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Threeme2189 , to world in Inside a Gaza bedroom, soldiers searching for tunnels find how low Hamas can go

Downvoted because it doesn’t fit the Israeli-apartheid-Hamas-freedom-fighters narrative. Good job lemmy…

CharlesMangione ,

I downvoted it for being an obviously biased propaganda piece.

Threeme2189 ,

How is it biased propaganda exactly? This is one of many examples I’ve seen throughout the last two weeks. It’s not an isolated incident by any means.

CharlesMangione ,

… did you read it?

Annoyed_Crabby , to world in Inside a Gaza bedroom, soldiers searching for tunnels find how low Hamas can go

The IDF has indicated it does not have plans to engage in tunnel warfare, as the passages are likely to be booby-trapped. Instead, it is demolishing the tunnels as they are being found.

Ahh, i thought the ground invasion is about saving hostage…

Gazumi , to world in Inside a Gaza bedroom, soldiers searching for tunnels find how low Hamas can go

I suspect that Times of Isreal carefully select what is shown, skewing perception. Even so, how far would we each need to be pushed before fighting back or supporting the fight back?

WidowsFavoriteSon ,

Israel is fighting for its life. You’re not going to see a lot of half measures. Because of its stance that Israel should not exist, if Hamas wins there will be no Israel. However, Israel has never taken the position that a Palestinian state should not exist and has tried on multiple occaisons to help create one.

DougHolland ,
@DougHolland@lemmy.world avatar

Israel is fighting for its life.

What hogwash. As if Hamas presents an actual threat to Israel’s existence?

Lophostemon , to world in Inside a Gaza bedroom, soldiers searching for tunnels find how low Hamas can go

Look at that funny little soldier. I woulda thought he’d be too small to be in teh army.

steventhedev , to world in Inside a Gaza bedroom, soldiers searching for tunnels find how low Hamas can go

Channel 12 sent one of their primetime anchors into Gaza. 3 minutes into the video he walks through a biology classroom, steps outside a door and shows the munitions depot in the room nextdoor. No need to understand Arabic or Hebrew.

These aren’t isolated incidents, although I’m sure they were chosen to be highlighted because they’re the clearest cut ones. Like the rocket launchers in the youth center.

wurzelgummidge ,

Channel 12 sent one of their primetime anchors

Not an independent journalist then?

steventhedev ,

CNN also embedded a journalist.

So did Times of Israel.

There are likely more, so perhaps if you’d care to share what you mean by independent it will help

WidowsFavoriteSon , to world in Inside a Gaza bedroom, soldiers searching for tunnels find how low Hamas can go

Love how this is getting downvoated because it doesn’t support the Hamas terrorists’ propaganda.

ninjan ,

I hate Hamas but this is just rage bait made to make you completely dehumanize the enemy, to make you OK with all the civilian Palestinian deaths in this war. It has no place in a news oriented community.

dumdum666 ,

What are you talking about? How is this article rage bait? How would the article have to be different in your opinion?

They pretty calmly explained where they found tunnels and what they found in them.

ninjan ,

First the headline is

“[…] find how low Hamas can go”

And it’s not referring to the depth of the tunnel. From the get go it’s framing the “news” as evidence of Hamas being evil. Something we need no proof of after the countless atrocities they’ve committed, so the purpose, intended or otherwise is something else.

Then:

“Combat Engineering Corps’ 614th Battalion as they carried out a second round of sweeps in a single-family home — with an outdoor swimming pool — in an upscale beachside neighborhood.”

Pointing out the swimming pool which is not necessary at all is text book to make your enemy seem amoral.

“soldiers had found a portal to where monsters were hiding.”

Cute comparison to monsters under the bed or just a convenient way to get away with calling them monsters outright? Which while it holds true is not some objective fact that needs stating and is indisputably dehumanizing.

“It’s not ethical, the way that Hamas works,”

No shit Sherlock, we’re talking about terrorists with more than 1000 civilians dead in just one attack. But here he’s talking about hiding a tunnel in a kids room. Hardly the worst of their crimes. It’s just to drum up feelings.

“With tendrils of underground fortifications running beneath crowded residential neighborhoods, the army says it has little choice but to bring the fight to the homes, hospitals, schools and clinics believed to shield the network.”

Very overt way to say “it’s OK that we bomb civilians, we need to to fight Hamas!” It’s dangerous clearing tunnels yes, and it’s very risk free to just bomb the ever living shit out of every building “believed to shield the network”.

" “We scan thoroughly, and there is intelligence, and the intelligence is very good. And there are means by which we both locate and destroy [the tunnels],” Adoniram said."

Not good enough to see the Oct 7 attack come but good enough to target hospitals huh? I don’t really buy it.

“Many had fled south or were sheltering at schools or hospitals. By the UN’s estimate, some 1.5 million of Gaza’s population of over 2 million was internally displaced.”

The same schools and hospitals they then bomb, leading to the thousands of dead civilians.

"
He had heard tell of an incident in which civilians who approached troops to ask for water had been used as cover for gunmen to open fire at the soldiers "

Stuff like that needs to be precise, I don’t necessarily doubt it but why isn’t it confirmed fact but “had heard tell”? Why is it in the news? Why didn’t they ask the source to confirm it?

I hope that explains why I see it as rage bait.

DougHolland ,
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Just the headline is reason enough not to click.

SparkyTemper , to world in IDF: Troops destroyed 130 Hamas tunnel shafts in Gaza since start of ground op

Looks like the hamas bots buried this post.

quicksand , to world in Qatar works for release of 10-15 hostages in exchange for pause in fighting

I’m curious, what’s the value to Hamas of not releasing all hostages? Will that lead to even more relentless shelling since other countries know their people have been freed? Or what? I don’t know enough about this situation or war in general to understand.

mlg ,
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Hamas will release more hostages if their demands are met which mostly includes the release of Palestinian and Hamas associated prisoners in Israel.

Israel has no interest in negotiations or the hostages, hence why Hamas has barely been releasing any because their demands haven’t been met.

Qatar, hosting some Hamas leaders and/or affiliates, has been acting as third party to negotiate the few hostage releases so far in exchange for some very small demands.

_MoveSwiftly , to world in Qatar works for release of 10-15 hostages in exchange for pause in fighting

How? Netanyahu already stated refusal of any pause unless ALL hostages are cleared.

TokenBoomer OP ,

It’s ongoing. Hamas is offering to release Americans. If Netanyahu refuses, it makes America look weak. If he agrees, it makes him look weak.

BombOmOm ,
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As long as Hamas still has any hostages and is talking about how Israel/Jews must be eliminated (good luck changing their minds!), nobody will look weak.

While the characterization isn’t entirely true, the generally accepted policy is to kill terrorists, not give them concessions after murdering and kidnapping people.

nonailsleft ,

Yes, in movies that’s certainly the general policy

theacharnian , to world in Hamas slams UNRWA for ‘colluding’ with Israel in southward movement of Gazans
@theacharnian@lemmy.ca avatar

What those provocators think is irrelevant. Free Palestine, fuck Hamas.

TokenBoomer , to world in Hamas slams UNRWA for ‘colluding’ with Israel in southward movement of Gazans

Shortest article I’ve read today.

Hobbes , to world in IDF: Troops destroyed 130 Hamas tunnel shafts in Gaza since start of ground op

That’s great. And how many civilians “got in the way?”

zeusbottom , to worldnews in IDF soldiers film themselves abusing, humiliating West Bank Palestinians - Times of Israel

Yellow Stars of David will be handed out at the detainment camps; all inmates expected to wear them

5BC2E7 , to world in Jewish man succumbs to wounds day after altercation at pro-Palestinian protest in LA

I hope the president does something before the pogroms start.

demesisx , to worldnews in Hamas official says North Korea is ally. Insinuates it could one day target the US
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You don’t say?!?!? Of course we’re a target, sending billions in missiles and support to an illegal occupying force that is openly committed to the liquefaction of Muslim children.
Our main export is murder.

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