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kadu , to technology in Xbox's new policy — say goodbye to unofficial accessories from November thanks to error '0x82d60002'
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  • spudwart ,

    If you use windows, this is the way it will be on PC in a few years as well.

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  • sizzler ,

    Didn’t we lose one of the two main gpu producers recently?

    bamboo ,

    No? Nvidia and AMD have been the main competitors for a while in the high end space, and Intel recently entered that market after dominating the integrated GPU space.

    kadu ,
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    Lose one? I’m not sure what you’re talking about, to be fair. Are you thinking about EVGA no longer making GPUs? They’re just making the boards, not the chips, many competitors exist.

    We have 3 major players providing GPUs in the PC market: Nvidia with a significant lead, AMD, and the newcomer Intel.

    Patch ,

    If you count integrated GPUs (which still absolutely dominate the non-specialist PC and laptop market), Intel are hardly a newcomer. Their foray into discrete GPUs is new, but the distinction is fairly arbitrary from a technical perspective.

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  • Patch ,

    The Intel HD Graphics block inside a Core i5 is very architecturally different from an Intel Arc GPU.

    Both Intel Arc and the integrated SOC GPUs use Intel’s Xe architecture. There are obviously big differences between integrated and discrete GPUs, but they’re largely implementation rather than base architecture. Implementing something on-die is a different task than implementing something on its own wafer, but that’s not where the serious design legwork goes.

    sizzler , (edited )

    EVGA, that’s who I was thinking of. So we still lose them really from the forefront. Also like Intel and AMD isn’t pushing for further control. Exactly what I meant.

    dudewitbow ,

    Evga is an AIB(and a single one in a goant pool), not a GPU designer like Nvidia/Intel/AMD are. The equivalent in console terms would be like madcatz dropping out of the accesory creation game. The only difference is that the accessory makers also have a hand in the hardwares design, but not the actual compute core itself.

    sizzler ,

    I appreciate you clarifying that, they were one of the largest would you not agree? Anyway point still stands, not enough competition in the gpu designer market would you agree?

    dudewitbow ,

    one of the largest yes, but the latter part of your statement is completely off.

    just talking about nvidia AIBS alone off the top of my head, theres: MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, Zotac, Galax, Colorful, Inno3d, PNY, Gainward, Palit.

    and this is just nvidias optioins. There’s a lot of competition. EVGA was a favorite to those living in the U.S due to having reletively better customer service, but it was far from not having competition.

    Clbull ,

    I assume he meant EVGA. They’re a hardware company that used to manufacture graphics cards designed by Nvidia but exited the GPU market because of unfavorable contract conditions eating into their profit margins.

    Plenty of other third-party manufacturers exist like Sapphire, XFX, PowerColor, Zotac, ASRock, Inno3D, Colorful, MSI and ASUS.

    As for the main companies that design (and also manufacture) GPU’s: AMD, Nvidia and more recently Intel.

    Clbull ,

    I think the moment that happens, it’ll truly become the year of the Linux desktop.

    Over the course of fifteen years, we went from WINE being able to run nothing but World of Warcraft in a playable state, to thousands of games now being playable through Proton with equivalent or even sometimes better performance than Windows.

    Valve were wise to put their eggs in the Linux basket, because they’ve evolved Linux as a gaming platform by leaps and bounds. Steam Machines may have flopped but the Steam Deck has sold millions and given developers legitimate reason to support Linux (or at least SteamOS.)

    There’s been talk about Microsoft plastering ads all over Windows 11 or making Windows 12 a subscription-only OS. Linux is free, open source and ad-free.

    A_Random_Idiot , (edited )

    because having a stable, unchanging platform is a lot easier to code on and extract performance from than the 100,000,000,000 billion possible combinations of PC hardware.

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    You can get angry over it all you want, it doesnt change the fact that its the truth.

    In fact, the state of games in general is shit because a lot of you fucking goblins with more money than sense keep running out and pre-ordering/day1ing games and fawning over them no matter how much of a broken piece of shit they are, and white knight against any and all criticism. Maybe if YOU stopped creating a market for shitty, broken, badly performing games, They’d stop fucking releasing shitty, broken, badly performing games.

    But no, you don’t want to be responsible for your actions, So you want to take it out on everyone else… because god forbid it ever be mommies special little angel thats at fault.

    So remember that next time you want to scree about consoles or whatever else. Cause they are not the problem. People like you are.

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  • PinkPanther ,

    I don’t have a lot of time for gaming, and my desktop computer I built 12 years ago still works for what I need it for (and the occasional Rocket League rounds), so the PS5 is just easier. Plug and play when I want to.

    Been playing games I got through the PS+ Extra for two years, and haven’t purcy for a single game since, as I’m a patient gamer, and the selection of games is right up my alley!

    Oh, and if I’d have the money (and time), I’d get aPC instead. Maybe when the PS6 is released.

    dudewitbow ,

    But its 2023, pc gamers get free games every week on epic without having to pay for an online subscription, and thats solely just epic.

    A_Random_Idiot ,

    Its not my fault, so why don’t you go take a breath.

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  • A_Random_Idiot ,

    Ah yes, shooting the messenger cause you don’t like the message.

    What a fine argument.

    HobbitFoot ,

    Because it is cheaper to develop for, so you tend to get games that take better advantage of the hardware and increase performance.

    You also have consumer inertia too.

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  • HobbitFoot ,

    But are they worse than a $500 off the shelf computer?

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  • HobbitFoot ,

    Your graphics card might be cheaper than a whole console, but you still spent more money on a computer initially, so you would have to compare the cost of two consoles to one new computer and an upgrade.

    And it likely is better performance now on PC versus console now for only a bit more money, but PC’s haven’t caught up on price for equivalent performance and likely never will.

    And I say this as someone whose last console that was bought for its performance was a PS3.

    NateNate60 ,

    Consoles are initially sold at a loss or no profit to incentivise people to buy games on their platform, where the real profit is made. However, at this point in time, yes, you can buy pre-built gaming PCs for around $500 that will run circles around an XBOX Series X or PlayStation 5. You can even buy a $300 office computer then pop an A580 or something in it and make it a fully-equipped gaming PC. Even more so if you use your own hardware and build it yourself.

    If you’re just looking for something that works out of the box when you buy it, there are tonnes of people on Facebook Marketplace selling custom-built gaming PCs for around that price range that will still outperform lastest-generation consoles.

    Don’t forget, when comparing performance, consoles generally use a mixture of medium/high settings to guarantee a steady 60 FPS whereas PC testing is traditionally done on Ultra/High presets.

    I will say that PCs do require a bit more technical knowledge and maybe some tinkering to get the best performance though. If all you do is game and you know nothing about how to do anything else on the computer, I would recommend the console ten out of ten times.

    Rokk ,

    I can also buy and sell console games 2nd hand though which isn’t possible on PC anymore.

    That said, PC piracy probably wins overall if you’re looking the absolute cheapest option. But that’s kind of a different set of arguments.

    NateNate60 ,

    That’s true, I miss secondhand PC games too.

    PCs have other benefits too, such as free online access that would require a subscription on consoles. Unrelated to gaming, a PC can be used for other things too. The only non-gaming use for a console is as a home media player. A PC can do that and much more. A gaming PC also makes an excellent productivity machine, whereas you can’t exactly edit spreadsheets and presentations on most consoles (except the Steam Deck).

    Rokk ,

    I gamed on PC for many years and basically only moved to a console when I had kids a few a years back.

    Both have benefits. For me, I like the not being distracted by other stuff on the console. Like if I sit down to game, on PC I’d often just end up on YouTube, twitch, check reddit, emails, whatever. I like that my console I just use for gaming.

    I still play on my PC from time to time and there’s obviously games that are only on PC, but my preference is console for the current phase of life and that’s fine for me.

    TORFdot0 ,

    As a consumer, having certified static hardware configuration means you know exactly how it’s going to run off reviews on the same hardware. You know that you are going to get support the manufacturer and aren’t going to have to worry about the manufacturer of the motherboard pointing fingers at the manufacturer of the GPU or RAM or CPU if you have a problem. Updates and driver support is all handled by the OS.

    But probably the biggest reason is that consoles already have the best name recognition, higher user adoption, and hardware is sold at a discount compared to comparable PCs.

    flop_leash_973 ,

    While there some advantages to that static more gate kept setup that we all could argue about for years on end, the answer to your question boils down to money and control like pretty much everything else.

    csolisr ,

    Console developers sell at a loss specifically to tie you to their ecosystem and get as much money from you as possible. Which is why it’s so complicated to get a PC equivalent in specs to, say, a PS5 at the price of an actual PS5 - unless you go to the used parts route and learn how to assemble parts by yourself.

    Pxtl ,
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    Simple: because they’re cheaper.

    Like, say you build a gaming PC that’s comparable to a PS5. I think it would be extremely hard to come up with a combination of PSU, ram, mobo, GPU, CPU, wifi, storage, case, keyboard, mouse, and game controller that costs less than a PS5 and has comparable performance. Even if you picked entry-level components. And you still have to pay the Windows tax probably. And all of that was much more difficult than just buying a PS5 – not everybody has the time.

    HC4L ,

    Then again, rebuying all your games and paying way too much for them is something to take into account. But admittedly, the PS5’s thing where you can play some PS4 games is pretty neat.

    dudewitbow ,

    Theres actually a single one on the PS5, it essentially has a chip to hardware accelerate storage to ram loading speeds that PC speeds cant fully tap into yet.

    Playstation devs are just badly leveraging the sole advantage it has.

    The Xbox is virtualy a pc.

    kadu ,
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    You’re absolutely correct about this chip - but it’s actually possible to replicate on PC with modern GPUs and CPUs, as they have really fast decompression blocks for specific algorithms that would work for game assets.

    The issue is that for compatibility reasons developers don’t rely on them.

    SamBBMe ,

    Isn’t direct storage the windows equivalent?

    dudewitbow ,

    it has some of the speed, but it’s not quite the same. direct storage is something the Xbox would have access to, but xbox is not directly hardware accelerated in the same way the PS5 is. Think similar to FSR VS DLSS. one utilizes special hardware in order to achieve its result.

    LazyBane ,

    Back in the day, Nintendo got big on quality control. That’s less of a selling point now that almost every big publisher is pushing for yearly releases and devs need to rush out unfinished games to meet corporate expectations. A console was also just miles ahead in user friendliness that a computer up until around the PS4/Xbone.

    The way forward for consoles these days is to have more interesting hardware, but Microsoft is resistant to just having gyro in the xbox controller so don’t hold your breath for the next xbox being anything worth looking at.

    j4k3 , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy
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    Open AI died the moment Meta’s Llama model weights were replicated completely open source. The outcome is guaranteed. It does not matter how much better the enormous proprietary model can be, people will never be okay with the level of intrusive data mining required for OpenAI or Google’s business model. Personal AI tech must be open source and transparent with offline execution. AI is the framework of a new digital economy, not the product.

    griD ,

    AI is the framework of a new digital economy, not the product.

    That is one interesting sentence. Thanks.

    krellor ,

    I don't think it's as much that the meta model was replicated as much as they fully open sourced it with a license for research and commercial use.

    I actually think the market demand will be fairly small for fully offline AI. The largest potential customers might be government who require full offline hosting, and there is a small group of companies servicing that niche. But even government customers who require that their data is segmented are simply having enclaves setup by the big cloud platforms where they guarantee that inputed data isn't fed into the training process and doesn't leave the customer environment.

    I fully support folks who sustain open source AI frameworks, but in terms of commercial customers that will drive industry trends with dollars, I expect there will be demand for hosted solutions that use proprietary models.

    drlecompte ,

    Yeah, but not models that are trained on data that raises copyright concerns, which is currently the case.

    AngrilyEatingMuffins ,

    The courts aren't going to side with copyright holders. As much as the US loves its ridiculous copyright laws it loves profit and being on the bleeding edge of tech more. There is absolutely ZERO chance that the United States will let China, who does not care about IP, carry the keys to the AI kingdom

    TheEntity ,

    people will never be okay with the level of intrusive data mining required for OpenAI or Google’s business model

    Where do you meet these people? I need more of such people in my life.

    drlecompte ,

    ‘People’ in this respect are also the owners of media sites.

    Riker_Maneuver ,
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    Yeah, I was about to say, 99% of people are either unaware or do not care. Don’t mistake Lemmy’s privacy opinions as representative of the general population.

    HumbertTetere ,

    There’s currently a meeting in Germany with about 4000 of them.

    But it’s not the prevailing mindset in the general population.

    knobbysideup , to technology in Microsoft accidentally leaks internal tool that can enable hidden Windows 11 features

    “accidentally”

    Your platform is not exciting Microsoft. It’s also a royal pain to manage or fix.

    A “leak” of tools that should just be out there to begin with is lame.

    autonomoususer , to technology in Microsoft is reportedly banning Palestinians in the U.S. for life for calling relatives in Gaza

    Meanwhile we get banned here for saying war crimes bad.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
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    You can’t say war crimes are bad, because that helps Trump win. Trump will do more war crimes. Ergo, saying war crimes are bad means you’re in favor of war crimes.

    uis ,

    You can’t say war crimes are bad, because that helps Trump win.

    So am I supposed to root for Putin now?

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
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    You need to root for Joe Biden, because he is the only man who has ever beaten Donald Drumpf.

    If you are not rooting for Joe Biden, you are anti-American.

    Tja ,

    Everything in this comment is true.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    Just missing something about Nazis and voting for blue colors.

    FordBeeblebrox ,

    Can I root for Bernie and begrudgingly vote for Biden at least? This lesser of two old white evils shit is exhausting

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
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    Nobody is stopping you.

    Dkarma ,

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  • UnderpantsWeevil ,
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    Just eat more pineapple.

    ZombiFrancis ,

    That phrase reminds me of a book worth a read: goodreads.com/…/21935933-keep-rootin-for-putin

    prole ,

    Here? On Lemmy? Where did you get banned for saying that?

    irreticent ,
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    Imaginationland.

    Honytawk ,

    Hexbear and Lemmy.ml

    cro_magnon_gilf ,

    I’ve mostly seen comment removals. Mods seem to use the option to remove comments instead of the downvote button… I tried to make a forum for mod abuse and discussions about how forums are moderated, but so far nobody is using it.

    Post to !mods if you notice patterns of that sort of thing, maybe we can get it going.

    todd_bonzalez ,
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    I have some notes:

    None of what you’ve posted in that community includes enough context for me to make an informed opinion about the mod actions themselves.

    The first post you made 7 months ago includes a screenshot, but it doesn’t include the OP, so I have no idea what the Mod is even reacting to. For all I know I might agree with them. You also say it is on the “main meme sub”, but I have no idea what that means, you really need to indicate the exact community you are talking about.

    The next two posts don’t include anything tangible. No screenshots, no permalinks, not even usernames for the allegedly misbehaving mods. Only one of them actually says what community you’re talking about.

    None of what you’ve posted so far constitutes a “pattern” either. You’re mostly just complaining about one-off disagreements that you’ve had with Mods. This isn’t really doing anything to help hold mods accountable.

    And in your posts so far, you make a lot of extremely suspect complaints:

    In your first post you claim that a mod removed a meme for being “not funny to feminists”, which kinda sounds like code for “sexist meme”. You then go on to say that the mod “is surprisingly tolerant for a feminist”.

    In your second post you say that a mod “removed comments that weren’t feminist”, and sarcastically bemoan “so much for politics”.

    In your third post claim that a mod removed a comment for “not voting left”, but then go on to complain that others in the thread (not mods) called this person a Nazi. I don’t see what any of the other users comments have to do with anything if your goal is to hold mods responsible, but it’s also fairly telling that you think being called a Nazi is disagreeable, but won’t provide the context…

    Quite frankly you come across as a anti-feminist shitlord who has decided to be a busybody and make a whole community for you to be butthurt about feminist and anti-fascists mods. The reason nobody else contributes to the community you started is because you’ve set the bar so miserably low.

    irreticent ,
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    cro_magnon_gilf ,

    Those are great notes, thank you! It’s kind of a low-effort community though, I must confess. I figured if more people wanted to be part of it, it could become more serious with better formatting. Since that hasn’t happened, I just threw in some stuff now and then to have any content at all.

    Quite frankly you come across as a anti-feminist shitlord who has decided to be a busybody and make a whole community for you to be butthurt about feminist and anti-fascists mods. The reason nobody else contributes to the community you started is because you’ve set the bar so miserably low.

    But yeah, you’re right that might have meant I set the bar low. I was never much of a content creator. As for anti-feminism, yeah I am anti feminist. Not because I don’t support and respect womens rights, but because under the guise of feminism, men become second-class citizens, due to the unfaultering belief that women always deserve more, and that being a man is a sin that should be punished. But that’s not what the community is about. Anybody is free to post there.

    Woht24 ,

    How dare you speak ill of Daddy War Crimes

    queermunist , to technology in OpenAI could be on the brink of bankruptcy in under 12 months, with projections of $5 billion in losses
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    Totally not a bubble though.

    MajorHavoc ,

    Yeah. It’s a legitimate business, where the funders at the top of the pyramid are paid by those that join at the bottom!

    SeattleRain , to technology in Microsoft is reportedly banning Palestinians in the U.S. for life for calling relatives in Gaza

    Stallman was right again.

    lambalicious ,

    Always has been.

    ObviouslyNotBanana , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act
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    I just switched to Linux. Get fucked!

    demonsword ,
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    and that’s the only long-term winning move, because MS shenanigans will never end

    ObviouslyNotBanana ,
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    I may have lost my sound card drivers, but at least I’ve not got to put up with windows (don’t worry I’ve got an external soundcard)!

    mojo ,

    Exactly. All the latest chaos that Microsoft does, you know you’ll be immune and your desktop will be the same for as long as you get bored of it lol.

    ObviouslyNotBanana ,
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    My laptop gets the fun experiments, my desktop plays the games

    mojo ,

    Same except in reverse lol. My laptop is out of date fedora because I’m lazy to update since it’s a youtube/twitch machine pretty much. My desktop gets the bleeding edge + games.

    ObviouslyNotBanana ,
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    I’m testing stuff on my old ThinkPad!

    macattack ,

    I’m team Linux as well

    set_secret ,

    I, really really want to switch to Linux. I duel boot and use Linux for study. but there are some apps I just can’t get around, and have to switch back to Windows for. I ran some cool scripts that stripped Windows of bloat and uninstalled edge and ads, and I have to say. it’s almost as nice as Linux now. runs faster too.

    ObviouslyNotBanana ,
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    Honestly what finally pushed me was when windows suddenly decided that going to sleep and keeping on sleeping was too much to ask for. Haven’t found anything that doesn’t work on Linux yet, but I mostly play games.

    0ddysseus ,

    Its a bit of drama but if you have a look at setting up qemu with virtual machine manager its worthwhile.

    It makes virtual machines that directly utilize the hardware, meaning you can run your stripped out windows inside a window on your Linux desktop.

    Its pretty hard to get your GPU to pass through but if its non-gpu oriented apps you need its perfect. My fixed windows VM boots in about 10 seconds, has next to zero network usage, uses 2 cpus and 4gb of ram, and just runs its couple of little apps no trouble every day

    set_secret ,

    I’ll check this out ty

    DigitalBits ,

    You need 2 GPUs (essentially) for GPU passthrough to work correctly. I gave it a go once and it never worked correctly. Absolutely right for non GPU apps though, or with some VM’s, older games.

    KrummsHairyBalls ,

    Same, but I switched back today. DaVinci Resolve doesn’t support AAC audio on Linux, even on the paid version (literally everything uses AAC audio). The closest thing to any kind of usable photo editor is photopea, and that’s web only.

    Linux is just unusable for media creation, unfortunately.

    PopOfAfrica ,

    I really wish the affinity suite would make a linux version.

    KrummsHairyBalls ,

    Same. That would help a lot.

    miss_brainfart ,
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    Unless your media is made in Blender, then it’s pretty good. Inkscape has been getting nicer, too.

    But that’s about it, yeah.

    kratoz29 ,

    Man I miss Linux, I swear one day I’ll install it on my old Mac, at least as a funny project.

    circuscritic , (edited ) to technology in Microsoft addresses Windows Recall backlash, promises to fix security issues and make it opt-in

    I maintain one baremetal Windows install that gets fairly regular use. It’s on a major OEM business class workstation with a legit Windows 10 pro license.

    Recently, I had to wipe and reset and goddamn do they try and trick you into choosing all the worst spyware settings AND even if you successfully duck and weave past them, they’ll just cheat and enable them, or reinstall shit like co-pilot during an update.

    They just made me sign into that shitty M365 app to install a legit subscription of Office, and on the next reboot, it converted the local user account into an online user account.

    Make no mistake, Recall is going to be enabled by hook, or by crook, for the vast majority of Windows 11 users in due time. No matter how many times they disable it, or opt out.

    RustyShackleford ,

    Yup. We’re back to the old days where Microsoft didn’t give a damn and enabled things by default.

    It’ll take less than a decade before they get sued, yet again. By then, the penalty will be <5% of what they’ve made, but the merry go round will circle back and start all over.

    Djtecha , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

    Once steam covers 90% of games windows becomes irrelevant.

    atthecoast ,

    So what you’re saying is, 2024 will be the year of Linux on the desktop?

    PhlubbaDubba ,

    I do wonder about that, Gen Z and Alpha are less tech savvy than millennials, so there’s non zero odds that it doesn’t work out because Linux isn’t easily accessible in the tablet/phone space yet.

    And no android doesn’t count

    gh0stcassette ,
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    Mobile Linux is a thing, though I think it would take governments mandating unlocked/user-unlockable bootloaders to gain literally Any market share. It would also probably take a compatibility layer for running Android apps similar to Wine in desktop Linux, but Android already runs a Linux kernel, so projects like Waydroid are most of the way there already by just running Android inside a container.

    psud ,

    They are also less wealthy than X and millennial were at first computer purchase age. GNU/Linux is cheap

    PhlubbaDubba ,

    The OS is but the hardware ya gotta install it on could be another story, especially with gaming distros becoming more and more common

    psud ,

    Sure for gaming you want a pretty expensive machine, but for a user who wants web and email a used low end laptop will perform great

    HW07 ,

    I think we need rock-solid Wayland before we can expect TYLD. So I’m feeling 2026 minimum, then add a couple for some padding; so 2028 realistically. Think of how far we’ve come in 5 years, then imagine 5 years more.

    If Nvidia’s consumer GPU market share dropped a bit too, that’d help.

    frostinger , (edited )

    Why do you think that Wayland is necessary for adoption? In my opinion it is the missing hardware drivers, compatability issues and “getting your hands dirty” while constantly tweaking stuff. Yeah it got better over the years, but most people want things to just work.

    HW07 ,

    Wayland is necessary because Wayland will be necessary in the near future, if it was next year then that would put a lot of people who don’t know about X.Org and Wayland through a major shift which could rock-the-boat a bit too much and cause them to go back to Windows for the “just works” experience.

    Djtecha ,

    Look, I just finally tried steam on Linux and the game booted up. I am absolutely amazed as I thought I’d never see that day. Also windows is somehow just getting worse and worse. It’s like they just want an entire ad platform. They lost me at this point. I have 0 need for any ms products again and that’s a great feeling.

    frostinger , (edited )

    but WHY is it necessary??

    Honytawk ,

    But which distro though?

    skulkingaround ,

    I know that phrase is the most beaten dead horse around at this point but the year of the Linux desktop is going to be different depending on what your requirements are.

    If you just need to browse the web, it’s been there for over a decade. Same for most dev work.

    For gaming, it’s already there for most titles. Pretty much everything I try works now unless it has anticheat. It’s been in a pretty good state for 2 or 3 years now at least.

    For media creation and specialized software, it’s not there yet. The big stuff like adobe will probably never get ported and the free alternatives vary wildly in quality. Blender is awesome. GIMP is not. There’s also issues like lacking color management and iffy HDR support.

    Matombo ,

    yes he did and if it doesn’t happen we can shame him for all eternety, but i’m right with you there buddy: 2024 lets gooooooo!

    sederx ,

    it already is irrelevant for many people

    baked_tea ,

    For gamers-only maybe lmao

    E: and people willing to spend several hours a month wondering why their OS broke again

    Johanno ,

    If you don’t tinker like the usual Linux user your os won’t break more often than windows

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  • Johanno ,

    As I said, not more often than windows

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  • Sheeple ,
    @Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah people often forget the sheer amount of quality checks and testing that windows updates go through. Sure it might do annoying things like changing your default browser but it never truly breaks.

    There’s also the fact that Windows native antivirus is so good that installing antivirus software is actually a downgrade. On Linux meanwhile you gotta run third party antivirus.

    Johanno ,

    In my experience windows just breaks as often. Depending on hardware and software used.

    Yes it might be better for windows 11 I haven’t run that yet. And windows 10 almost never broke either so it is maybe better now

    baked_tea ,

    It literally almost never happens for windows yet Linux is generally most famous by this one thing

    Johanno ,

    It should not happen if you use debian, Ubuntu or Mint stable. As long you don’t do anything exotic it should not break, at not since 2018.

    And if it breaks remember you compare free software made by volunteers (and paid employees from companies) with much less money and they still manage to compete with the multi billion dollar company Microsoft.

    baked_tea ,
    1. It was on Ubuntu Debian
    2. Is exactly what I’m trying to say… this is why Linux will not be ever better unless it is an actual product that can have real money poured into it. Except they don’t really “manage to compete”. Unless you count 1vs99 as non-laughable competition. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to use something else but as of right now, nothing can really compare with stability and being “plug and play”
    Djtecha ,

    Windows updates break my clock… Idk about this claim that it doesn’t break stuff.

    baked_tea ,

    This comment is a prime example of a drowning man trying to pull up by the straw

    Djtecha ,

    I don’t follow… And that’s not an actual expression

    Djtecha ,

    If you stick to Ubuntu you usually don’t have that problem IMHO.

    psud ,

    Hmm. My partner’s Linux machine is perfectly stable and has been for a decade. I administer it for them, but that’s just running updates and distribution upgrades every now and then

    My server takes more effort, as distribution upgrades sometimes break stuff, for example the mailing list manager I have used for a long time became deprecated and was disabled on the recent LTS upgrade

    My laptop running Ubuntu from the factory is perfectly fine, I’ll probably make it less stable by moving it to Debian

    Giooschi ,

    As long as many important games fall into that 10% many gamers won’t consider Linux.

    Not to mention Adobe/Office/CAD suites that will prevent others from switching.

    And finally most pcs are sold with windows preinstalled and the vast majority of people don’t even know that other OS even exist.

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    Also a lot of high end medical equipment. Some stuff will only work/communicate with Windows XP, even today, for instance.

    CouncilOfFriends , to technology in Google pulls the plug on uBlock Origin, leaving over 30 million Chrome users susceptible to intrusive ads

    It deserves mentioning that Firefox on Android supports extensions, so if you uninstall/disable the official YouTube app then add uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock you get a more tolerable experience.

    PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

    Can also use Vinegar (for YouTube) and Baking Soda (for basically every other site with videos) with Safari on iOS. It’s not a perfect solution, but it at least revamps Safari’s built-in video player so watching in the browser is actually tolerable.

    ondra5 ,

    You can also patch YouTube in a similar way as revanced on iOS, I use YTLitePlus. And for Adblock I use the Wipr extension and hush for blocking and auto rejecting cookie popups. No jailbreak needed.

    Joelk111 ,

    Or just use Revanced or Grayjay, both of which are ad free and support sponsor block. Revanced is still a bit more feature complete imo, but also more buggy on my device, and more of a hassle to update. The browser YouTube experience is so bad, ads or ad free.

    sturmblast , to technology in What is Windows 11 'AI Explorer'? Everything you need to know about Microsoft's upcoming defining AI PC feature (including it always watching you)

    Yep, that shit won’t be running on my computers.

    Chakravanti , (edited )

    *That won’t be acknowledged running on my computer.

    Correction. If you’re running any kind of closed source software AND haven’t disabled Intel ME (or PSP) Then this is the accurate reality shining on you illusion of reality.

    Also, get you a lap shade or that 10-dimensional…whatever is still racking your body, watching you out of every camera. Every.Camera.Everywhere

    Cypher ,

    Well… given every single Windows update has failed for the last few months for me it really won’t be running on my PC.

    I’m going to need to wipe the bloody thing soon though because of the security risks.

    Time to go back to Linux Mint I guess

    Chakravanti ,

    Qubes. Get a another laptop. Something old and cheap. X230 or better for some basic security tools in the chip. On that front though, learn to either disable Intel ME or cough up for someone else doing so. would recommend a Librem from Purism.

    If so, get a three year warranty. I don’t know about us lasting that long here but mine lasted two years before all the ports stopped working with USB going first. I sent it to them with a new NVMe and the sent me back a failure after asking me if they could wipe the drive and made me pay for the shipment. When I received it and told them about their failure, they paid for shipping the second time. Sent me someone that worked for another two years.

    I quit windows two decades ago. Didn’t get into comps and GNU/Linux for 5 more years. First thing i learned about comps when I built one was GNU/Linux.

    It’s not the software itself that I respect, but the philosophy of Richard Stallman. He is no less than our Messiah and he doesn’t make a single reference to a gorram thing that ain’t a tangible security concept he manifests into what makes sense.

    Like I’ll ever “trust” someone I don’t know let alone some pedophiliac thief’s OS that someone wrote and even he don’t know. Despite claiming anything about its function.

    phoenixz ,

    Try KDE Neon

    Aielman15 , to games in Microsoft Xbox Rewards app is being shut down from December
    @Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

    Rewards is being moved from its own app to the Xbox app. Everything will keep working as usual.

    Agent641 , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

    Does Linux let you disable its system-embedded advertisements? Didn’t think so!

    ItsMeSpez ,

    I just wish it would stop showing me ads for Linus’ Only Fans. Like, I already subbed, please go away.

    BrownianMotion ,
    @BrownianMotion@lemmy.world avatar

    It does.

    sudo pro config set apt_news=false and sudo truncate -s0 /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20apt-esm-hook.conf

    But I feel sorry for you if you are still using Ubuntu at this point.

    phoenixz ,

    Why?

    elbarto777 ,

    Which flavor?

    Justice , to technology in Microsoft accidentally leaks internal tool that can enable hidden Windows 11 features
    @Justice@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Jesus Christ, just reading about Microsoft developing something called Moments made me nope out of that article.

    Obv there’s worse things in this world, but goddamn it if Microsoft isn’t reclaiming its crown slowly. I think people forget/zoomers never knew, but Microsoft was once, rightly, one of the most hated corporations on earth. They were taken to court, in the United States!, for monopolistic practices. You gotta be doing some insaaaaane shit to get hit with that type of case in the US post-Reagan administration.

    Microsoft’s name was basically equivalent to dogshit from the mid-90s until maybe the mid 2000s. Maybe 2010? Hard to put a finger on it. Windows 7 certainly did a lot to get people to calm down from a steady hate-boner.

    I just wish, I fucking WISH, that if MS is gonna do this weird “make your pc your phone too! Dur hrr!” shit that they’d offer a Windows Lite ™️ edition where you can opt out of the little stupid assistant thing. No, Clippy, I don’t need help, fuck you very much. Let me opt out completely, without having to fuck with reg editor and CLI, from all types of ads, tracking, “offers for free shit,” all that shit. Just provide a barebones OS, let me add the programs I want, stop popping up telling me the .exe is a trojan sent to murder my dog just because you want me to download shit from your precious proprietary store, just stop all that shit. Something akin to Windows XP or Windows 7 type era. Neither OS was perfect and certainly many features in modern OSes are nice, but the simplicity found in them just because at the time they kind of HAD to be simple in order to function, is something I’d love for MS (and Apple too for that matter) to embrace.

    But since none of that will happen, the next best thing I can hope is developers start making more and more programs run natively on Linux distro. Linux has come very far in my lifetime and I’m honestly excited that I can now use Linux basically for everything and only keep Windows installed as dual boot for a few specific tasks. I just hope it keeps growing in coming years. Hopefully demand from gamers for the steam deck and such drives more and more support for Linux. I can you one thing though… if my Windows updated and tells me “set up Moments! Click here!” I’m nuking that shit from orbit immediately. I don’t care what it does, I will never use any of that shit Microsoft packs into Windows. Probably sounds grump old man or whatever, but I just refuse. Stop adding dogshit no one asked for! This goes for basically all devs! Rant over, but I’m still pissed!

    rm_dash_r_star ,
    @rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee avatar

    Microsoft’s name was basically equivalent to dogshit from the mid-90s until maybe the mid 2000s.

    I’m old enough to remember well the Microsoft hate. It’s not so much they’ve changed their ways, but Google has now taken the trident and diverted attention away from them.

    Shadywack ,
    @Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes, this right here. It’s really the same ol shitty Micro-fuck, Google just wanted to be king of the shit-mound for the most morally and ethically bankrupt corporation of this age. [edit] Google and Facebook are just vying for the crown of “biggest asshole corporation in the world”

    cmbabul ,

    Fuck all three but at least Google and Microsoft provide something I can potentially get some use out of, although I’m with you and plan to be 100% Linux in a few years

    SeenSeanBeanBorn ,

    When choosing my last phone it was a case of “which is the least shitty of my options to share all my data with”

    GigglyBobble ,

    if my Windows updated and tells me “set up Moments! Click here!” I’m nuking that shit from orbit immediately.

    Why wait? You seem to be fed up already. Reconsider the importance of those specific cases. I haven't missed anything really after moving to Linux full-time. Forced to use Windows at work and that's a daily reminder how bad it really has become.

    Justice ,
    @Justice@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    I do use it use linux for most things and especially for light usage such as web browsing/chatting. Many games also work now thanks for new interest due to the steam deck, which is cool. Gone are the days, it seems, where you gotta read 14 forum pages on why your specific distro won’t boot this specific game. It’s honestly in the hands of the software devs at this point though. They gotta break from the standard for the last 20 or so years of catering only to Windows. I’m hoping the steam deck pushes more teams to embrace the Linux world. I’d also love for Valve to officially release a standalone desktop version of steamOS (or whatever their name is for their distro). I know people have kinda made hacky versions, but an officially supported version with real support for stuff like nvidia drivers (which is another thing… nvidia needs to get away from that shit) would be very cool and would certainly push other companies outside the steam universe to get on board too. It just seems like a matter of time thing now which is certainly better than “this will never happen” that it felt like a decade ago

    knobbysideup ,

    At least you have wsl now. M$'s late to the party attempt to EEE.

    veng ,

    This is the saving grace for so many people who are forced to use windows at work - I can do terminal stuff locally now which is great. Slow when working with windows directories (outside of WSL) but still great.

    knobbysideup ,

    Other than games, run windows in virtualbox or with kvm if absolutely necessary while using Linux for everything else.

    Filipdaflippa ,

    Sounds like windows isn’t for you so why are you using it lmfao fucking Americans and their mental health issues 😭

    darganon ,

    You gotta be doing some insaaaaane shit to get hit with that type of case in the US post-Reagan administration.

    Yeah, they bundled a web browser with their operating system! Insaaaaaane!

    ulkesh , to technology in A PR disaster: Microsoft has lost trust with its users, and Windows Recall is the straw that broke the camel's back
    @ulkesh@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m telling everyone I know it’s time to move to Linux, or worst case Mac.

    FiniteBanjo ,

    Mac is not better in any circumstance. Except maybe power efficiency but I doubt that’s going to last for long.

    TheFeatureCreature ,
    @TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world avatar

    MacOS is a highly mature, stable, and user-friendly OS that, at least for now, Apple does not meddle with in the same ways that MS has been doing with Windows. It has its problems, yes, but to say “any circumstance” is extreme. I don’t like or agree with everything that Apple has done to MacOS but at least Apple isn’t actively trashing it into the ground with forced bloat, ads, malware, etc like MS is doing.

    kayazere ,

    They are definitely are starting to trash it with ads for their own services, user hostile behavior/dark patterns (try turning off Bluetooth and applying a software update, it will be magically back on), and have ruined the UI slowly turning it in to iOS.

    ulkesh ,
    @ulkesh@lemmy.world avatar

    I have used a Mac since 2007 (almost exclusively for work) and many of Apple’s services during that time. I have not experienced any ads as you describe. As for Bluetooth magically turning back on after a software update, of course I do not know for certain, but that screams incompetence more than it screams intent. Apple most definitely has problems (where they build their hardware, policies they tried to enact and then backtracked, etc). And I’m not advocating for them like I am for Linux and other open source solutions. But if a normal user doesn’t want to deal with some of the lingering complexities that Linux still has (which is a dwindling number), then a Mac is a relatively viable alternative and it does not come anywhere near as close to the privacy nightmare that Microsoft has become.

    I am not tribal at all with respect to any of these entities. I have used all three OSes for the better part of 25 years. I have watched the ebbs and flows of Microsoft, Apple, Adobe, Canonical, Red Hat, and various FOSS solutions such as Linux, for a very long time. And I have had a front row seat seeing Apple’s mistakes, Microsoft’s mistakes, Canonical’s mistakes, and so forth. And I feel I can judge with some semblance of realism and objectivity – Microsoft has failed so hard with Recall and they are so out of touch with what users want, they deserve every bit of ire they are getting, and they deserve to have their market share diminish because of it. Aside from perhaps Google, and now Adobe, I haven’t seen a technology company be so blatantly and willfully aggressive (and one could say, stupid) when it comes to these actions and topics.

    kayazere ,

    The Bluetooth issue also happens on iOS, so I think it is an explicit choice, as Apple wants as many devices contributing to their Find My Network. It’s also the reason they changed control center on iOS to no longer turn off Wifi and Bluetooth, but to disconnect the current connections.

    ulkesh ,
    @ulkesh@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve not run into this, but I also use Bluetooth on both devices (my work Mac and my personal phone) so it’s usually enabled. I also rely on Find My capabilities, so I suppose I’m their target audience. However, if they are purposefully re-enabling even after a user explicitly disables, then I agree completely that that is anti-user/anti-consumer/anti-privacy and they should be brought to task for it.

    FiniteBanjo ,

    Lmao nice

    You might want to add the /s tho, some people might not get it.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    I’m telling everyone I know

    Vegan, European, CrossFit, Linux, born again

    aBundleOfFerrets ,

    Seeing “European” is all you need to know this is rage bait

    SkyeStarfall ,

    How many times do people need to get fucked over by privatized black box software before they realize that FOSS has a point?

    ulkesh ,
    @ulkesh@lemmy.world avatar

    Just like people who are beholden to their politics or their religion, they’ll get fucked over as often as possible until they’re dead. The majority of people are tribal and sadly they see Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc as some kind of extension of their tribal identity.

    ulkesh ,
    @ulkesh@lemmy.world avatar

    Helping people to prevent their privacy from being completely screwed isn’t the same as feeling superior and smug about one’s choices, lifestyle, or where one lives. The sooner people understand the difference, the better.

    But sure.

    I also use Arch, btw…got any “witty” response to it?

    secretlyaddictedtolinux ,

    I don’t know what this post means… but I want to learn.

    Are you Vegan and moved to Europe and now do CrossFit?

    That actually sounds like fun.

    Especially the linux part.

    Did you flee from a country that was awful and move to somewhere in Europe?

    secretlyaddictedtolinux ,

    I have down-voted this because in a worst case scenario, they should move to a less appealing version of Linux, like Arch

    (waiting for my down-votes)

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