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IcePee , to technology in Promoted on TikTok, ‘No Thanks’ boycott app targets products tied to Israel

Slightly off topic, but wasn’t there a general purpose boycott app? One that allowed one to figure out the political stance behind products. Initially it was marketed as the anti-woke app, but further investigation showed that anti-woke was only one profile of many you could subscribe to.

andrewrgross ,

That’s cool. Do you have any details?

Anon518 ,
metasaval ,

tried the other posters buycott site, but the play store link leads to a “can’t find app” page. at least in America.

this app seems to be similar and is available. messing with it for a few minutes and it works. www.goodsuniteus.com

avidamoeba , to world in Israel, US said working to prevent ICC arrest warrant against Netanyahu
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Why though, it would be very beneficial for everyone to have someone thrown under the bus. Netanyahu would be perfect.

CaptainSpaceman , to news in Israel, US said working to prevent ICC arrest warrant against Netanyahu

Send him to the Hague!

Diabolo96 , to technology in Promoted on TikTok, ‘No Thanks’ boycott app targets products tied to Israel

The website you link being timesofisrael is a bit ironic. Great app nonetheless! If they’re writing about it then it’s working and is among the most probable reasons of the tiktok ban

technocrit ,

The campaign against TikTok isn’t so much ironic but more an organized campaign against journalism, free speech, truth, etc.

WamGams ,

Tik tok is not a journalism app. China does not have free speech, nor do they export it, and if what they are telling you is true, than let’s talk about the genocide of the Uyghurs.

ech ,

Yes, the legislation that’s been in discussion for years is because of this app released 5 months ago. That’s definitely how cause and effect works.

Diabolo96 , (edited )

Damn, so it’s been discussed for years but nothing happened. Israel commit atrocities (like always ) but unlike it’s other domestic media, the US government and some of its billionaires can’t censor, lie and push their narrative anymore, so the youth finally see the truth about the genocidal apartheid, ethno-state that is Israel. Now, they ban tiktok.

This is just another perspective you haven’t thought about, or don’t want to think about because of it’s morbid implications about your country (if you’re from USA)

andrewrgross ,

I don’t think they mean that tiktok is being banned over this app specifically: I just interpreted their comment to mean that tiktok has been an ongoing nuisance to the American mainstream political establishment.

andrewrgross ,

I find the Times of Israel to be a decent source. They’re obviously biased in favor of Israel, but it’s not behind a paywall and they’re far more informative than The NY Post, for instance. I think they seem less biased then the WSJ, frankly.

Overall, a useful insight into mainstream discourse in Israel with fairly accurate reporting.

Diabolo96 , (edited )

Okey, but let’s put it in another context. would you trust a British colonizer owned newspaper with its news articles exclusively being written by other white colonizers during the 80s Apartheid era south Africa ? Would you consider it to be a decent source of what’s happening in South Africa and what’s happening to the black population ? Heck, apartheid era south Africa wasn’t even an ethno-state and wasn’t doing a grand scale genocide. It’s more akin to a nazi Germany newspaper.

andrewrgross ,

Obviously not. But that’s true to some degree for all news sources. I don’t blindly trust any newspaper. I read Times of Israel through a lens of context, just like I do for the NY Times, The Guardian, The Intercept, etc.

I think it’s incredibly useful to see what a country reads about itself. Not only is that true even for countries engaged atrocities: it’s especially true for countries engaged in atrocities.

fluxion , to world in Israel, US said working to prevent ICC arrest warrant against Netanyahu

Stopping the genocide might help prospects

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

What’s done is done. If they’re complicit in direction of war crimes, they should hang.

Drusas ,

He still needs to be held accountable for what he's already done.

Riffz7 , to world in Israel, US said working to prevent ICC arrest warrant against Netanyahu

Nothing in the article says the US is doing anything. It just said Netanyahu is trying to convince the US to stop it

fawanen ,

To be fair, we all know the US is going to do everything in its power to protect zionists and their genocide.

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

According to reports in several Israeli media, the United States is part of a last-ditch diplomatic effort to prevent the International Criminal Court from issuing arrest warrants against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli officials.

The US, which, like Israel, is not among the 124 countries that signed the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, is already engaged in the effort to block the arrest warrants, according to Harel.

Riffz7 ,

According to reports in several Israeli media, the United States is part of a last-ditch diplomatic effort to prevent the International Criminal Court from issuing arrest warrants against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli officials.

I saw that and I wanted to know what exactly the role of Biden or any other whitehouse staff was so I read the rest of the article which said

Netanyahu is leading a “nonstop push over the telephone” to prevent an arrest warrant, focused especially on the administration of US President Joe Biden, Caspit writes.

So the entirety of the involvement according to this publication which says they are involved is that Netanyahu is calling “nonstop” to try to get them to intervene in an organization that they themselves haven’t signed on to? Sure sounds like a lot of involvement at this moment.

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The second paragraph I quoted does indicate that the US is currently actively involved

The US … is already engaged in the effort to block the arrest warrants, according to Harel.

FlashMobOfOne , to technology in Promoted on TikTok, ‘No Thanks’ boycott app targets products tied to Israel
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

I love this.

BDS all the fucking way.

febra , to technology in Promoted on TikTok, ‘No Thanks’ boycott app targets products tied to Israel

It’s a great app. I’ve been using it for some time now

Today , to technology in Promoted on TikTok, ‘No Thanks’ boycott app targets products tied to Israel

I tried at and found it a little misleading. If you click Barbie, the proof is a Variety article about Hollywood condemning Oct. 7. That was in the first 2 minutes of scrolling the list. Uninstalled. Gonna try BoycottX

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

I checked it, Paramount Studios publicly proclaimed as one of the very first that they stand with israel. So the boycott claim is completely valid.

They also donated 1 million dollars to israel and I cannot find anything about them donating to Palestine

Today ,

The articles about supporting Israel and donating are from October 12th. That’s not anti-palestinian, that’s anti-hamas.

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

It is pro israel and they are not showing any type of support for Palestinians. Their statement amounts to manufacturing consent for Genocide only.

This app shows products with ties to israel. Paramount studios clearly falls under that. If you don’t want to boycott israel that’s up to you.

x4740N , to technology in Promoted on TikTok, ‘No Thanks’ boycott app targets products tied to Israel
@x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

Is the app open source ?

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

I can’t find info on that so I am guessing at the moment it’s not. Though it seems to be more of a small volunteer project than a big group effort for now.

WamGams ,

Hint: if an aoo is collecting your data and tracking you, as this app does, it is not open source.

This implies they are selling your data to brokers.

fawanen ,

No it doesn’t.

WamGams ,

It doesn’t collect your data or it isn’t selling that data?

Another user on this very thread pointed out the specific trackers being used by the app. Unless that person is lying about them collecting the data, they will almost certainly be selling it.

That’s the thing about data collection: its a lot of money to store. How are they funding the operation unless turning you into the product?

fawanen ,

Look up specifically what Admob, Crashlytics, and Firebase analytics track.

That’s the thing about data collection: its a lot of money to store. How are they funding the operation unless turning you into the product?

Are you referring to data on users, or data on the products this app tracks? The app doesn’t need to store user data beyond what is required for it to function. Even if it stored such data, each user will only take up kilobytes to maybe a few megabytes because it’s just text data.

As for the data on the products, by far the largest files would be images. The rest is just text data.

Standard Google Cloud Storage is $0.20/GB per month. There’s no need for this app to store 16k+ photos, so the actual storage costs are negligible.

WamGams ,

Let’s hope you are right. I personally think an app of this nature should be fully open source.

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

It claims " no data collection" in the play store

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/701d8db2-f76e-4573-ad54-ce323f9d54bf.jpeg

WamGams ,

That is great.

But I also think leftists should not be downloading protest apps directly through google, because they have that data.

We need to better expose protest movements to things like fdroid and how to combat the surveillance they carry in their pocket.

Short termz the app seems like a good thing, but we need to move away from google play long term.

Artemis ,

Looks like it has Google AdMob, CrashLytics, and Firebase Analytics trackers…as well as FB Share according to Exodus. While I totally support the cause, this app is definitely tracking/profiting off of it’s users behind the scenes.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Sure, but is it open source?

fawanen ,

He doesn’t know but still wanted to feel useful.

Artemis ,

Day old account with tonnes of down votes and attacking people just trying to help…you are very clearly a troll. Also, I must be a guy since I’m commenting about tech? 🙄

fawanen ,

I’m guessing you have no idea what those technologies do.

Google Admob is literally for serving ads.

Crashlytics is for monitoring crashes.

Firebase analytics is for monitoring firebase usage, which is required for things like push notifications when using firebase.

Try uploading an app to the Google Play store yourself before you spread FUD on matters you know nothing about.

Artemis ,

I pointed out the trackers that are included in this app for full transparency…not everyone likes having Google and Facebook on their phone. The inclusion of these trackers also hint that the app isn’t open source, which was the initial question. I’m not sure any of this called for such an inflammatory response…

lunarul ,

How are crashlytics and firebase analytics profiting off of users? I cannot imagine not including those in an app you’re actually hoping to improve.

Artemis ,

There are other privacy-respecting trackers that could be used for app improvement. At the end of the day, Google profits from the data collected here, and Lemmy has a big community of users looking to avoid this. Tangentially, Google also has massive contracts with the Israeli military that have recently come under fire in the news…just another reason to use different app-improvement trackers if the goal is to truly boycott/divest, etc.

ModernRisk , (edited ) to technology in Promoted on TikTok, ‘No Thanks’ boycott app targets products tied to Israel
@ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I have the app and the developer is a Palestinian himself. I genuinely hope it survives, the app helps a lot to boycot products that deal with Israel.

It’s unfortunate to see that so many products have deals with Israel. Some products are sadly impossible to avoid.

Here’s a screenshot about the app from within the app itself

Thi No Thanks Origin Story

The app on the AppStore (IOS): No Thanks App

EDIT: apologies, should’ve read your post in its entirety. You already mentioned the developer was a Palestinian.

Salix ,

I find it interesting that it didn’t get review bombed on Apple.

On the Google Play Store, it’s pretty bad

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bashsof…

AllNewTypeFace ,
@AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space avatar

Interesting how the App Store page doesn’t mention Israel or Palestine.

Jackthelad , to technology in Promoted on TikTok, ‘No Thanks’ boycott app targets products tied to Israel

Imagine being sad enough to do this with everything you buy, as if you’re actually going to make a difference to anything.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

Uh... There's a reason Israel hates BDS's guts and that's not because it doesn't work.

ModernRisk , (edited )
@ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think you haven’t watched the news about the boycotts on for example; Starbucks and Mcdonalds. Also about Samsung leaving Israel.

  1. Samsung Next Withdraws From Israel
  2. McDonald’s to buy back Israeli restaurants after boycotts
  3. Starbucks loses $12B market cap amid sales concerns, boycotts over Israel

You have to start somewhere and slowly build up the boycott.

SharkAttak ,
@SharkAttak@kbin.social avatar

Imagine being sad and cynical enough to do this kind of comment. And if it's not "actually going to make a difference", why Israel want it banned?

muse ,
@muse@kbin.social avatar

ok

reddwarf ,
@reddwarf@feddit.nl avatar

I can just about guarantee that most of your day to day life is influenced by what people did in the past in regards to protests. Could be as huge as in civil war or smaller local protest to combat small issues. Your rights and comforts have been written in the blood of those who preceded you. Sometimes metaphorically, sometimes very real blood.

Protesting helps and did help.

fawanen ,

Boycotts work.

IcePee ,

Not always and not all the time. One only has to look at the many rightwing outrage, astroturf boycotts.

Andromxda , (edited ) to technology in Promoted on TikTok, ‘No Thanks’ boycott app targets products tied to Israel
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s a great app, unfortunately it’s not open-source. According to the Exodus report, it contains some tracking SDKs, but their network activity can be blocked in DNS. It also displays an ad banner by default, but this can easily be turned off in the settings.

cyd , to technology in Promoted on TikTok, ‘No Thanks’ boycott app targets products tied to Israel

It’s gonna get pulled from app stores for “promoting antisemitism”. You don’t need to be the Kwisatz Haderach to foresee this.

fawanen , to technology in Promoted on TikTok, ‘No Thanks’ boycott app targets products tied to Israel

Interesting. I’m definitely going to be checking this out.

If I have to decide between two products and one of them has fewer ties to Israel, you know which one I’m going to pick.

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