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partial_accumen , (edited ) to world in Netanyahu reportedly slams cabinet meeting leaks, seeks polygraphs for attendees

Their polygraphs, which science has debunked as being inaccurate! The horror!

Has he also released the attendees…

  • Horoscopes
  • Phrenology results
  • Palm readings
  • Personal breakdown of each of their four humours
  • Galaga high scores
  • Yu-Gi-Oh trap cards

What other critical measure am I missing? Help me out people!

AdamBomb , to worldnews in As soldier with fungal infection dies, fears grow of Gaza diseases spreading into Israel

Well well well, if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions.

ninjan , to world in Hamas leader Sinwar said to narrowly evade capture by IDF two separate times

Isn’t it better for the IDF/Israel if they don’t catch him since hunting him down is just about the only justifiable part of this whole war? If they catch him the pressure to stop the war will just increase, but if he’s still out there they can use that as a reason to continue their genocide.

How short would the war in Afganistan be if the US didn’t bomb everything to shit in the opening months and instead gathered Intel and sent in a special forces unit to take Bin Laden down? But if they did that then how would the Military Industrial Complex get their billions.

I know I’m being a bit of a conspiracy nut now but it’s just too convenient, isn’t it?

Rapidcreek OP ,

Capturing an/or killing him will be seen as a conclusion to the matter.

dlatch ,

And Santa Claus is real!

Keeponstalin ,
masquenox , to news in IDF appears to push back on ‘irresponsible’ US claim Hamas refusing to release raped hostages

Sooo… the people literally perpetrating genocide is telling their US benefactors to dial back the hysterical propaganda.

This belongs on !nottheonion.

cogman , to news in IDF appears to push back on ‘irresponsible’ US claim Hamas refusing to release raped hostages

The whole rape narrative is just a way to push local politicians into unquestioning support of Israel. A way to dehumanize Palestinians by painting with a broad brush. Ironically these “left leaning” outlets pushing this narrative are doing EXACTLY what Trump did by calling Mexicans murderers and rapists.

SeaJ , to world in Family says Yuval Castleman, killed after taking out terrorists, was ‘executed’

Two things:

  • Clearly this is a war crime.
  • The good guy with a gun often looks like a bad guy with a gun and can easily be shot by state forces.
Silverseren OP ,

Yes, but he had already thrown his weapon away and had his hands in the air surrendering. We shouldn't be killing all bad guys once they've surrendered either.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Slight correction on your second point:

  • The good guy with a gun, even without possessing the gun, and verbally surrendering while on their knees with their arms above head begging for their life can easily be shot by state forces.

Let’s not make it seem like this was a little “oopsy woopsy I couldn’t tell he wasn’t a terrorist” situation.

Stamau123 OP , to world in US tells Israel it will announce visa ban on violent settlers in coming weeks — officials

@altofaltception this is partly what I had envisioned, more eyes on recent settler violence due to the war leading to pressure to hopefully have them dealt with permanently.

AI_toothbrush , to news in Surveillance footage shows Hamas bringing hostages into Shifa Hospital on Oct. 7

Pigs. Still not a reason to bomb hospitals. Wait if they bomb the hospital they kill the hostages.

Rapidcreek OP ,

Nobody bombed the hospital itself.

AI_toothbrush ,

According to the un there were more than 130 attacks on healthcare services by isreal in gaza…

Rapidcreek OP ,

First thing is, we’ve just witnessed how truthful they are.

Rapidcreek OP , to news in Surveillance footage shows Hamas bringing hostages into Shifa Hospital on Oct. 7

Does this mean the hospital was complicit in the abduction of Israeli hostages from October 7th? If this is true, my god some people have some questions to answer.

SCB ,

Hospital administrators don’t get to say “no” to Hamas.

Rapidcreek OP ,

I bel8eve the WHO runs the hospital. The WHO is part of the UN. Are we going to expect the UN to take hostages now?

SCB ,

The people on the ground at the hospital did not take hostages. Hamas did, and uses the hospital as a base. No one involved in the running of the hospital gets a say in what Hamas does.

They are both the government and murderous terrorists, so whatever they wanna do, they’re gonna do

Rapidcreek OP ,

I can imagine that some of the complicity started with benign motives. You’re an NGO wanting to do good things for the people of Gaza? You learn and obey Hamas rules. But since you don’t want to admit that you are obeying Hamas rules - you get drawn into endorsing Hamas lies. Nonetheless, by not saying anything about the hostages for a month you are complicate in their capture and your organization is as well.

Then there are those that doubt the veracity of Israeli and US Intelligence saying that the hospital was a control point. Of course it was, and those that watched Hamas walk into the door knew it.

SCB ,

If a terrorist is holding hostages near you and the terrorist says if you tell anyone about it they’ll kill you, or the hostages, then you are also being held hostage, you can just move around more than the other hostages.

Rapidcreek OP ,

Sure fear can play a role, but there was more than compliance to Hamas. They told the press, some of who knew better, that they never seen Hamas or hostages. They took an active role.

RogueBanana ,

Quite easy to criticize when you don’t have a gun against your own or others head. Put yourself in someone’s shoe before you criticize them.

Rapidcreek OP ,

They could have chosen not t9 say anything you know.

RogueBanana ,

Proving my point, easy to criticize when its someone else

Rapidcreek OP ,

I really think the reason they did it is a minor issue. That they did it should be the point of focus.

chunkystyles ,

You know, the other day I was in the hospital and there was a visibly pregnant woman outside who was smoking. I went up to the front desk and demanded to know why the hospital was condoning that behavior. The person at the desk reacted in complete confusion. So I continued on, asking why the multinational conglomerate that owned the hospital was requiring pregnant mothers to smoke. As I was being escorted out by security, the smoking woman was gone, but they all knew who I was talking about.

Zippit ,

Yes, let’s attack the ONLY humanitarian agency that tries to do some good so their shitty opinions of Israel’s behaviour towards Palestinian civilians, patients, journalists and aid workers isn’t so highlighted in the world press anymore.

God, how stupid do you think people are?

Rapidcreek OP ,

Pretty damn stupid and this post proves it.

Zippit ,

Oh shut up with your insinuations. If a guy with a gun tells you to treat someone, you do it. As if Palestinians have gotten another choice by Israeli governance. You act as if these people were free before the attacks lol. As if they were living in the land of milk and honey, as if their opinions mattered…

Rapidcreek OP , (edited )

Oh you almost got there…it is the Israelis fault that Hamas was using the hospital as cover and the doctors went along with it, right?

_MoveSwiftly , to world in Qatar works for release of 10-15 hostages in exchange for pause in fighting

How? Netanyahu already stated refusal of any pause unless ALL hostages are cleared.

TokenBoomer OP ,

It’s ongoing. Hamas is offering to release Americans. If Netanyahu refuses, it makes America look weak. If he agrees, it makes him look weak.

BombOmOm ,
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

As long as Hamas still has any hostages and is talking about how Israel/Jews must be eliminated (good luck changing their minds!), nobody will look weak.

While the characterization isn’t entirely true, the generally accepted policy is to kill terrorists, not give them concessions after murdering and kidnapping people.

nonailsleft ,

Yes, in movies that’s certainly the general policy

Hobbes , to world in IDF: Troops destroyed 130 Hamas tunnel shafts in Gaza since start of ground op

That’s great. And how many civilians “got in the way?”

5BC2E7 , to world in Jewish man succumbs to wounds day after altercation at pro-Palestinian protest in LA

I hope the president does something before the pogroms start.

zerfuffle , to worldnews in Blinken says ‘shocking’ that brutality of Hamas massacres has receded in memories of many

Is it only brutal because Hamas can’t hide behind “oh it was just a bomb oopsie how did it strike a civilian?”

Rapidcreek , to news in Hamas tried to send fighters to Egypt in ambulances for wounded Gazans — US official

It’s truly bizarre how the world holds Israel to an imposssible ethical standard, while Hamas may be the least ethical organization on the planet and people are cool with that.

Ryan213 ,
@Ryan213@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t kill children.

Israel: impossible!

Rapidcreek ,

If dead Palestinian Gazan babies upset you more than dead Jewish babies, Arab Druze Babies, Muslim Bedouin Babies, Ethiopian Falasha Babies, African Guest Worker babies … all of whom HAMAS executed by hand on 10-7. Reevaluate your life.

I respect peace activists who march to stop ALL deaths of children.

poo ,
@poo@lemmy.world avatar

You’re such a troll. Grow up.

Rapidcreek ,

Sorry if the truth hurts

eee OP ,

I think it’s just lemmy. I’ve been browsing reddit more because sadly lemmy seems to have a rather extreme pro-Palestine bias, whereas reddit has a slight pro-Israel bias.

AI_toothbrush ,

Im not cool with hamas. Its a shitty terrorist group. But so is israels military.

curiousaur , to world in Norway says Israel response to Hamas attack disproportionate

Disproportionate is the best way to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

dangblingus ,

Also could be how you radicalize future generations against you.

curiousaur ,

That’s why is pragmatic to leave none left. Not saying it’s good or right, just that from a pure strategy standpoint it makes sense what they’re doing.

spirinolas ,

Are you actually defending this?..

curiousaur ,

Just saying it’s pragmatic given the various parties goals.

This whole thing is horrible, and has been horrible for a long time. It’s clear now peaceful coexisting is not an option. Only one of these two has the ability to permanently end the conflict.

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