warnings from some quarters that the dish will soon cost more than €10 a serving. Hanna Steinmüller, an MP for the Greens, raised the issue after she was approached by anxious members of a frisbee youth club
What the fuck am I reading here? That does not sound like very reliable sources. It sounds more like complete bullshit.
?? So you are saying a kebab is ALREADY €10 Euro, or are you saying that you too fear that it will soon be?
Nobody denies rising cost of living in general, but that’s not what the article is about.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s already 10 Euros in some places. E.g. my town is notorious for not having cheap options, every single place has good meat, not only are none trying to get away with selling Hackfleischspieß as Döner, none of them use any ground meat at all (by law, a Döner skewer can’t contain stabilisers which severely limits the amount of ground meat you can include before it falls apart).
Eight Euros are pretty much standard here. Just under 10 if you want a Lahmacun Döner, and my town isn’t the poshest, by far – we just have good taste in Döner and one very old shop which always made their own skewers, own spice mix, own everything, which set the standard.
Try to get the same stuff in Westerland and I wouldn’t be surprise if it costs 15 Euros.
Really? Is that normal Kebab size in pita bread, or the bigger variant in rolls? Because that sounds crazy expensive even here, and I’m from Denmark, the 2nd most expensive country in Europe after Norway AFAIK.
Pide and Dürum tend to be equal size and generally also cost the same. Lahmacun tend to be bigger than Dürum in the first place and then you have extra meat on there, no wonder it costs more you’re putting a Döner in something that’s already a proper Pizza.
And, as said: It’s actually good meat. If you want bad meat go to McDonalds.
OK it’s apparently been a while since I last bought Kebab or Shawarma which is more common here in Copenhagen, but AFAIK the same thing. I just checked the prices, and they are already €8-10 here!
20 years ago they were only €2 on Nørrebrogade which had super steep competition, and they were crazy good, I’ve only gotten good quality meat here too. Crazy that it’s so expensive now?!
Find a single other dish that is both commonly eaten and over-regional. Even if Currywurst was properly over-regional, it’s a snack, not an actual meal.
If you ask canteens the most popular dish is Rinderrouladen but I assure you a lot more Döner are eaten every day.
I propose we add Döner to Article 22 of the Basic Law. That’s where it belongs.
Currywurst Pommes is a proper meal. In due time it will merge with the Döner to something awe inspiring, an unseen godly feast of epic taste, but at the moment we‘re stuck with Döner Box with Pommes
I foresee we will get to choose Currywurst sauce at the Döner place one day. They already started with curry-mango. We’re slowly getting there. It will be the dawn of a new day, a new hope for a new people that understood that Döner and Currywurst are just two sides of the same coin
3,50€ for Döner in 2022 might be a Berlin thing, in other cities this price was more like 2012. A “major döner producer” is not a credible source for economical forecasting, hell it is probably one of the shittiest places to have Döner in general
Döner prices have gone up, as has everything else. Also there is no such thing as a right on having cheap meat.
As a Berliner, it doesn’t match my memory either. I don’t have historical data other than my own shitty memory, but I remember vaguely getting upset at Döner prices during the Pandemic being above 3,50€ (so in 2020).
there is no such thing as a right on having cheap meat
These days, the things people believe they have a right to are insane. It frequently spills over into preventing other people from doing or having certain things.
Although that is a great drunk food metric for the Midwest. Southwestern border states track burrito inflation, northeastern states track the cost of a slice, and southeastern states drunk food currency is pegged to the Waffle House bill.
I find this very exaggerated. In my experience, Germany has one of the most balanced cost-of-living situations of any developed country I’ve been to. Inflation is something all Western countries have been going through lately, but Germany remains relatively affordable compared to most of their peers.
Depends on your local döner supplier’s supplier. I’m pretty sure my lamb döner doesn’t contain chicken skin, unlike the cheap “Drehspieß”.
For reference, there was a legislation set in place thatandates that a real “Döner” has to contain a certain amount of quality meat, otherwise it can not be sold under that name.
At a local place, they left an order catalog on the counter. It was a catalog for just döner shops. I was just flipping through while waiting for them to get to me. It had all ingredients and price points in it
It’s actually not a percentage, you’re not allowed to used stabilising additives in the skewer which means that you can’t use a lot of ground meat or it’s going to fall apart.
But yes chicken skin is probably a good choice if you want structure for little money.
I have noticed both going up. I miss it when I could take the family to a diner once every two weeks and have family breakfast. Last time we did that the bill was 50 dollars. I can’t justify that kinda cost. By the looks of the restaurants in my area other people are deciding the same way.
It’s not guaranteed to be truth, but saying that may affect foreign politics. We have a lot of elections this year (russian ones are about to form a list of candidates), the war itself slowed down so there’s a promise that would change, money and materiel support is supporting the country but it’s never too much and offensive action needs more. I do think it’s not for internal consumption.
The west has been twiddling their fucking thumbs since the invasion started and the only reason they did things in the first place is because people had to twist their representatives arms. While Russia may not invade Norway, I think there is a huge probability of them trying to take a bite out of Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania.
Wtf does that have to do with anything? You think Putin and the current Russian government, who are staunch anti-communist and have repeatedly disavowed the USSR are…? Like what is the MATERIAL analysis here? You are just talking about your vibes and ideology!
Duuur what does Putin wanting to conquer former Russian Empire and Soviet holdings have to do with him wanting to conquer former Russian Empire and Soviet holdings duuuurrrr I’m surely making an honest argument!
If I say the Marxist buzzwords despite ignoring all their actual meanings people will agree with me!
I don’t believe you’re actually too dumb to understand the very idea of exploiting captured territory for manpower, industry, and wealth. You know, the very goal of imperialism, which Marx has quite a lot to say about.
Nope. Ukraine was a lone wolf and Putin thought it’d be easy pickings (though I’m sure he realized pretty soon how much he fucked up), but no way he’s going up against nations that are part of actual defensive pacts.
Except that’s not true, and Russia had precedent already from 2014. Oh and also Ukraine is not in NATO or the EU. So not really that surprising that Russia tried something.
AFAIK Norway is the only nation bordering Russia that has never once in history been at war with it. This asstwat and other military men have been on Norwegian national media crying for more funds after the invasion of Ukraine. One has to see this in context of Norway having underfunded their military for some time and historically being subjugated by Denmark and Sweden. However, long story short, it is just fear mongering. Russia poses no credible threat to Norway with the backing of NATO.
I would still be much more worried about the Baltic states being invaded. Even so, there is a reason no major powers have been at war since the invention of nukes, and NATO would not in any way be a pushover without the US.
I do not disagree on allocating more funds to the military. I even argued that it objectively has been underfunded. That does not change that this man is an asstwat and others like him try to scare Norwegians for their own purposes. I think a scared populace is a dangerous thing, possibly allowing for dangerous ideas to be implemented in the name of security. Recently some hefty surveillance has been implemented in Norway, which I blame on people like him.
Norway is part of NATO, and has strong incentives to make sure that its neighbours aren’t at risk of being invaded. They still have reason to want to make sure Russia wouldn’t be able to invade.
Finland and Sweden getting invaded is terrible for Norway’s economy’s and plenty of individual lives, so Norway has a natural interest in making sure those countries are well defended, either through their own means or through diplomacy, regardless of their own individual risk of being attacked by Russia.
Yes, many in Norway have wanted to establish a nordic defense agreement, but this is now dead as Sweden and Finland are joining NATO. That being said, individually Finland and Sweden have much more military strength than Norway.
I am sorry but as you can tell by the number of downvotes received logic, nuance, and difference of perspective are not allowed these days on some English language forums when it comes to Russia. You must qualify all your statements with “Russia bad” and just join in the warmongering /s
Russia wants NATO and other nations to feel that they could invade so the countries will start focusing on thier own defensive positions and stop giving aod to Ukraine. Expect to see a LOT of fake news and propaganda about this.
Not to say they’re NOT doing this, but it would be very counterproductive. If you think Russia might attack you, the cheapest option is to arm Ukraine. You get to fight Russia and you only pay materiel costs not personnel. A lot more bang for the buck. Not to mention that by arming Ukraine you’re also coalition building with every other country that’s doing the same. Which means if Russia does attack you, you can be quite confident that you will also be armed if not directly supported due to the escalation.
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