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BlackRoseAmongThorns , to world in IDF: Efrat Katz was likely killed by IAF helicopter fire during abduction by Hamas terrorists on Oct. 7

cough cough Hannibal Directive

qevlarr ,
@qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

For those who don’t know: The Hannibal directive was official policy of Israel to stop abductions of Israeli soldiers by all means necessary, including the death of the (Israeli) hostage. Often summarized as “rather dead than abducted”. The name was chosen randomly. Israel claims they no longer use this policy, but this is disputed.

BlackRoseAmongThorns ,

Also, an identical directive was given the morning of October 7th 2023.

qevlarr ,
@qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

Source?

BlackRoseAmongThorns ,

www.ynet.co.il/news/article/yokra13754368

This is in Hebrew because this is what i read at the time, you’d have to look up another article in English yourself if you want to.

qevlarr ,
@qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you. It’s difficult to find English language sources on this. Everywhere there’s misinformation and wild speculation passing as fact.

BlackRoseAmongThorns ,

That’s weird considering how much of it was documented, maybe it’s different for me because I live in this godforsaken place and news have to reach me one way or the other.

wildbus8979 , to world in IDF: Efrat Katz was likely killed by IAF helicopter fire during abduction by Hamas terrorists on Oct. 7
Buelldozer , to world in US says Israeli banks don’t have to close accounts of sanctioned settlers
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

Odd that this article omits what Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich threatened to do if the US didn’t play ball.

middleeasteye.net/…/israel-may-cut-off-palestinia…

This wasn’t Biden or the US simply rolling over on demand, this was a choice made to prevent a maniac from doing something worse.

US - Israeli relations are deteriorating so fast that I wouldn’t be surprised to see a total split before the end of the year.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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Don’t negotiate with israeli Terrroists.

apfelwoiSchoppen ,
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Too late, we gave them nukes.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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They’ve had nukes since the last century. Even the republican war monger Bush stopped israel during it.

Without American weapons israel is completely donezo.

Buelldozer ,
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Without American weapons israel is completely donezo.

Nope, they’ll transition to Russia or China as their primary defense partner. Some people argue that it’s already happening.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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Those countries are allied with Iran though. Their recent votes and anti israel language at the UN signals the exact opposite. China and Russia are moving away from israel.

apfelwoiSchoppen , (edited )
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Yes, the nukes we gave them decades ago. They’ve also been genociding Palestinians before they had nukes.

Buelldozer ,
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Sure but then the headline reads the other way “Biden Administration allows Israeli Government to cut Palestine off from banking, destroying their economy.”

I mean ideally Uncle Sam would put his size 14 boot on Israel’s neck and tell them to knock it the fuck off, but that’s very difficult to do when it comes to sovereign matters like how they run their banking system internally. Plus it then spins out another half dozen headlines that look terrible.

In this case I think that the Biden Administration made the correct choice, as bad as it was.

Linkerbaan OP , (edited )
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Can israel blackmail America? Do they hold the leverage? In the words of another war criminal:

In 1996, Bill Clinton remarked privately after his first meeting with Bibi

“Who the fuck does he think he is? Who’s the fucking superpower here?

dlatch , to world in US says Israeli banks don’t have to close accounts of sanctioned settlers

In response, the far-right lawmaker threatened to take steps in his capacity as head of the treasury that would significantly impede the Palestinian economy

This is just fucking evil. The US sanctioning Israel? Just take it out on the Palestinians.

goferking0 ,

Says it all that we’re more worried about their economy than the people.

Linkerbaan OP , to world in US says Israeli banks don’t have to close accounts of sanctioned settlers
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When the israeli minister starts wagging his finger Biden stops wagging his finger real quick.

Altofaltception ,

Remember when we thought the last President was compromised?

Turns out this one is too, but with a different master.

goferking0 ,

Don’t think he’s compromised, it’s just a love of their dream/zionism

Zehzin , (edited )
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Those downvotes are confusing. Biden has very openly talked about being a Zionist and how much that matters to him both recently and throughout his political life.

Are people just now realizing that’s a red flag but haven’t connected the dots ?

goferking0 ,

People don’t like when it gets pointed out or when people are critical of Biden

Linkerbaan OP , (edited )
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

I just looked up the latest AIPAC round.

And Biden already received 1.5M for being a brave loyalist dog to the israeli regime.

Also they spent 1.5M on Nikki Haley and just 100k on Trump so far.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4da5e91d-0814-4c99-8628-492de81e0e44.png

Especially the excess spending on Haley instead of Trump is a bit weird to me

tygerprints , to world in Settler leader calls for military action in West Bank 'with the same force as we're using in Gaza'

Settler leader should be stoned and beheaded for licking Nazi buttholes and savoring the taste. Israel has become worse than Nazi germany at its most utterly grotesque.

TropicalDingdong , to worldnews in US tells Israel it need not close bank accounts of sanctioned settlers

Man Biden just really doesn’t fucking want to win this election does he?

Is he hoping the whole Palestine thing will blow over if the Palestinians are all, you know, are dead?

Like we can’t afford and won’t survive Trump again. He needs to get his shit together on this.

Corkyskog ,

Old men make bad weathermen.

You would think life experience would make them better at reading the clouds, but it seems to just further implant them in their ingrained beliefs, probably because they are usually surrounded by peers of the same age. Biden is lucky he was forced to work with some of his youngers, otherwise he would be blundering through this worse than he is.

Omega_Haxors ,

When both sides support genocide I don’t think it deserves to survive.

givesomefucks , to worldnews in US tells Israel it need not close bank accounts of sanctioned settlers

It was already meaningless. But this is what Israel demanded, so Biden was always going to agree to it.

Sanctions matter when they’re applied to those in power, or if you don’t care about civilians an entire geographic area…

Israel is about to isolate all of Palestine from international banking btw. They said they wouldn’t if these meaningless sanctions weren’t cancelled, but they know there’s no repercussions from going back on their word when they own both our political parties.

The Palestinian economy is based on the Israeli currency, the shekel, making it reliant on ties to Israel and its financial dealings with the rest of the world must go through the Bank of Israel and Israeli banks.

Earlier this month, the far-right minister Smotrich threatened to paralyse the Palestinian Authority’s economy in response to the United States imposing sanctions on four West Bank extremist settlers accused of violence against Palestinians.

middleeasteye.net/…/israel-may-cut-off-palestinia…

YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH , to world in Settler leader calls for military action in West Bank 'with the same force as we're using in Gaza'

Settler leader should be brought before The Hague.

Linkerbaan , to world in Settler leader calls for military action in West Bank 'with the same force as we're using in Gaza'
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They can do it now. Everyone knows that this isn’t about Hamas anymore. And Zionists now know Biden will continue to support their Genocide unconditionally anyways.

BertramDitore , to world in Settler leader calls for military action in West Bank 'with the same force as we're using in Gaza'
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For those not familiar with the geography of the area, the West Bank is significantly larger than the Gaza Strip, and it is not a contiguous region. It is made up of Palestinian villages and cities separated by illegal Israeli settlements that were purposely placed in and between the Palestinian land to minimize the ability of Palestinians to control themselves and their security.

A large-scale attack in the West Bank at the level of the genocide in Gaza would be absolutely catastrophic for every single person living in the region. It would be devastating and unforgivable. Which I’m sure is the point.

roastedDeflator , to world in Settler leader calls for military action in West Bank 'with the same force as we're using in Gaza'

Archive link for those that don't want to visit this outlet.

Burn_The_Right , to news in Blinken says all of Gaza facing unprecedented food insecurity

We talk as if we care about a vulnerable group while simultanously facilitating their misery and death. It’s almost like we are full of shit.

Um… Are we the baddies?

queermunist , to worldnews in Blinken says all of Gaza facing unprecedented food insecurity
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And who’s fault is that Blinken? 🤔

SkyezOpen ,

Hamas, obviously

/s

Fizz , to worldnews in Blinken says all of Gaza facing unprecedented food insecurity
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What does acute food insecurity mean? Is that starvation.

Linkerbaan OP , (edited )
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Fizz ,
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After reading the report the situation is not a bad as I thought. I heard somewhere all the food trucks were being blocked and the only food that was coming in was being dropped via air.

filister ,

I wonder how you would feel if you, your wife and your kids were all starving and you were failing to provide enough food for them on the table.

Or think of all those parents with newborn babies forced to live in makeshift tents in unsanitary conditions without access to even basic medicine, or pre-milk. I am sure their child mortality rate has skyrocketed.

And guess where there were 100% acute malnutrition. Concentration camps! It seems we have learned nothing from the history books and still in the 21st century we allow this to happen.

Fizz ,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

My comment only states that I thought the conditions were worse. Nowhere do I say the conditions aren’t extremely dire or bad. Ive read news that food trucks are being stopped for weeks and weeks i thought food had run out a long time ago. My feelings in that situation are irrelevant.

Keeponstalin ,
Fizz ,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

They’re getting barely a fith of the aid they were pre Oct 7 and it’s not like they were eating good before. I’m surprised the starvation deaths aren’t in the 10s of thousands

Keeponstalin , (edited )

It very well might be soon unless Israel is stopped. The water crisis is even worse.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/930e51de-5151-4804-84d0-de20c3951628.jpeg

Fizz ,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

That’s insane, especially in a place like gaza.

Keeponstalin ,

It’s been a deliberate part of the occupation since 1967. You can learn more at B’TSelem

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