Ya know it’s not that anyone “deserves” to get hit by a car. I will say there are definitely circumstances I’ve seen where it was an incredibly predictable outcome
Standing in a parking lot and get hit? Drivers fault.
Sprinting across four lanes of traffic on a busy street in rush hour, at dusk, in black clothing? I mean… still the drivers fault technically, but cmon.
I’m not talking about people who throw themselves under wheel. I’m talking about legitimately crossing the street at a stop and some asshole honks you or attacks you for being in the way. There seems to be a general consensus that traffic flow is more important than people’s life. Just see how many were begging for protesters to get run over, on reddit for example.
In reality all of the people I know who are cycling got hit by a car. Hell in this very thread you can see people talking about it. What’s your point exactly?
Two of the links are discussing lawful fact, not morality, and even if they were, the commenters are saying “no, you can’t use your car to ‘encourage’ people to move”. The other two have commenters saying the driver committing vehicular manslaughter is crazy and obviously in the wrong. Particularly the last link has people expressing sympathy for the victims and animosity to the driver.
Nothing here suggests that victim blaming is common when someone driving does something illegal and injures a pedestrian.
Yeah yeah I get it. You do not want to see the problem, so there is no problem. Again, I guess my friends getting hit by car, or the several attack I personally had been subjected too for cycling too slow or crossing the street counts for nothing.
No it doesn’t count for nothing, and I’m sorry you and your friends went through that. But if people blamed you when the drivers were clearly in the wrong, that takes a special kind of being an asshole that the average person just isn’t.
Not sure. Like yeah ramming into someone intentionally is not the norm, you are right. But I have seen most of my friend and family being negligent on the road as well. It’s a norm here.
My ex girlfriend was like that. There was this piece of road when entering the city where pedestrians could cross the road. It was symbolised by some waves on the road (because it was over a bridge that's why i guess) my girlfriend would always yell at me or the pedestrians that we (in the car) come first. I don't know how true that was, she said she asked someone. And the conversation was always that i don't care, because i'm not running over people.
She would always accelerate or honk or yell out of the window. Congratulations, now you sit over there in traffic instead of back here. And you only had to endanger 10 people
I think you’ve gone off the rails a bit. This could have been an interesting retrospective about how jaywalking actually became criminalized, for example.
It’s the same principle. It’s the idea that the flow of traffic must go on and that people convenience are more important than anything else - climate, public spaces, pollution, freedom to use the vehicle you want, even people’s life.
Just to clarify: is it your belief that the editorial position of the cartoonist is that they approve of prioritizing motor traffic above everything else?
No, I haven’t heard this “general opinion”. Any conversation I’ve been a part of or observed (which, to be fair, is less than a few dozen) has always defaulted to the driver being at fault.
I’m not sure where you live that the general opinion is victim blaming, but it doesn’t sound like a pleasant place.
I’m just trying to gauge the roughness of your area, it seems you don’t want to be specific which is fine.
I live in Manchester in the UK, healthy level of gangs, knife crime etc. yet I’ve never felt the need to walk around with a hammer. Like I’ll walk through moss side with no issue.
I guess my point is I am wondering if you’re just being worried about nothing or you’re living in hell.
I mean my city is a rust belt and it’s kinda rough crime-wise. But drivers, especially, are fucking crazy. I lived in other places and people were actually quiet on the wheel. Here, I have a friend who had a case for homicide attempt after a truck rammed him “for fun”. He won. Pretty much every cyclist I know got hit by a car.
Too many people live in la-la-it-cant-happen-to-me-land and take that attitude with them behind the wheel. I think that to qualify for a drivers license one should be required to watch car crash footage and see pictures of the aftermath like you do in a good forklift safety video, because people really do not understand the relative forces involved with moving at a high rate of speed.
Does it look like your friend will ever recover his mobility?
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