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kylie_kraft , to mildlyinteresting in One of the heads of garlic I grew turned out to be just one solid clove

bih that’s a onion

stoy , (edited )

Here is another mildy interesting fact, in Swedish we group onions and garlic together by using the word “lök” with a color and different spacing to differentiate them:

“lök” - onion

“gul lök” - onion or yellow onion

“rödlök” - red onion

“vitlök” - garlic

We never talk about “vit lök”, it doesn’t really exist as a concept in Swedish, but we have more types of “lök”…

“gräslök” directly translates to “grass onion”, but the proper translation is “chives”

“prujolök” is the Swedish name for “leek”

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

i love swedish. i drive an old volvo every day and frequently end up on weird SE-language forums as a result.

Skua , (edited )

Garlic, onions, chives, and leeks (plus shallots, spring onions / scallions, and ramsons) are actually very closely related, being part of the same allium genus. That's the same level of closeness as dogs to wolves, for example my example is bad, see AlotOfReading below

stoy ,

Very interesting, I did not know that!

AlotOfReading ,

Dogs and wolves are the same species (Canis Lupus), not just members of the same genus. Genus Allium is much bigger than genus Canis (over 800 species) and its members are much less closely related to each other. The common food species are at least evolutionary cousins though, unlike other parts of the category. The onions and chives all share subgenus Cepa, while garlic and leeks are off in subgenus Allium.

Skua ,

Ahh, I think I was misled by reading Canis familiaris. Thanks for the correction

HulkSmashBurgers ,

What about shallots?

stoy ,

That would be “schalottenlök”

viking ,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

Funny, in Norwegian hvitløk is talked about a great deal.

stoy ,

Dows that refer to garlic?

viking ,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

Yes, hvitløk = vitlök in Swedish. It’s the same word really (the h is silent), and ø (Norwegian, Danish) = ö (Swedish, Finnish, German).

stoy ,

Ah, I think you missed the spacing when I said that “vit lök” wasn’t a thing in Swedish, “vitlök” is as you say “garlic”, and is a common word

viking ,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

Oh ok, I thought that was more a space for emphasis. That explains it then :-)

TrickDacy ,

We never talk about “vit lök”, it doesn’t really exist as a concept in Swedish,

Do you mean to say there isn’t garlic in Sweden??

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

They mean there is no white onion.

stoy ,

As I said, garlic is called “vitlök”, not “vit lök”

“Vit lök” means “white onion”, and does not exist

TrickDacy ,

Given what you wrote, my question makes sense. Not sure why I was downvoted for a reasonable question.

stoy ,

Because I just explained it and even noted the spacing difference between “vitlök” and “vit lök”

TrickDacy ,

You didn’t explain it originally. You could have easily but you didn’t. Apologies for being curious. I do know that most Swedes aren’t jerks.

roguetrick ,

You’re really taking this personally. Was your grandpappy an onion or something?

TrickDacy ,

Genuine curiosity isn’t something to shit on but whatever you’re super hilarious

roguetrick ,

Passive aggressive whining absolutely is though.

TrickDacy ,

What about unsolicited nosy opinions? Do I have your permission to dislike those?

roguetrick ,

You can dislike them but I’d perhaps avoid Internet discussion forums.

stoy ,

I try to not be a jerk, and this is what I wrote in my inital comment in this thread.

we group onions and garlic together by using the word “lök” with a color and different spacing to differentiate them:

So yes, I did mention the spacing

TrickDacy , (edited )

No one said you didn’t.

“vitlök” - garlic

We never talk about “vit lök”, it doesn’t really exist as a concept in Swedish, but we have more types of “lök”…

You did not define what it means with the space though, and you were kind of arrogant when I asked.

Not to mention it doesn’t really make sense to say there is a term for something that doesn’t exist. Which btw does exist. Most onions are white. So either get better at explaining or have patience with a question. I actually wanted to know. I intended to come across in a joking way because I obviously know garlic is used worldwide these days.

stoy ,

Your inital question was about us not having garlic in Sweden, when I litterarly wrote that in my inital post, hence the downvote, I even explained the difference the spacing makes in the reply to you.

Then you started whining about downvotes…

TrickDacy ,

Whatever dude. I know what happened and I stand firm you’re a jerk. Tagged as such, and I won’t make the mistake with you again

Ps you are terrible at explanations and understanding another perspective

dafo ,

rödlök*

stoy , (edited )

Tack, gjorde kommentaren när jag var väligt trött

roguetrick ,

Du lukter skitgott, but not when you’re eating vitlök, broder. (This is the extent of my swedish)

stoy ,

Allmost…

lukter is incorrect, it is luktar instead.

The other Swedish words are correct, even if we seldom use “skitgott”, unless you are 5-10 years old or so.

The normal word is “jättegott”

roguetrick ,

I screw it up because I use it in both Norwegian and swedish. It’s du lukter dritgodt in Norwegian. I generally forget how to properly spell “drag it to hell” between the two. And in my heart I’m 5-10.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

as a västgöte i take deep offense to this, it’s perfectly normal to say something is sketagôtt

stoy ,

Meh, I said that we seldom use it, not that we never do.

expr ,

What’s the difference between “vitlök” and “vit lök”?

stoy ,

“vitlök” - garlic

“vit lök” - “white onion”

White onions does not exist.

tacosplease ,

We use white onions for Mexican food here in the US. I guess it’s obscure enough that they aren’t used in Europe. Not a huge taste difference between white and yellow onions.

Maggoty ,

Looks at his red onion cheese Quesadilla…

I thought it was Whateveronionyoualreadyhavecutinthefridge?

tacosplease ,

There’s nothing wrong with using red onions. It’s just not usually what the recipe calls for in Mexican dishes.

Many Mexican dishes are improved by adding pickled onions, and red onions are best for that. They make lovely pink brine with pink pickled onions.

Maggoty ,

Oh my God they do though!

roguetrick ,

Username really checks out.

stoy ,

Huh, I did not know that, thank you!

allan ,

They are called silverlök, i believe

stoy ,

Ah, I did try to find that, but only had linuted time and didn’t find it…

Thank you for telling me!

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

i mean there’s silverlök, which is a very white-looking onion…

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

one is a word, the other is a word with a descriptor in front of it. like greenhouse vs green house, one means a building made of glass where you grow stuff, the other is a house painted the colour green.

vaionko ,

Exactly the same in Finnish also. I wonder if these words came from Swedish into Finnish, even though our languages share different ancestors. I imagine all these onions came a lot after the base Swedish / Finnish was already established.

HonkTonkWoman ,

What about Shallots? Do they also have a lök name?

E: Nevermind, just saw your response below!

souless , to lemmyshitpost in dumbass

Seeing his behavior at the RNC recently he is nothing short of a selfish, pompous asshole who thrives on the postitive reinforcement generated from the dumpster fire of his own ego.

ShinkanTrain , to mildlyinteresting in The Poole Museum in the UK has a display behind glass of a rock donated to the museum by a young child.

Update: Bethan stole that rock from a former colony. The museum said it’s not giving it back

MrFappy , to lemmyshitpost in Levels of delusion

Wat?

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar
Denjin ,

Obviously you’re not a golfer

Boozilla , to lemmyshitpost in dumbass

I’m pretty sure Gaetz looks like that because there’s a tiny, evil extraterrestrial inside his skull driving his body around like that character in Men in Black.

Rhaedas , to mildlyinteresting in The Poole Museum in the UK has a display behind glass of a rock donated to the museum by a young child.

It's absolutely the type of rock you'd stop and pick up. It belongs in a museum...oh.

Harvey656 , to lemmyshitpost in dumbass

There’s no way his music taste is nearly as good as buttheads.

Caboose12000 , to lemmyshitpost in 6/10 sandler supremacy

I know all those Adam Sandler movies but I don’t know any of those anime’s, what are they?

Linnce ,

First is Gintama and last is Bakemonogatari. I don’t know the others.

Vrtrx ,

“Don’t toy with me Nagatoro” and “Uzaki chan wants to hang out” are the 2 middle ones

FiniteBanjo , to linuxmemes in Tough choice

Hear me out.

The Wolves got through the airport checkpoints without any issues.

RobotZap10000 ,

And what do you imply?

FiniteBanjo ,

It was an argument in favor of the wolves. In fact, there is no implication at all, it was very blatant.

nexussapphire , to linuxmemes in Tough choice

I guess I’m not that guy. I use arch Linux (had to say it for the memes)but I like coding, drawing, learning new languages, photography, and I’m thinking about picking up calligraphy someday.

Veneroso ,

Only masochists run Arch.

I run Gentoo BTW.

Emerald ,

Only masochists use Gentoo. I use KISS Linux

Veneroso ,

I think that you misspelled Hannah Montana Linux?

(I just Googled KISS Linux. I tip my fedora, but I hope that you’re compiling everything from source!)

nexussapphire ,
Veneroso ,

I had never installed Linux before. Back in 2006 my old college roommate told me that he was reading about it. I used Solaris Spark workstations back in college, but never ran Linux before. My other roommate ran Slackware which looked cool but I never looked into it. Anyway I had recently built a custom PC and I was trying to avoid paying the windows tax, and was growing tired of having to reinstall the cracked version I was using of “corporate windows xp” so I pulled up the installation guide, printed it out, and proceeded to install the stage 1 tarball.

It definitely was a trial by fire. I learned a tremendous amount, and I don’t regret any of it.

I even was playing WoW under Cedega.

I did eventually pick up a copy of Windows XP to run in parallels for Linux, and unfortunately, had to give it up for Windows XP as the main os due to Blizzard banning people who were playing Linux at the time.

I miss it sometimes, but I don’t have the free time to properly maintain an install of Gentoo.

I usually run Linux Mint on my VMs and test bench hardware however because it just works.

I ran Arch briefly but my conclusion was that if I wanted Ck and bl torture, I would just main Gentoo again.

nexussapphire ,

Arch isn’t that bad, it’s a lot of what you have to do in Gentoo. Infact Gentoo is more manual and hands on than arch with a lot more room for error. Arch has a lot of systems service made specifically to make install and maintenance easier.

I don’t know how long ago it was when you tried it but I’d give it another shot, it might surprise you! There’s a lot arch does to help you that most people don’t even realize.

Veneroso ,

I ran it about 5 years ago. A friend had trouble getting the Nvidia closed source drivers installed so I spun up an install to get it done. I was able to figure it out. There was an error message that either she didn’t spot or maybe didn’t find a resolution too.

I do like Gentoo primarily because I am a troubleshooter at heart, I just don’t always have the time to deal with a broken system anymore.

I do get tempted to run it on bare metal from time to time. The last time I tried to install it in VirtualBox, it didn’t work out unfortunately.

nexussapphire ,

Yeah, virtual box doesn’t work all that well from my experience. If you’re on windows I’d definitely recommend checking out VMware. VMware even has support for windows 95 and stuff.

It’s been about five years but I’ve managed to install arch just fine on virtual box (in macos) but VMware is just a more robust polished experience and it has a free version on windows.

Veneroso ,

I read about the free edition, I will have to look into that. Thanks!

dumbass , to linuxmemes in Tough choice
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

In my designated seat…

aodhsishaj ,

Exactly! Why would I sit next to myself?

rickyrigatoni , to linuxmemes in Tough choice
  1. I use linux too so I’d get a more diverse range of conversation material with the wolves.
Even_Adder , to lemmyshitpost in 6/10 sandler supremacy

Gintama?

pewgar_seemsimandroid , to linuxmemes in Tough choice

1, just switched to Linux.

Agent641 ,

You should sit in 2 then, to tell the wolves how superior your OS is

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

its too expensive…

Fedizen , to linuxmemes in Tough choice

what do the wolves smell like?

lemmyvore ,

Trick question, it doesn’t matter since the plane reeks of kerosene with a faint hint of vomit.

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