically. if someone is the sort of person you would never want to be around IRL, why allow them in your space online?

Kedly ,

The free ability to block users and instances here is AMAZING

NotJustForMe ,

As long as you are able to differentiate between bad language (skills), cultural differences, and bad behavior. On Reddit that’s basically the same. Many things may sound harsh, but are often just expressed frustrations, voiced in an imprecise way. And often, nuance is lost in translation. Many foreigners aren’t used to nuance like Americans are.

Many Europeans won’t hold back. Like, you tell your neighbor that he’s an idiot directly to their face. Out of love; how else would they know. Apparently, none of their friends told them. Poor fellow. Just an example. I’ve learned that Americans won’t do that, for whatever reason. they would just call them idiots wherever they are not around, and keep smiling. ;)

Omega_Haxors ,

That really is the case. Back when I went to war with feddit de for constantly leaving shitty comments I was surprised at how few people I had to block from that instance before the abuse stopped coming my way. Now that you mention it, 20% of the population sounds about right.

sukhmel ,

Tangentially related, but yeah, some usernames one can remember after seeing them for the umpteenth time and then one spots the same people all over the hot topics 😅 that doesn’t only apply to toxic ones, it’s just that an active core of Lemmy community is still small enough, a nice time to be a part of it

jacktherippah ,

OMG, yes! I’ve been running into so many rude/toxic comments lately. For me it feels like this place is devolving into Reddit again.

OtakuAltair ,
@OtakuAltair@lemmy.world avatar

US elections + an ongoing genocide that same country is funding tends to do that.

Surreal ,

I thought I was being targeted by trolls, so I wasn’t the only one

Facebones ,

I don’t mind disagreeing and even bickering a bit, but when somebody gets extra or pointedly disengenuous I just block em. IDGAF. 🤷

MonsiuerPatEBrown , (edited )

I apologize if these include me.

As we in the US loom towards the election I am getting more and more raw and worried about it. And with that my fear brings out screechy obscene me. That is one of my fear responses that I lose the handle on a lot.

So please forgive me. I will try to avoid political threads as we ramp up to either the end of American democracy or the continuing gerontocratic oligarchic republic.

Baylahoo ,

I feel the same way. I’m not sure if it makes it better but you’re not alone.

paraphrand ,

My sympathies. Really.

thorbot ,

Lemmy is a left leaning echo chamber loaded with hateful and violent speech toward Trump and the GOP in general. Whenever I bring this up, I get downvoted to oblivion. I hardly engage anymore, not like I used to. Too much crazy. Trust me, I fucking hate Trump, but the death threats and shit are too much

DigitalAudio ,
@DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz avatar

I’m not even American and I usually don’t care either way, but it’s so annoying. Why can’t we just have apolitical or at least more focused communities online anymore? I would literally join any community that outright banned all political speech for a change nowadays.

Baylahoo ,

I follow American politics because I know it will affect me. I feel like I need to know. I don’t think that that info should exist everywhere. Getting a break is very important to me too. Everything seems to be much more political with the Internet because how much more aware we all are. I would like to see some community where it’s not politics or governments or anything.

DigitalAudio ,
@DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz avatar

Exactly. Just discuss anything else. Whatever. I don’t care anymore. I don’t want to know. I have absolutely no control over whatever happens in most countries, and I only have control over my own votes (if anything). Online discussion and politics always gets insanely toxic and dogmatic.

Gabu ,

Being apolitical is the same as being worthless. It is the absolute duty of every member of the polis to participate actively, which includes praxis.

DigitalAudio ,
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That doesn’t mean we need to discuss it everywhere, all the time. For starters, not everyone is American and wants to see American centric discussions everywhere, and also, not all discussions everywhere need to start revolving around modern politics. Creating apolitical spaces doesn’t mean being an apolitical individual. Just wanting to look for more peaceful alternatives.

I’m perfectly fine with being called worthless if you can’t see the logic behind that, I legitimately don’t give a shit as long as I can get a break from the insane and miserable shit throwing that is online political discourse.

If you like feeling miserable and angry every time you go online, great for you, but I’d much rather have an option not to do that.

Chadus_Maximus ,

Taking about U.S politics is a good way to make anyone not from U.S leave. I don’t care about politics, yet my wish to not get bombarded by it simply cannot be fulfilled here. So I have to seek other social media platforms, which means I spend less time here.

littlebluespark ,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

The simple (depressing) fact that U.S. politics affects nearly every single person on the globe to some degree makes your indifference towards politics in general somewhat dangerous on a personal awareness level. Consume what data you choose, but avoiding it only prolongs the inevitable?

Gabu ,

hateful and violent speech toward Trump and the GOP in general.

As should be the case :)

These groups are only alive by sheer mercy.

spider , (edited )

Well, that’s what Trump and the GOP do, so turnabout is fair play.

However, “left leaning” is a relative term. Just mention the Green Party and you’ll get a hail of downvotes and / or accusations of pro-Russian sympathy from establishment Dems.

Allero ,

Essentially this place is Palestine-Ukraine-Biden-centric, and that is long known.

Saying anything on the opposite, even marking the shortcomings of above governments and military will immediately get you downvoted, regardless of your actual stance.

This is a problem we have for a while.

One potential solution? Keep voicing it up, screw everyone who downvotes. If they want to bring arguments, they’ll have to do it in text. If they make threats, report them to mods. Down arrow means nothing by itself.

Kedly ,

LMAO

rabiddolphin ,
@rabiddolphin@lemmy.world avatar

You got to be edgy on the internet, it’s the law

paraphrand ,

And it’s self reinforcing through irony laden posts like this.

Katrisia ,

I haven’t noticed, but some people say they are feeling political tensions, and…

The year 2024 is notable for the large number of elections, with 7 of world’s 10 most populous nations (Bangladesh, India, United States, Indonesia, Pakistan, Russia, Mexico) voting; countries that are home to nearly half of the world’s people will hold elections in 2024.

From the Wikipedia complete list.

I guess everyone is just a little worried about national and international elections.

lolgcat ,

This is the first I’ve heard this perspective. It’s worth keeping in mind the remainder of the year. Thanks for that

sukhmel ,

I’d say things look progressively grim in the world even outside the elections being another possible source of problems. I used to not know what anxiety was, now I can only wish I still didn’t

Mango ,

I FART IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

I bite my thumb at you, sir! And at you, as well, sir!

ettyblatant ,
@ettyblatant@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t wanna talk to you no more!

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!

GoodEye8 ,

YOUR MOTHER WAS A HAMSTER AND YOUR FATHER SMELT OF ELDERBERRIES!

doctorcrimson , (edited )

Marked spoiler for potential vibe harshing

spoilerIt might be a mix of a lot of things. The Palestinian Genocide, Ukrainian War, Chinese Expansion, actual probable chance of a second Trump Presidency, and a great many other issues are probably weighing heavy on the minds of net denizens. That and less sunlight than in the summer months. Plus I’ve never seen any posts from a Foodporn or cute pets lemmy community, but I have seen crimes against the culinary arts and some posts about pets that have died. People are just not feeling optimistic, and that leads to feelings of repression and anger.

rbos ,
@rbos@lemmy.ca avatar

The superb owl community is pretty great for cute animals

littlebluespark ,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

It really is. And, the Flammulated beat the Great Horned in a complete upset during the community-wide poll! 🤩🤘🏼

snek ,
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The spoiler block doesn’t work on Sync it seems, unless you used the wrong >!spoiler tags!<. I wonder if it was the full stop or it being broken over several lines.

doctorcrimson ,

I definitely haven’t used the wrong tags because my instance formatted it for me when I selected the text and clicked the spoiler button above the text box. I’m sorry yours uses a different format or that your reader/viewer application doesn’t support it.

snek ,
@snek@lemmy.world avatar

Weird, I did the same from the editor. it works for me on Sync bot not on lemmy.world on web /: Guess they need to sync these, otherwise we’ll have spoilers floating around everywhere in the face of unsuspecting readers

sukhmel ,

Seems like Sync only understands one-line spoilers, so you need each line in a separate spoiler

Porokoro ,

The Palestinian Genocide

Lol imagine believing this

Hackerman_uwu ,

The halcyon days of Lemmy lasted a week or so. As soon as you have mods coming over for Reddit you have all the shit they are schlepoed along with them. I’m only in here when I’m shitting and then only because I’ve memorised the blurb on the back of the air freshener can already.

0ops , (edited )

I feel like peek peak positivity and optimism was during the weeks between the reddit protests starting and the actual app ban

littlebluespark ,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed. Also: “peak”. Sorry. 😅

Yoz ,

That’s just normal behavior of human beings.

NikkiDimes ,

Fuck you

Edit: im sorry

Yoz ,

Lol 🤣🤣

lseif ,

thats something a complete idiot would say

lemmy ,
@lemmy@lemmy.stonansh.org avatar

😝

NotJustForMe ,

I would guess that many people came here for that reason. On Reddit, keeping etiquette has become more important than contents. Having your post deleted because of noninclusive language or harsh tone, that’s not fun. Having to write “in my opinion” before any relevant sentence is also annoying. Of course, it is. It’s always opinions.

Bunch of pansies with keyboards, as some would say.

It might be partly that. And have you seen how neighbors talk to each other?

I try to concentrate on the content, and I always keep in mind that the author might be in a hurry, is having a bad day or whatever. It’s rarely personal.

Renacles ,

That’s not the Reddit I remember

rabiddolphin ,
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Porokoro ,

This place has always been a shithole. It has been months since I’ve been on here and this place is still as mind numbingly stupid as ever. The userbase is 40% brain dead Marxists who are vile and hostile, 30% insufferable tech bros who spam the same posts and articles day after day, and 30% annoying Redditors that made Reddit annoying who decided to migrate over.

There was a brief period of time over last summer when the Reddit meltdown was still fresh where this place saw a surge of normal people posting normal content, but the newness of this site faded and most people went back to reddit where is actual content, thus leaving the extremists and spammers who would’ve been banned on there anyway.

gapbetweenus ,

Found the guy responsible.

Porokoro ,

What I said is true

gapbetweenus ,

Yeah, you are definitely contributing to the negativity. That is also true.

Porokoro ,

Okay, cry about it

gapbetweenus ,

Thanks, for making my point for me.

Porokoro ,

You’re welcome

gapbetweenus ,

See, not so difficult to be a good, polite boy. Have a treat.

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