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Gormadt , (edited ) to world in Fears raised over ‘Chinese spy cranes’ in US ports
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I work with heavy machinery (primarily tractors and forklifts) there’s no reason to have a modem connected to any of its systems.

Tractors, forklifts, cranes, combines, etc don’t need such connectivity and having such features is a major security and (depending on it’s connectivity) a safety concern.

Hell when our new forklifts arrived they had dash cams pre installed by the factory, the first thing our shop technician did was remove them due to security concerns.

NoIWontPickAName ,

And then installed their own so as to maintain safety right?

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

No, they didn’t put new ones on due to info sec reasons.

Edit: We have a large amount of cameras in the building from specific vendors set up in very specific ways.

None are wireless, none can be accessed from outside our network, and only very specific people have access to what they see.

perviouslyiner ,

Aren’t cranes connected to the port’s IT system so that they know which containers need unloading?

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’d assume so (much like our forklifts) but that system should be fully independent from the control systems. That system should only have WiFi connectivity, set up in such a way it doesn’t call out to (or gets exposed to) the Internet as a whole, and that system should be fully documented for the IT staff, there should be zero unknowns.

Not to mention the level of logging on those systems for proper info sec should be quite extensive.

jacksilver ,

Not exactly the same thing, but Jon Deere does put modems on all of their tractors so farmers can track where they planted what and where they applied what herbicides/fungicides/etc. It’s largely driven by having data driven agronomy and farming, but the general idea could easily apply to logistical applications.

The real problem is why did no one know that it was being done.

Luisp , to world in El Salvador’s ‘cool dictator’ boasts country would be ‘a one-party system’ after election win

Putin was insanely popular in his country too, same as Kim jong un and bin Salman, they all have 100% approval rate, they most be awesome leaders

hydrospanner ,

Anyone can be insanely popular! Just gotta have an iron grip on the media!

selffish , to world in El Salvador’s ‘cool dictator’ boasts country would be ‘a one-party system’ after election win

This whole “democracy is colonialism” stuff needs to end lol

Aceticon ,

Bloody Ancient Athenians coming over here and taking our right to be governed by dictatum.

jaybone ,

What kind of tatum?

Landsharkgun ,

Channing

Siegfried ,

It’s the first time I heard about that… is that a common nonsensical political trope?

frezik ,

It pops up in countries that were historical targets of colonialism. Usually by the dictators who took over when the European power was kicked out.

girthero ,

Considering Latin America has had multiple coupes caused by the US I can see why their populace is bit suseptical to that sort of rhetoric.

GiveMemes ,

Multiple coups, stolen elections, entire systems of control and oppression by American corporations (banana republics), etc.

In Cuba they literally went from super racist and clinging to Spain, to multicultural and trying to get independence from Spain, then back to Jim Crow type racism because of US influences.

Latin America also has a rich and beautiful history of democracy and relative cultural unity so it’s still surprising to see all these dictators come to power. Almost every single country (if not every single one) that revolted against Spain from 1808-1825 ended up becoming a democracy. We need to put this thought at the forefront so as to avoid dictatorial strongmen.

AngryCommieKender ,

Especially since a decent portion of the US democracy was lifted straight out of the Six Nations. They straight up copied the Native Americans in the New England area of the country. Which is why when you look at the Greek version of Democracy, and the US version, there’s a ton of differences

Luisp ,

America had communal systems for like 30 thousand years before the Spanish came, and guess which system they had

Harbinger01173430 ,

Am sorry but my native American imperialistic ancestors liked annexing and conquering those beneath them and make their own empire that got annexed by the Spanish. Big fish ate small fishies before it got nommed by a shark.

phar ,

Most of them were monarchies that got destroyed by another monarchy.

Landsharkgun ,

Most of them, sure. But don’t ignore the Iroquois Confederation or the Tlaxcalan.

DarkGamer , to world in Putin betrayed us, say wives and mothers of Russian soldiers
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

If only Russians had done something about Putin and his lies before he tried to annex his version of the Rhineland.

wieson ,

Are you making a comparison to Napoléon or to 1930s Germany? Because the Rhineland was actually German and part of the German empire whereas Crimea and the Donbas do not belong to Russia but are internationally accepted as Ukrainian territory.

Sanyanov ,

So we did. But the government did an effective job to collect insane amount of police, all while jailing protest leaders and participants.

Stop portraying us all as lazy naive flock, and use democratic instruments and powers you still enjoy to not let that happen in your country.

This is not something with an easy way out.

Nobsi , to technology in Google has sent internet into ‘spiral of decline’, claims DeepMind co-founder
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

Oh yes, it’s Google who ruined the Internet… Not all the Content farms like facebook, instagram, twitter and online news. Its the search engine guys.

shectabeni ,

Why not a combination of both? Seems most realistic.

BurnedDonutHole ,

I agree. Google opened the way to monetization by advertisements and certain requirements to achieve that monetization (SEO and other meta stuff)…

Nobsi ,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

It is all of them. This is just scapegoating. The internet wasnt ruined by alphabet. It was ruined way before by increasing it’s value to companies.

theragu40 ,

If we are trying to dig into the root cause? Then yes, honestly. It is Google. And don’t call them the “search engine guys”, that’s not what they are about. They are the “mass aggregation and correlation of user data guys”. Search has been a means to an end for Google for a very long time.

All those other things didn’t exist when google was developing their model. Google paved the way for the internet no longer being free, but being “free” with payment rendered in the form of user data. That in turn directly led to all those other evils you referred to. It is not an exaggeration to imply that Google is ultimately at fault for the way the internet functions today.

Nobsi ,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

Nah. Disagree. I remember facebook gathering data to an extreme way before google pushed ads on search engine.
Thats like saying BP is at fault for climate change and ignoring exxon nd shell.

some_guy ,

Were you not there when Google Ads started?

www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&am…

Dark_Arc ,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Google’s advertising system definitely predates Facebook. It was the inspiration for Facebook and Twitter’s monetization models … There are interviews where people in those companies talk about being inspired by this Google model where they just give everyone away for free in exchange for ads being placed on their site.

HurlingDurling ,

Well, to be honest, most of the ones you mentioned did it after Google started doing it, so the point stands.

idunnololz , to worldnews in China lab suspected of Covid leak stripped of US funding for violating biosafety rules
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

Sup guys. Just commenting here so you can avoid reading the most brainlet of a take below. Hope you all have a good day.

Touching_Grass , to technology in She went beyond socialism to being a full communist and thinking that anyone rich is evil. Elon Musk reveals Twitter takeover driven by 'woke mind virus' that infected his trans daughter.

Based Jenna

const_void ,

Based on what?

WaxedWookie , to world in Putin has signed his name on the wrong piece of paper this time

Prighozin’s death is international news, but noone gives a single fuck outside the spectacle of it. The man was loved by noone outside Russia, Putin has transparently murdered dozens of people far more important to the West without being toppled.

Russia’s newly displayed military impotence shifts the calculus, but Prighozin isn’t the guy to cause an international uproar.

echodot ,

I think the bigger point is that now Wagner may very well decide that he’s the enemy.

Given the fact that all they needed to do is wander over in the general direction of Moscow and it causes absolute chaos, if they actually had a mind to invade I think they’d win in 10 minutes.

madcaesar ,

I don’t know what is worse, a sociopath with nukes or the Wagner lunatics with nukes…

Putting our hopes on those monsters to help bring down Putin will end badly. It smells of the US propping up Bin Laden to kick the Russians out of Afghanistan.

Short-term gain, with massive long-term consequences.

echodot ,

The difference in this case is that no one’s helping Wagner. It’s one set of monsters taking down another set of monsters. Entirely on their own because they’re utterly disorganised.

But one of those situations is slightly better than the other. At the very least it will weaken Russia and force them to pull military forces out of Ukraine.

rDrDr ,

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  • awwwyissss ,

    If Wagner forces the Kremlin to defend itself in Russia, it might give Ukraine a window of opportunity during its offensive.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Wagner with nukes because they’re an unknown element when it comes to nukes. We at least know that Putin is reluctant to use them.

    abrasiveteapot ,

    Putin has transparently murdered dozens of people far more important to the West without being toppled.

    Russia’s newly displayed military impotence shifts the calculus, but Prighozin isn’t the guy to cause an international uproar.

    That isn’t however the argument the article is making (noting I’m rather dubious on it).

    They’re not arguing that NATO will suddenly invade because Pringles got SAM’d.

    They’re arguing that a) the Wagner lieutenants are competent and experienced which makes it likely that they are not only capable but likely to be effective at seeking vengeance; and b) that Putin has systematically culled all the competent generals and hence there’s a reduced capability.

    Now I’m dubious on the likelihood of the first, and while the second is true I’m not as convinced it will be a game changer.

    WaxedWookie ,

    I guess that’s what I get for not reading the article - yeah, it’s hard to disagree.

    rDrDr ,

    I feel bad for the three crew members in that plane.

    WaxedWookie ,

    Yeah - though I’ve got no idea whether they were complicit Wagner stooges or largely innocent wagies.

    rDrDr ,

    That’s true, although extrajudicial killings are always bad.

    WaxedWookie ,

    I agree with the sentiment, but find that legality (the basis for it being extrajudicial or not) is a poor marker of morality that varies based on the laws of the country in question - for example: In the absence of a formal declaration of war, I think every invading Russian soldier killed by a Ukrainian is technically an extrajudicial killing (though in practical terms, if course a conviction won’t be sought). Morally, I think they have the right to defend themselves against an invading army that seeks to annex them.

    Anyhow, I think we’re effectively in agreement and splitting hairs way off-topic, so I’m going to dip. Be well!

    driving_crooner ,
    @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

    This time they didn’t even blow up a plane full of people from the Nederlands.

    Kultronx ,
    @Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    I didn’t like the guy but he was well liked in Syria and certain parts of Africa.

    WaxedWookie ,

    I’m happy to take you at your word on that, but don’t think angered parts of Africa and Syria are going to pose a meaningful threat to Putin.

    Hyperreality , to worldnews in Russian bombers intercepted heading to NATO airspace

    Not really newsworthy.

    They do this regularly. It's normal.

    It's used to test reaction time. They fly towards the border, then see how fast the jets scramble.

    Eg.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/23/world/europe/russian-bombers-intercepted/index.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/03/military-aircraft-interventions-have-surged-top-gun-but-for-real

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/17/raf-fighters-intercept-two-russian-bombers-uk-airspace

    https://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politics/russian-bombers-f-22-intercept-alaska/index.html

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/11/politics/us-stealth-fighters-intercept-russian-bombers/index.html

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/08/politics/us-aircraft-intercept-russian-bombers/index.html

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/31/politics/russian-jet-nato-b-52/index.html

    https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-planes-over-north-sea-intercepted-by-belgian-f-16s-dutch-defence-2021-11-12/

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/30/politics/nato-russia-jets/index.html

    Here's a few where the Russian scrambled jets when the US flew to near Russia:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/21/russia-says-warplane-scrambled-a-us-bombers-flew-over-baltic-sea

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/3736802/russia-warplanes-intercept-us-b-52-nuclear/

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-scrambles-two-fighter-jets-escort-us-strategic-bombers-over-black-sea-ria-2021-10-20/

    Caveat: the Russians try to portray any flight even slightly near the Russian border as very agressive and obviously use any and all incidents to play a round of whataboutism. They've also got this whole narrative going about NATO being about to invade Russia. Meanwhile western media will portray these intercepts as very agressive and unprofessional, something the Russians will deny, but given what happened with that drone a while back that's likely true.

    Occasionally someone will violate someone else's airspace, especially if countries degree where it starts/ends. Also not uncommon.

    Same thing with China.

    Not really a big deal, except that time Turkey shut down a Russian jet, or occasional spy ballon/drone shootdowns. Certainly unlikely to start a war.

    PersnickityPenguin ,

    Yeah, they also buzz Alaska and Seattle on a regular basis as well.

    MisterChief , to technology in China to limit teenagers’ smartphone use to two hours a day

    Chinese kids going to be walking around with 8 smartphones like some of those people early in the Pokemon Go days. Long Huawei.

    someguy3 OP ,

    Maybe Linux phones.

    STUPIDVIPGUY , to worldnews in Israel threatens to 'take Lebanon back to the stone age'

    I believe if Israel is going to actively commit crimes against humanity and simultaneously threaten other populations’ existence, then Israel itself has no inherent right to exist like the apologists claim

    Amir ,
    @Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

    I have news for you then! They’re already doing it

    count_dongulus , to world in Hermes billionaire to leave £5bn to former gardener

    Sounds like a secret affair with the gardener

    Lophostemon ,

    That’s exactly what happened and it’s not secret. They are referred to in some publications as ‘the couple’.

    cheese_greater ,

    Secret-again/Not-secret-again loverz

    Cinner Bot ,

    Where did you see that they were a couple?

    The newspaper said the unnamed Moroccan man is married to a woman of Spanish origin with two children, and that Mr Puech refers to them as his “children”, “daughter-in-law” and “adopted son”.

    It said he was particularly touched at the way they looked after him during the Covid pandemic.

    Sounds like he’s a reclusive hermit who inherited family wealth, and wants to give it to the only friends/family he has.

    xmunk ,

    And, of course, the only people he thinks are in need and “deserve” it are the few members of the unwashed masses he interacted with on a daily basis that he views as worthy of his unearned fortune.

    Cinner Bot ,

    Reclusive hermit

    has 1 chosen “family” that took care of him and loved him

    leaves half his fortune to that family

    confusing innit?

    athos77 , to news in ‘Storm of the century’ washes away Russia’s Crimea bridge barriers

    It emerged last week that Moscow and Beijing have discussed building an “underwater tunnel” connecting mainland Russia and occupied Crimea, amid mounting Russian fears that the Kerch Bridge, which has been successfully struck twice by Ukraine, remains vulnerable.

    China still claims to be neutral here, guess this is just "civil engineering" then.

    Diplomjodler ,

    Maybe Elon’s Boring Company could help them out.

    DaDragon ,

    To be fair, it’s a fairly normal civilian construction contract. As a capitalist, you go/do the things that make money. If that includes building bridges in an active war zone, it doesn’t matter as long as the bill gets footed.

    echodot ,

    I suspect that China will insist on money down though, which Russia will never agree to (partly because they don’t have it, but also partly because it goes against their political philosophy of always trying to hold all of the cards) so this probably isn’t going to happen.

    I really can’t see China being prepared to take Russia’s word for it that they’ll get the correct compensation otherwise.

    electric_nan , to news in Hamas blocks foreign nationals from leaving Gaza

    “Israel blocks anyone and anything from going into or out of Gaza.”

    Fitik ,
    @Fitik@kbin.social avatar

    You know Gaza has border with Egypt? That's not possible

    electric_nan ,

    Oh damn, I just looked at a map, and Gaza also borders the ocean. Clearly people and goods can flow freely in/out of Gaza that way also. My mistake.

    President ,

    Naive

    Kusimulkku ,

    But what about the Egyptian side, is Israel in your opinion blocking that too?

    electric_nan ,

    No. Egypt is blocking that. Egypt is paid inordinate amounts of money by the US to do so.

    SCB ,

    Egypt stopped allowing Palestinians to cross when refugee members of the Muslim Brotherhood (intimately tied to Hamas, and from which Hamas is an offshoot) co-opted the 2011 protests to seize control of the country.

    Imagine how Egypt would look if their pro-democracy, pro-socialist revolution wasn’t fucked by Hamas the same way Gaza has been.

    electric_nan ,

    The military runs Egypt, and they do what the US wants, which aligns with what Israel wants.

    SCB ,

    Lol everyone must kneel before the Great Satan

    Jesus you guys are fuckin insane.

    electric_nan ,

    Imagine pretending the US doesn’t wield influence. I wonder if you also pretend that Russia determines US electoral outcomes, or that Iran keeps shitting our pants in the middle east.

    SCB ,

    The US definitely has influence. Or instance, it flex that influence together Egypt to allow aid trucks through, and contribute aid of their own.

    reuters.com/…/us-egypt-commit-significant-acceler….

    Kusimulkku ,

    So it’s not just Israel

    electric_nan ,

    No it isn’t. Does it have to be? Do you think the Israeli government takes a neutral position on the Rafah border crossing? Israel is the primary prosecutor of this genocide. They are assisted and enabled largely by the US, which also dictates (client state) Egypt’s policies in this regard.

    Kusimulkku ,

    See first comment of this comment chain

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Israel in your opinion blocking that too?

    commondreams.org/…/israel-bombs-southern-gaza

    Despite urging Palestinians and others caught in Gaza to flee the northern areas, bombings that claimed the lives of yet more civilians—including children—were reported in Khan Younis and the city of Rafah.

    The attacks came hours after the IDF’s Rear Adm Daniel Hagari called on Gaza’s residents to move south “for your own safety.”

    Rafah is directly opposite the Egyptian border.

    www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/…/ar-AA1jasz8

    While the Egyptian government has made clear that it refuses to accept large numbers of Palestinian refugees from Gaza, fearful of the political and security repercussions, it has ordered hospitals in northern Sinai and elsewhere to prepare to take in wounded patients from the enclave — as they have during past rounds of fighting. As Israel pummels besieged Gaza, Egypt resists opening up to refugees

    “This border is open to take in any injured,” said Diaa Rashwan, head of Egypt’s State Information Service, at a news conference in front of the Rafah crossing Tuesday. He added that the World Health Organization has inspected “all the hospitals and medical facilities” but that “the occupying forces prevent the crossing from the Palestinian side” — a reference to Israel.

    Kusimulkku ,

    So no, Israel isn’t blocking that

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Try crossing a bridge as a bomb lands on it.

    Kusimulkku ,

    Have they bombed the bridge crossing?

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes.

    Kusimulkku ,

    Are there articles about that? Because them bombing the border crossing would obviously be a clear thing of them causing the border to be partly blocked.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Are there articles about that?

    Yes.

    Because them bombing the border crossing would obviously be a clear thing of them causing the border to be partly blocked.

    I absolutely agree.

    Kusimulkku ,

    Can I see?

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar
    Kusimulkku ,

    I’m not sure what part you meant since the article talks about how they can’t flee not because of the bombing but because the border is closed by Egypt

    Egypt has refused to open its doors to those fleeing Gaza — in part because it doesn’t want to be seen as aiding Israel’s forced displacement of Palestinians but also because it doesn’t want a massive refugee crisis within its borders.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    The border isn’t closed. Refugees have been crossing for days.

    Kusimulkku ,

    Your article just said people can’t get over because of Egypt

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    My article said the crossing was being bombed a week ago, which you disputed.

    Gaza residents have been crossing the border for the last three days.

    Kusimulkku ,

    I thought your claim was that they’re not crossing because of the bombing, but in the article you linked they’re saying they’re still trying to cross and the the reason they’re unable to is Egypt.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    My claim was that they were being bombed at the crossing, which was killing people.

    Kusimulkku ,

    But the whole discussion is about who is blocking Gaza, Israel alone or Israel and Egypt

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Bombing the crossing prevents crossings

    Kusimulkku ,

    Not per the article you posted and even the most recent news that are about how almost nobody can cross because Egypt isn’t letting them through. They’re trying, even with the bombing, but very very few are being let through. And that’s according to the people trying to cross.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    The policy of the Netanhayu government is genocide and the events at the crossing are consistent with that policy.

    Kusimulkku ,

    How is that relevant to who is blocking the pass?

    snek ,
    @snek@lemmy.world avatar

    No. They don’t have access to their sea borders. They get shot if they go out too far.

    afunkysongaday ,

    The Rafah Border Crossing is the only crossing point between Egypt and the Gaza Strip. It lies on the international border that was confirmed by the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty and the 1982 Israeli withdrawal from the Sinai Peninsula. The Rafah Border Crossing can only be used for the passage of persons. All goods traffic must use the Kerem Shalom border crossing on the Israel-Gaza border.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt–Gaza_border

    The Rafah Land Port became the primary border crossing between Egypt and Gaza, managed by the Israel Airports Authority until Israel had dismantled its settlements in Gaza on 11 September 2005 as part of a disengagement plan. It subsequently became the task of the European Union Border Assistance Mission Rafah (EUBAM) to monitor the crossing.

    In the 2023 Israel–Hamas war that began in October, the crossing was again effectively sealed. The Egyptian government refused to allow either Gazans or foreign nationals to exit Gaza via the Rafah crossing, despite intensive international efforts to secure a window of time for the Rafah crossing to open to foreigners who want to exit the Strip.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_Border_Crossing

    The Philadelphi Route, also called Philadelphi Corridor, is a narrow strip of land, 14 km (8.699 miles) in length, situated along the entirety of the border between Gaza Strip and Egypt. Under the provisions of the Egypt–Israel peace treaty of 1979, it was established as a buffer zone controlled and patrolled by Israeli forces. One purpose of the Philadelphi Route was to prevent the movement of illegal materials (including weapons and ammunition) and people between Egypt and the Gaza Strip.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphi_Route

    Tl;Dr: Europe, Egypt and Israel all play a part in managing that border. The only party that has zero control over this border is Gaza.

    noodle , to technology in Google has sent internet into ‘spiral of decline’, claims DeepMind co-founder
    @noodle@feddit.uk avatar

    I know Google is a big corpo but its hardly the only reason behind the state of the internet. It is a major factor, but to single out Google when Microsoft and others have played just as significant of a role is odd.

    kaffiene ,

    Disagree. Google is considerably more relevant to the Internet and especially advertising on the net than MS

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