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TipRing , to technology in A PR disaster: Microsoft has lost trust with its users, and Windows Recall is the straw that broke the camel's back

I know it’s WindowsCentral but the article has some pretty naive takes. Given the propensity of threat actors to target Windows due to its market share it’s impossible to not see a system that records user activity as a huge treasure trove for both malware and hackers.

It also doesn’t mention that Microsoft claimed that it would be impossible to exfiltrate Recall data and of course researchers found it not only possible but trivial, with the data lacking even basic protections. Assurances that there are mechanisms to prevent Recall from secretly monitoring you mean nothing when prior assurances about safety have been found to be paper thin at best.

Further it ignores that telemetry gathered by Windows has dramatically increased in the last several years with methods to disable it being eliminated or undone by OS updates. Microsoft is hungry for user data and it would be absurdly naive to think that Recall won’t be a tool they use to gain more of it. If not now, then definitely later.

The author does point out that Recall has been weirdly under wraps, avoiding the usual test bed for new feature rollout. Microsoft has been acting shady about the feature and then the feature itself does shady things (like record PII, credit card data, etc.), of course users are going to think the worst. At this point it’s a survival tactic.

Microsoft doesn’t have trust issues because of bad PR or a few missteps. Microsoft has trust issues because they have violated user trust repeatedly for decades. They have done nothing to make users feel like they care at all about keeping Windows secure and safe and they clearly have no regard for user privacy. This only question is whether this backlash will do anything to make Microsoft reconsider the way it treats its users. I predict they will learn all the wrong lessons from this.

MehBlah , (edited ) to technology in Microsoft addresses Windows Recall backlash, promises to fix security issues and make it opt-in

There is no way I’m going to use a machine where they can turn on something remotely through a update or some other fashion. I probably won’t even have a 11 vm at home now. I’ll keep the 10 vm for its minor uses until it can no longer do the few things I use it for but that is it for me. Remove that garbage or lose more of us macroshaft.

BombOmOm , (edited )
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

It boggles the mind this isn’t an external download you have to specifically navigate to their website to download and install. The fact it is soon to be on Win 11 systems, just a toggle away, is terrifying. Particularly since lots of people handle your personal data, while data collectors like this are on their machines (and many of those machines will have the collector turned on).

RustyShackleford ,

I wish, now have a i9-14900KF, so guessing no more Windows 10 anymore. Planning to make a Linux partition, but frustrating the way that Windows tries so adamantly to take boot priority.

vikingtons ,
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

I’d recommend separate physical disks if possible. Set your boot order via uefi

RustyShackleford ,

Thanks. I’ve personally never altered boot order before, but it can’t be too complicated, right?

vikingtons ,
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not very intuitive but it isn’t so bad once you’re familiar; you can take a look at this whenever’s convenient for you.

When you boot the system, you should briefly see your BIOS splash screen, along with the key combo to get into your BIOS setup menu. Let us know which mainboard vendor you have and we may be able to tell you in advance (For Asus, it’s usually F2, for Gigabyte its the Delete key, for MSI it might be F12 etc). I just mash the specified key when prompted until I’m in.

There’s usually also a key that you can hit to select a temporary boot device (I.e. I can hit F12 on my gigabyte board to select any OS detected by the BIOS, not just boot into the top entry).

Once you’re in, have a look for the ‘Boot’ section. You should have the capability to define your boot order. These entries can consist of traditional disks connected via SATA/SCSI/m.2, USB drives, network locations etc.

You can arrange this boot order however you like.

I would also recommended temporarily disconnecting any existing drives when installing an OS on your system (e.g.: Windows attempts to store its bootloader on SATA 0 by default, even if the OS isn’t destined for that drive).

flappy ,

Is Windows 10 unsupported by the newest processors?

RustyShackleford ,

I looked it up shortly after posting, surprisingly seems like Windows 10 is supported, but 11 did better in a few of the tests.

iterable , to technology in A PR disaster: Microsoft has lost trust with its users, and Windows Recall is the straw that broke the camel's back
@iterable@sh.itjust.works avatar

Seen gamers install things worse then Recall. So to them they won’t care. Unless it hurts their latency or fps.

____ , to technology in Microsoft addresses Windows Recall backlash, promises to fix security issues and make it opt-in

Shame I stopped believing that BS from them circa winME…

kevin , to technology in Microsoft addresses Windows Recall backlash, promises to fix security issues and make it opt-in

We have seen this game 100 times. Opt in for now and then turned on for everyone 6-12 months later. It’s just a temporary move to handle the bad PR.

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You forgot the best part

Silently turned on via “security” update

Ozonowsky ,
@Ozonowsky@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a security update because it adds new security vulnerabilities.

bobs_monkey ,

Same as it ever was

WhoIsRich ,
@WhoIsRich@lemmy.world avatar

Or the other trick of constantly prompting “Turn on / Maybe Later” until people either accidentally accept or just give up to make nagging stop.

DarkDarkHouse ,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That guy at the club who won’t fuck off

merthyr1831 ,

registry switch that’ll mysteriously reset itself. we’ve had this shit with countless windows configurations at work that our IT guy has to battle with on the regular.

conciselyverbose ,

I’ve had so many people jump down my throat for listing some of the many obviously fucked things Microsoft did on my PC just over the life of Windows 10. (And not that it should matter, but I even paid for Pro).

I turned all their various advertising and spying “features” off through legitimate settings, group policies, whatever, and the list of things that reverted themselves over time was insane.

ouRKaoS ,

User: Goes through 15 step process to turn off unwanted “feature”.

Windows: I turned this on, in case it got turned off accidentally. I’ll do this every reboot.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

And not that it should matter, but I even paid for Pro

It should matter though. If MS wants to give away Windows for free, then users should expect compromised privacy. But it’s not. They charge hundreds for it.

If Windows made a paid version that was private and secure, and that the user was in control of, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

conciselyverbose ,

If they were giving away Windows for free, their behavior would still be unforgivable.

There is no scenario where any operating system including spyware or ads can ever theoretically be acceptable behavior. Any person who contributes in any way to that happening belongs in a prison cell.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Well that’s the only way a “free” product is sustainable.

conciselyverbose ,

Linux is free qnd plenty sustainable.

If you can’t support providing something for free via a mechanism that isn’t pure and unadulterated evil, then don’t do it for free. “We have to be monsters to make money” is not a valid position.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Linux is free qnd plenty sustainable.

It also has a vast array of enormous compromises, which is why no one uses it.

arf ,

I understand you have qualms with Linux, and that’s plenty fine, but when the large majority of servers and smartphones around the world run it, you can’t say that no one uses it.

conciselyverbose ,

That’s not true at all. It has a huge market share, just not in desktops.

But again, that’s completely and utterly irrelevant. If being evil is the only way for your business/product to exist, it does not deserve to exist.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Yeah dude, there’s nothing they can do to fix this. They have eroded the trust of their users for decades. It will take them decades to get it back, if they actually tried.

Also it took hackers days to find vulnerabilities. Which is a massive security concern.

arf ,

Can anyone give me examples of times Windows has done this in the past? I mean, I feel like this is true, but I legit can’t think of anything that matches this.

odelik ,

In the last 6 months:

  • One Drive reinstalled and turned back on on my personal & work computer multiple times.
  • AI Co-pilot added to my machine and enabled “so you can start using it now!” with an obtrusive pinned shortcut on my start bar, to both of the same machines but at different time intervals. Uninstalling is virtually impossible and requires registry mods to 'remove" it. Not even a powers he’ll command can remove it.

I don’t want, or need, this add-on garbage.

arf ,

Perfect examples, thank you 👌

wreckedcarzz , to technology in Microsoft addresses Windows Recall backlash, promises to fix security issues and make it opt-in
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

“we will change nothing but announce it like we did”

sverit , to technology in A PR disaster: Microsoft has lost trust with its users, and Windows Recall is the straw that broke the camel's back

Well, getting their OpenID Signing Key for Azure Active Directory stolen was magnitudes worse in my opinion.

cisa.gov/…/CSRB_Review_of_the_Summer_2023_MEO_Int…

fah_Q , to technology in Microsoft addresses Windows Recall backlash, promises to fix security issues and make it opt-in

How about you promise to remove your build in spyware?

bobs_monkey ,

Musnt anger the shareholders

just_another_person , to technology in A PR disaster: Microsoft has lost trust with its users, and Windows Recall is the straw that broke the camel's back

Why is Lemmy showing me news from the 00’s?

Katana314 , to technology in A PR disaster: Microsoft has lost trust with its users, and Windows Recall is the straw that broke the camel's back

The article was revised with a PR release from Microsoft saying they’ll make the feature opt-in.

Let’s of course not forget that things like upgrades to Windows 11, and use of an MS Account instead of local account, were opt-in…until they weren’t. Require them to sign a contractual agreement that this feature will remain opt-in forever.

AWittyUsername , to technology in A PR disaster: Microsoft has lost trust with its users, and Windows Recall is the straw that broke the camel's back

Where are at point no where new features added to something (phone, OS, website, etc) are only to further monetize the user while providing a minimal benefit.

People are losing trust with technology providers.

If this technology existed back in Windows 95 days people, would have gone wild for it.

masquenox , to technology in A PR disaster: Microsoft has lost trust with its users, and Windows Recall is the straw that broke the camel's back

TIL: There are still people that trust Microsoft.

helenslunch , to technology in A PR disaster: Microsoft has lost trust with its users, and Windows Recall is the straw that broke the camel's back
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

As expected, there is no evidence that this is “the straw that broke the camel’s back”. Don’t waste your time reading this article.

MS has been doing this kind of shit for decades and their market share has never changed significantly.

Was it stupid? Yeah. Are people upset? Sure. Is anyone going to do anything about it? No, because the vast majority don’t care or they would have stopped using it a long time ago.

Weslee ,

I’m using windows 11 and after hearing about recall and all the other shit they’ve done, I’ve finally decided to make the jump to Linux

So for atleast me, this was the final straw

fluckx ,

I had dabbled in gaming on Linux but never made the jump. After reading about recall I spent a week making my choice on OS of choice ( and then I switched a week after :') ).

I’m fully on Linux now. Even if they fully back down from windows recall I dont need an OS that’s trying to sell me something based on whatever I do in it.

It was my final straw as well.

Edit: and it hasn’t really been bad either. The shader compilation after every gfx driver update is a bit annoying. That’s about it.

I’ll probably run into something at one point. Like some anti cheat that doesn’t work and is preventing me from playing the game.

Macaroni_ninja ,
@Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

Im in similar scenario. Which distro you decided on?

barsquid ,

If you are interested in gaming, Bazzite is built on top of a Fedora distro but adds default installs of Steam and (optional) Nvidia drivers and tweaks. It’s got a cool immutable root setup. You should be able to stay pretty up-to-date, but can roll back the entire OS if an update breaks something.

fluckx ,

I ended up with nobara ( KDE ). Though if i had to reinstall I might give bazzite a go.

No hate for nobara though. It’s working fine gaming wise. Had a gfx issue once after an update, which was resolved by just running the nobara system updater.

I have some issues getting devpods to work. But that is completely unrelated to gaming :D

kava ,

If you don’t enjoy having driver issues, just install regular old Fedora with Gnome. The fancier you get with Linux, the more maintenance you have to put into the system. Fedora works out of the box.

fluckx , (edited )

Tbh it was kind of my fault. I should’ve used the general updater that comes with nobara by default.

Edit: the devpod issue is a bit weird and not driver related. Its got something to do with SSL when its trying to clone the git repo. But I can run the clone command myself just fine. Honestly the devcontainer hasnt really worked out great for me in combination with jetbrains.

It might work better with vscode, but that editor makes me want to throw my device out the window. All the love to people who use it/enjoy it on a daily basis but it is just not for me.

Macaroni_ninja ,
@Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. I only had so far Linux experience with my Steam Deck, I will look into these distros.

sgtgig ,

A couple people recommended Fedora spins but I’d recommend just sticking with the big distros (that have up-to-date graphics drivers readily available - so not Debian.) A lot of the gaming-focused distros are only saving you a few terminal commands and increase your risk of running into issues; they’re good, but they may not be as 100% stable as you’ll find in major long-running distros like Fedora or Mint.

I have settled on Fedora with KDE Plasma. Here’s basically everything I copy pasted for gaming:


<span style="color:#323232;"># install steam, discord, nvidia drivers
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm -y
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sudo dnf config-manager --enable fedora-cisco-openh264 -y
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sudo dnf update -y
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sudo dnf install steam discord akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># install bluetooth Xbox driver
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sudo dnf install git dkms
</span><span style="color:#323232;">cd /tmp
</span><span style="color:#323232;">git clone https://github.com/atar-axis/xpadneo.git && cd xpadneo
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sudo ./install.sh
</span>

I also had to enable Legacy X11 App Support through the settings gui so that Discord could receive push to talk presses without having focus.

Macaroni_ninja ,
@Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

Sweet, thanks. I want to start something straightforward and so far Mint looks very promising.

tomkatt ,

Just be sure to get the edge release if you care about gaming or have current (like newer than 2021) hardware. Mint’s main release is on an old kernel, 5.15 I think. Mint edge release is running kernel 6.5, which is from earlier this year.

fartsparkles ,

Linux has lots of flavors; and just like ice cream, you can have a scoop, see if you like it, and try another one later.

I’ve been through so many Linux and Unix flavors over the years, it’s borderline absurd. But what was great is that I found a flavor just right for me and my needs, like finding your ideal car. Don’t worry about making the right decision on a flavor at the start, just dive in.

Ubuntu, Fedora, Mint, Pop! OS, Manjaro, elementary OS, Zorin etc are great starting points. You’ll hear people bigging up Arch, Nix, Gentoo, Slackware, Void, etc. There’s are all great in their own way and very well might be the right thing for you but don’t feel pressured to jump in the deep end (unless you love that thing, then be my guest - Arch was a lot of fun getting it up and running for the first time).

The best decision I can suggest is learning about mount points and having a drive dedicated to your files and simply mounting that drive inside your home directory. It means you can wipe and try another distro wherever you like without having to copy your files off and on over and over again.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I 100% agree. I personally did this:

  1. Ubuntu
  2. Fedora
  3. Arch
  4. openSUSE Tumbleweed

I had a reason for each switch, and I’m pretty happy where I’m at. That said, I don’t recommend openSUSE or Arch to new users even though I think they’re fantastic, I just think a new user will get better support with something Debian or Fedora derived.

Weslee ,

Which distro did you end up on? I’ve been looking into them and after using steamos on my deck, I think I will go with Bazzite kde

fluckx ,

I ended up with nobara. I might give bazzite a go at one point, but more out of interest. Nobara is treating me just fine!

Bulletdust ,

Edit: and it hasn’t really been bad either. The shader compilation after every gfx driver update is a bit annoying. That’s about it.

If it’s shader compilation under Steam, turn it off in settings. With advancements in graphics drivers and Proton, it really isn’t needed anymore.

I disabled it about 12 months ago and haven’t noticed any difference in performance whatsoever.

fluckx ,

Huh. Interesting. I’ll give that a try too then :)

where_am_i ,

Some, maybe 1-2% of Windows users keep yelling “I’ma switch to Linux”. They then try it for a few days and give up.

You didn’t matter in the first place, but also you will most likely not make a successful transition anyways.

Weslee ,

Lol. Okay whatever you say.

Delonix ,

Crab

Dark_Dragon ,

Same here

Adderbox76 ,

I get that. And, playing the devil’s advocate here…what happens in a couple of years when the time comes to purchase a new Laptop/desktop that comes pre-installed with Windows? Will your current ire and consternation hold up until then, meaning you’ll take the effort…long after this current “trust crisis” is over…to install Linux once again. Or, with this current scandal a faint memory from a few years back, will you just kind of shrug and say “Hey…it’s there, I might as well just go with it.”

I mean no offense, and I by know means want to presume your answer here. But I’d be willing to bet 90% of the people who, in a pique of ire, replace their current windows with a linux distro, won’t bother to do the same when they purchase a new laptop down the road.

lightnsfw ,

Installing Linux is a pretty trivial process at this point. Not much additional work beyond what already comes with setting up a new laptop. Especially of you’ve already done it before.

jaybone ,

Unless it’s arch lol.

Rivalarrival ,

Every machine I’ve purchased in the last 16 years has had a Linux liveCD or USB key before first power up. Windows has tried to boot a couple times, when I was too slow to figure out how to select a boot device, but none has actually completed the boot process. I take a sort of perverse pleasure in formatting pre-installed windows without it ever having run.

Adderbox76 ,

That’s my strategy as well. I just don’t know how many of us there are that are that committed vs the people who are “temporarily irate” and then go back with their next purchase because its “easier”.

Weslee ,

I get your point, and you’re probably right for most, but I haven’t purchased a premade desktop in a looong time - my current desktop I purchased the parts individually and installed windows manually

kava ,

But I’d be willing to bet 90% of the people who, in a pique of ire, replace their current windows with a linux distro, won’t bother to do the same when they purchase a new laptop down the road.

Linux is superior to Windows. Not only do I get more done and faster, I enjoy the process much more. For example, you know AHK? That useful application on Windows where you can make macros?

Well, on base Fedora you have an AHK built right into the system without any modification and you can use shell scripts- aka a real language instead of the wonky AHK language.

That’s one example. I can list them off rapid fire but I’d just write a wall of text unnecessarily.

My point is just that Linux is better. I don’t use Linux because it’s cool or interesting or I’m a hobbyist or anything like that. I use it because it’s the better option for the things I do on my computer.

That may be different for you. If you are a graphic designer or a music producer that may be different. But I’m usually in a terminal and Unix is the superior terminal. Windows terminal is such a joke they literally had to port in the Linux terminal through WSL

Kiernian ,

Thank you for your service to this thread.

IzzyScissor ,

the vast majority don’t care or they would have stopped using it a long time ago

It’s a little disingenuous to claim people should’ve stopped using something that hasn’t come to market yet. I was looking for other options when they started trying to force me to upgrade to Windows 11, but this absolutely is the last straw that I won’t use Windows on my next computer.

helenslunch , (edited )
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

It’s a little disingenuous to claim people should’ve stopped using something that hasn’t come to market yet.

It is. Good thing I didn’t do that.

I was looking for other options

Oh well I guess the global tide is shifting if you are personally looking for other options.

IzzyScissor ,

You said there was no evidence that anyone would change. I told you my personal story how this IS impacting me and how I’m going to change OS on my next computer, and you… just sarcastically dismissed me?

Did you want to actually contribute to the conversation or just be upset?

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

You said there was no evidence that anyone would change.

No that is not what I said.

just sarcastically dismissed me?

Because your personal anecdote is not indicative of societal movement.

octopus_ink , (edited )

the vast majority don’t care or they would have stopped using it a long time ago

Try reading the sentence with this implied bit explicitly added. I’m pretty sure this is what was intended, and is why you are getting the response you are.

the vast majority don’t care (about Microsoft’s continuous bullshit) or they would have stopped using it a long time ago

The bit I added is communicated by the context from the preceeding sentence in the original comment:

MS has been doing this kind of shit for decades and their market share has never changed significantly.

npz ,

I just read they decided to default it to off. They should remove it entirely imo, but with this move, it costs IT departments $0 and 0 hours of their time to worry about.

I think business + government + education usage is more important for them than personal, and as long as this costs them nothing, I doubt it makes a dent in anyone’s plans. Could have been an apocalypse if defaulted to on though.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I just read they decided to default it to off.

From what I’ve seen they will be asking yes or no upon setup with no default.

JordanZ ,

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    “Not now”

    festus ,

    I both agree and disagree. I agree that there isn’t going to be a single ‘straw’, because everyone’s thresholds are different. For me it was back when Microsoft auto-upgraded my PC to Win 8, which was also when they started putting in hard-to-disable telemetry and bad UI. It sounds like Recall is the threshold for some other people.

    Also don’t discount that MS’ market share is dominated by a ton of corporate users (who lack a choice) and casual users (who don’t care / are unaware), but at least anecdotally they’ve been losing the power users in my life, which if true in general which will have negative downstream effects for them moving forward (IT departments working to support alternatives, software developers refusing to build on Windows Server / MS software stack, etc.)

    someacnt_ ,

    If only there is a way to invest in linux usage

    rottingleaf ,

    For at least 3 decades. That’s twice more than the time between Second Boer War and WWI. That’s the time between the start of WWII and the initial versions of Unix. Or between the initial versions of Unix and Start Wars the Phantom Menace. More than between the original Star Wars and the Phantom Menace.

    autotldr Bot , to technology in Microsoft addresses Windows Recall backlash, promises to fix security issues and make it opt-in

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Today, Microsoft announced it is addressing a recent backlash around Windows Recall, its controversial forthcoming AI-powered search service that works by taking a snapshot of your PC every 5 seconds.

    Recently, it was discovered that the feature stores data unencrypted on the device.

    The company says it will ensure Windows Recall data is safe by employing “just-in-time” protection, which ensures the data is only decrypted when the user authenticates into the app with Windows Hello.

    Additionally, Microsoft says it will make Windows Recall an opt-in experience, meaning it won’t be enabled by default on Copilot+ PCs.

    Microsoft also says it’s making further security improvements to Windows Recall.

    It will now require Windows Hello (via facial recognition and/or fingerprint) to be set up on the system and require the user to be present in front of the screen to access Recall data.


    The original article contains 232 words, the summary contains 141 words. Saved 39%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

    rtxn , to technology in A PR disaster: Microsoft has lost trust with its users, and Windows Recall is the straw that broke the camel's back

    My dad is now pissed at both Microsoft and Adobe, and curious about Linux. If I can find a Lightroom alternative, he might actually switch.

    qjkxbmwvz ,

    I’ve heard that RawTherapee is good, but not quite on the same level.

    Axiochus ,

    Also one of the dumbest names ever.

    eestileib ,

    Sounds like something from a kink brothel in Sedona.

    PervServer ,

    RawTherapee and The GIMP

    dust_accelerator ,

    they knew.

    refurbishedrefurbisher ,

    Like darktable?

    apfelwoiSchoppen ,
    @apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

    I haven’t found a suitable replacement yet. I know this is somewhat niche but nothing on Linux can do batch management of Keywords as well as Bridge or Lightroom. I wish I knew anything about C to contribute.

    accideath ,

    Fun fact: I’ve heard the Adobe suite works fairly well in Linux, if you find yourself a version without DRM

    apfelwoiSchoppen ,
    @apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

    I tried to install some PlayOnLinux Wine shit but it didn’t work.

    accideath ,

    Have you tried installing it via Lutris and using Proton-GE as runtime?

    apfelwoiSchoppen ,
    @apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

    🫨

    apfelwoiSchoppen ,
    @apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

    Did not work. :( TBF I am not very technically minded with Linux.

    Avatar_of_Self ,

    PlayOnLinux? When was this, 15 years ago?

    refurbishedrefurbisher ,

    I know of the GitHub script to install PhotoShop, but wasn’t aware that the rest of the suite worked.

    accideath ,

    I also just read that they would. Never tested it myself. I only use Adobe on my work mac.

    refurbishedrefurbisher ,

    Ah. I don’t use Adobe products, so not really willing to test myself.

    couch1potato ,

    I employed imagemagick recently to batch edit some pics via CLI but I’m not sure if it’s a drop in replacement for bridge and lightroom.

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