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glimse , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?

I do not want to see polls added unless it’s only moderators and admins who can post them. If Lemmy is anything like reddit (it is), the vast majority of them will be useless clutter…people posting polls as “content.”

It encourages clicking a button over leaving a reply. We’ll get a thousand “Do you think [thing] or [other thing]” posts with very little engagement.

h3ndrik , (edited ) to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?

Sure? Maybe also small Wikis for some communities.

mp3 , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

I’d like to see that happen, especially if it comes with the following options to restrict the poll:

  • by time
  • by instance
  • by existing users at the time of the poll’s creation
  • single choice, multiple choices, ranked choice
Jakdracula , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?
@Jakdracula@lemmy.world avatar

Let’s take a poll and find out!

Ludrol , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?
@Ludrol@szmer.info avatar

You could open an RFC to begin more formal discussion

nutsack , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?

can filter out image posts please i hate memes

Sunny OP ,

You could just block the communities and instances…?

nutsack ,

There are communities with a mix of good content and meme spam

smeg ,

Some clients let you do that

nutsack ,

I have yet to find one. The domain filter trick used to work on Reddit because the images had a different domain name that they would be hosted on. That’s not true for Lemmy

smeg ,

I’m using Summit, it can toggle off links, texts, pictures, and video posts

nutsack ,

holy shitnuts my man than you

TrickDacy ,

So you hate 99% of Lemmy then. Maybe stop using it?

glimse ,

Lemmy is not 99% memes. I have most meme communities blocked and I never run out of posts on my feed

TrickDacy ,

It’s a huge percentage images. Which is what OP specifically mentioned wanting to turn off.

Assman ,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

“I blocked all the memes and now there’s no memes”

…okay

glimse ,

“I read what you wrote as a standalone comment instead of as a reply so I ignored all context”

…okay

If the person I replied to was correct in saying that 99% of Lemmy is memes and I have memes blocked, that would mean I am only seeing 1% of posts when I browse. I am saying that if that was true, I would run out of posts quite quickly and that has not been my experience at all. I’d wager it’s much closer to 50% memes than 99%

lemmyreader , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?

I’d welcome polls implementation on Lemmy but maybe this is difficult with federation ? I wouldn’t mind instance only polls.

hash0772 ,

Polls are already available on Mastodon (with federation) without any issues. This could probably be implemented on Lemmy too, without any problems.

Microw ,

Is it a proper Activitypub feature or a Mastodon hack?

Legend ,

Either way the point is it is possible and as someone aldready said all we have to do is donate to give devs a little more motivation .

andrew_s ,
@andrew_s@piefed.social avatar
solrize , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?

I’m kind of against this unless people’s responses are kept private for real (i.e. not stored on the server). Otherwise it’s just more kompromat piling up.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

If you’re the Consort, that’s an important part of your endgame scoring! (Stationfall board game 😛)

smeg ,

How do you store who has voted and what the results of the poll are without storing results on a server? Ultimately it’s just the same sort of data as who upvoted and downvoted what, right?

RobotToaster ,
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar

One way encryption, same way passwords are stored.

smeg ,

Would that work to obfuscate up/downvotes in general?

RobotToaster ,
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar

Potentially, but any amount of obfuscation opens up the system to abuse.

If you trust the server hosting the community to handle all encryption, it’s trivial for the admin to disable.

If you trust the server sending the vote, then it’s trivial for a server admin to game the system and send hundreds of votes.

solrize , (edited )

It’s better than nothing if you record that account X voted in poll Y without recording how they voted. Just keep count of the # of votes for each option. After the poll closes, delete the list of voters for that poll. It might be possible to do something fancier to get more privacy.

cralder , (edited ) to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?
@cralder@lemmy.world avatar

Its a good idea, but how would that work with federation? There is already an issue with the number of upvotes on a post differing between instances. Would polls have the same problem or no?

Edit: now that I think about it, polls are already a thing on Mastodon but I don’t know if they have these issues or not.

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Depends entirely on how it’s implemented. But almost certainly yes

Sunny OP ,

Very good question, I have no idea how it could be implemented. I guess the question would have to be passed onto the developers of Lemmy. I’m sure they have already thought about it, but as you say probably difficult to implement due to federation.

Barbarian ,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Should be an option to allow/disallow non-instance users to vote. That’d be really useful here in sh.itjust.works for the Agora.

SorteKanin ,
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

It would work the exact same way, i.e. every instance would have its own idea of the results, depending on what instances are (de)federated with.

Differences in vote counts among instances is not an issue; it is by design.

Almrond ,

It would be really neat to see the differences between instances that take part in the polls, I think it would work fine.

SorteKanin ,
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

You would just view the poll on the instance you’re curious about and it would show the result from its perspective.

Carighan , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

[x] Blurgenfurl

DieguiTux8623 , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?

Personally, I would be in favor of having polls because I frequently involve people in taking decisions.

But my use case is quite peculiar because (1) I need to know people’s opinion to take actions based on it, they would not be just informative polls (2) this group of people use Lemmy as their main interaction medium, no other platform is involved.

I’ve resorted to strawpoll in the past or in having comments with multiple options and relying on the most upvoted comment but these solutions have downsides.

Blaze ,
@Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

Thank you for your work on Raccoon btw

Legend ,

Yeah really good app . Shame its not on the fdroid official repo tho .

technomad , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?

Yes. I think it would be helpful.

catharso , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?

[ ] Yes

[ ] No

[x] Maybe

Blaze ,
@Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

I don’t knooow

Can you repeat the question

lowleveldata ,
0x0 ,

You’re not the boss of me now!

Legend ,

He was before ? Also are you looking for a boss replacement ?

Catoblepas ,

Shit, it might be time for a MitM rewatch to see if it’s still aged like a fine wine.

barsoap , to mildlyinfuriating in The Duration Time on this Cookie...

Speaking about sketchy and durations…

The certificate for slrpnk.net expired on 5/6/2024.

Error code: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE

Legend ,

How is that relevant here tho ? Not trying to be rude i just don’t get it .

barsoap ,

OP fixed their certificate in the meantime so now I can actually see the image (without jumping through hoops to make firefox ignore the certificate error).

3650000 days looks like a honest mistake, should probably be exactly one year. Which is long, but not an eternity.

Sunny OP ,

Not sure I’m following the issue with slrpnk.net cert, it’s up to date my end. 5/6/2024 hasn’t been yet… so its not expired hah.

I don’t think 3650000 is a typo, that’s four zeros away from being a year. Additionally, many of these cookies have a duration ranging from a few days all the way to 10 years or more.

barsoap ,

5/6/2024 hasn’t been yet… so its not expired hah.

The current certificate is valid from Mon, 06 May 2024 07:58:01 GMT to Sun, 04 Aug 2024 07:58:00 GMT, it has been renewed today. Click on the padlock on the address bar and click your way through to see those dates. Renewal was probably automatic, in any case there was enough of a lapse for me to stumble across the error.

I don’t think 3650000 is a typo, that’s four zeros away from being a year.

Then where does the “365” come from? That’s some highly specific digits.

Sunny OP ,

I agree that it is an abnormal at least, it might not be meant to be 3650000, but thats what it says it is… Here is the full list if you want a peek at what I gathered yesterday. The formatting isnt great as it is taking from a spreadsheet.

TCF Vendor / AD Partner Name Longest Cookie Duration (days) Longest Retenion Time by Vendor
Exponential Interactive Inc d/b/a VDX.tv 90 397
Roq.ad GmbH 365 365
Index Exchange Inc. 1825 90
Quantcast 3650 395
BeeswaxlO Corporation 395 4320
Sovrn, Inc. 365 180
Adikteev n/a 730
RTB House S.A. 365 565
The UK Trade Desk Ltd 3629 365
admetrics GmbH n/a 365
Nexxen Inc. 180 400
Epsilon 184 3285
Yahoo EMEA Limited 750 400
ADventori SAS 90 400
TripleLift, Inc. 90 52
Xandr, Inc. 90 180
NEORY GmbH 90 90
Nexxen Group LLC 365 400
NEURAL.ONE 365 90
ADITION (Virtual Minds GmbH) 365 90
Active Agent (Virtual Minds GmbH) 365 90
Taboola Europe Limited 366 396
Equativ 396 40
Adform A/S 3650 60
Magnite, Inc. 1825 28
RATEGAIN ADARA INC 730 730
Sift Media, Inc n/a 1
Rakuten Marketing LLC 730 2555
Lumen Research Limited n/a n/a
Amazon Ad Server 396 396
Openx 365 90
Yieldlab (Virtual Minds GmbH) 365 30
Roku Advertising Services 396 540
Nano Interactive Group Ltd. n/a 730
Simplifi Holdings LLC 366 4320
PubMatic, Inc 1800 40
Comscore B.V. 720 90
Flashtalking 730 730
PulsePoint, Inc. 365 366
Smaato, Inc. 21 14
Semasio GmbH 366 180
Crimtan Holdings Limited 365 1095
Genius Sports UK Limited 365 365
Criteo SA 390 390
Adloox SA n/a 396
Blis Global Limited 400 400
Lotame Solutions, Inc 274 396
LiveRamp 3653 365
GroupM UK Limited 395 2
LoopMe Limited 90 396
Dynata LLC 365 730
Ask Locala n/a 45
Azira n/a 365
DoubleVerify Inc. n/a 31
BIDSWITCH GmbH 365 365
IPONWEB GmbH 365 365
Sunny OP ,

It continues;

TCF Vendor / AD Partner Name Longest Cookie Duration (days) Longest Retenion Time by Vendor
NextRoll, Inc. 183 365
Teads France SAS 365 120
Stréer SSP GmbH (SSP) 365 730
OS Data Solutions GmbH & Co. KG 90 730
Permodo GmbH n/a 90
Platform161 B.V. 396 390
Adacado Technologies Inc. (DBA Adacado) 365 395
Basis Global Technologies, Inc. 365 540
SMADEX, S.L.U. 365 365
Bombora Inc. 365 730
EASYmedia GmbH 365 365
Remerge GmbH n/a 365
advanced store GmbH 365 60
Magnite CTY, Inc. 366 28
Delta Projects AB 360 547
usemax advertisement (Emego GmbH) 365 90
emetriq GmbH 1825 180
Publicis Media GmbH 1825 730
M.D. Primis Technologies Ltd. 25 30
OneTag Limited 730 548
Cloud Technologies S.A. 365 365
Smartology Limited n/a 30
Improve Digital 90 90
Adobe Advertising Cloud 730 760
Bannerflow AB 366 30
TabMo SAS n/a 60
Integral Ad Science (incorporating ADmantx) n/a 30
Wizaly 365 1095
Weborama 393 395
Jivox Corporation 365 30
Sage+Archer BV n/a n/a
On Device Research Limited 30 90
Rockabox Media Ltd n/a 3
Exactag GmbH 1825 210
Celtra Inc. 90 365
mainADV Srl 30 90
Gemius SA 1825 1827
The Kantar Group Limited 914 4320
Nielsen Media Research Ltd. 3650 45
Solocal SA 403 4320
Pixalate, Inc. 728 61
Oracle Advertising 180 30
Numberly 180 183
AudienceProject A/S 365 1826
Demandbase, Inc. 730 390
Effiliation / Effinity 30 30
Arrivalist Co. 365 2555
Seenthis AB n/a n/a
Commanders Act 365 730
travel audience GmbH 397 397
HUMAN n/a 1095
Adludio Ltd. n/a 30
Blendee srl 366 180
Innovid LLC 90 365
Papirfly AS n/a 4320
Neustar, Inc., a TransUnion company 365 540
Verve Group Europe GmbH n/a 4320
Otto (GmbH & Co KG) 3650000 731
Adobe Audience Manager, Adobe Experience Platform 180 n/a
Localsensor B.V. n/a 31
Online Solution 365 30
Relay42 Netherlands B.V. 730 1096
GP One GmbH 300 90
The MediaGrid Inc. 365 365
MindTake Research GmbH n/a 180
Cint AB 730 366
Google Advertising Products 396 548
GfK GmbH 730 720
Sunny OP ,

It still continues;

TCF Vendor / AD Partner Name Longest Cookie Duration (days) Longest Retenion Time by Vendor
GfK GmbH 730 720
Revjet 730 90
Protected Media LTD n/a 365
Clinch Labs LTD 730 730
Oracle Data Cloud - Moat n/a 365
Hearts and Science Munchen GmbH 60 45
Amazon Advertising 396 395
Moloco, Inc. 730 730
Adtriba GmbH 730 730
Objective Partners BV 90 120
Ensighten 1825 1095
eBay Inc 90 1095
Hurra Communications GmbH 366 396
Sunny OP ,

I probably should have linked a spreadsheet or sumthin instead 😅

lars ,

Please Lemmy know if you do 🐭

CarbonatedPastaSauce , to mildlyinfuriating in The Duration Time on this Cookie...

If you don’t have your browser set to delete all cookies you haven’t made exceptions for, every time you close it, I don’t know what to tell you. Except… “you should do that”.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Why?

fuzzy_feeling ,

otherwise cookies might stay on your computer for 9993 years.

NeatNit ,

I guarantee that they won’t stay for that long on my computer.

Edit: nor yours, or anyone else’s

AProfessional ,

The maximum age is 400 days in Chrome.

CarbonatedPastaSauce ,

Privacy. By using containers and deleting cookies frequently, you can minimize the amount of tracking and data collecting these scum sucking corpos are doing.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah but what about the other 99% of cookie use cases?

CarbonatedPastaSauce ,

You add an exception to your browser to not delete them for that domain, if you need the cookie for the website to function.

That way your sites keep working, and everyone else putting shit in your browser gets their stuff deleted.

DreamlandLividity ,

I use Firefox temporary containers. So not only are they deleted 5 mins after I close a tab, but different tabs don’t share cookies unless I explicitly allow it or the tabs are opened from one source (e.g. open link in new tab)

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Sounds good. Is that an option on desktop and mobile as well? Do I need addons?

DreamlandLividity ,

It does not seem available on mobile. On desktop, it is an extension called “Temporary Containers”. You may also want the official “Firefox Multi-Account Containers” for managing sites where you want to stay logged in.

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