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ShinkanTrain , to memes in Helth?

Skinner, why is there smoke coming out of your toilet?

ethanolparty ,

Oh that isn’t smoke, it’s steam! Steam from the steamy shower I was just having!

Aggravationstation , to memes in Silver lining
PunnyName ,

EXACTLY who I thought of!

casmael ,

Welles is the fucking shit man 👌👌👌👌

udon , to linuxmemes in Tough choice

Totally next to the linux guy. In fact, I was in such a situation on the train before. I was just there working and the person sitting next to me noticed I had a linux desktop (in fact, GNU/Linux, btw). They were curious and vaguely interested in switching to linux for a while, so we had a nice conversation about this.

I would not bring this up myself, but it’s cool that this happens sometimes (i.e., once in a few decades of life so far)

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

Totally next to the linux guy. In fact, what you’re refering to as Linux is GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

udon ,

Thank you. In that sense I find OP’s question misleading: Option 1 should be “guy who really likes to talk about the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project”

nonfuinoncuro ,

I bet I could convert a hundred people to Linux.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

How much you wanna bet I can throw a football over them mountains?

Here4CatPics ,

This is the good interaction, I had the bad version:

Long ago in highschool I was interested in Linux but was thrown off it by the “Tech” group of kids who, even though we went to the same nerdy Star Trek club, told me I would be able to understand it.

I get that hurt people, hurt others; but duck those guys from 20 years in the future.

I’m getting back into interest for Linux cause I just got a Steam Deck and I’m curious as to what else I can do with a full desktop.

udon , (edited )

Good luck! The way I see it: Linux has its issues, but so do Windows and Mac OS (and others). The cool thing with Linux though is that for many problems you can create/find some form of error logs, google them, and someone online will help you. In most cases they have solved that problem already.

Windows problems often feel like black magic: Something doesn’t work, but all you can do is knock on your laptop, turn it off and on again, and pray. Unless you’re lucky and find a shady program online that you can download and install, hoping the programmers mean well.

With Mac OS, you can often solve problems by throwing money at them. But sometimes that doesn’t work and then you can’t do anything about them and just have to accept the one way to use your computer correctly.

So in that sense I don’t think Linux is “harder”. There are problems of course, but you learn to think differently about them and are often able to solve them.

Here4CatPics ,

My thoughts exactly, and thanks for such a nice reply

AlexWIWA , to programmerhumor in crowdStrikeIsAVerbNow

They struck the whole crowd for sure

pewgar_seemsimandroid , to linuxmemes in LOL

i just installed it like before i went to sleep

Wanderer , to greentext in Anon is asking the difficult questions

The hot crazy matrix

youtu.be/7jHTGNPOYGQ

Wanderer , (edited ) to greentext in Anon is asking the difficult questions

No matter how hot a woman is someone somewhere is tired of her shit.

Option 2. Don’t have kids break up with her. Be happy about it, thank God it is finally over. Then think back on how great the sex was and miss her for the rest of your life.

BackOnMyBS ,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place avatar

No matter how hot a woman is someone somewhere is tired of her shit.

This is 100% true. Not only that, but the more hot a woman is, the less she’s had to develop a loving personality and skills. I’ve gotten to the point that I won’t even consider dating anything above a 7 anymore. Those are just traps. I’d like a nice 6-7 with some hobbies, quirks, and skills pls. She would be my 10.

SuckMyWang , to programmerhumor in crowdStrikeIsAVerbNow

So why is this considered a crowdstrike issue and not a Microsoft fuckup?

Tartas1995 ,

Basically, crowdstrike wrote bad code that run as a driver, windows doesn’t like bad code in their drivers. Kernel level code is generally expected to run properly. crowdstrike’s kernel level code was really bad. Embarrassingly bad.

If the host creates a playlist and everyone can add their favorite song to the playlist, the host won’t be blamed if you add “erika”. People rightfully think you are an ignorant weirdo or a bad person, not the host.

InfiniteFlow ,
@InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world avatar

OTOH, if you build a playlist manager for playlists everyone can add to, you make sure nothing anyone adds will break it…

Eheran ,

Except that the playlists are super complex and there is no way to make sure. Like building an engine and having to make sure that no 3rd party accessory will break it. Like the parented “sand injector”.

Tartas1995 ,

Well do you want to have Microsoft approving EVERY driver for windows? Rip 3rd party open source drivers for retro hardware

pHr34kY ,

What do you think WHQL is?

The problem with CrowdStrike’s solution is that they got csagent.sys driver signed by WHQL, and the driver will download p-code from the internet and execute it. This allows them to push out changes without waiting for Microsoft approval.

The biggest problem occurs when you don’t sanitize your inputs and someone accidentally uploads a blank file padded with zeroes. The driver dereferences a null value, and crashes your system. Hard.

Tartas1995 ,

I don’t want to argue with you and I admit that my phrasing wasn’t ideal but I assumed that it was obvious that i was talking about everything that would be executed on the machine. Apparently it wasn’t.

pHr34kY ,

Ahh. Approving every piece of software would make them… Apple.

You did say “driver”, and Microsoft typically approves every single driver on the majority of PCs.

Serinus ,

They were legally not allowed to as part of an agreement to not be s monopoly and allow competition.

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Windows: exists

Crowdstrike: stabs

You: why would Microsoft stab themselves?

fushuan ,

Windows: exists

Crowdstrike: exists

Windows: open belly, right here!

Crowdstrike: stabs

Crowdstrike released bad code into prod without giving it some hours of testing in local machines or whatever. Incredible fuckup, inimaginable. But, let’s not take blame out of Microsoft, if a driver is faulty the system should be resilient enough no to crap the bed on login. At least enough for IT to be able to remotely access the system and fix it. The manual work the IT world has had to do because it’s lost remote access to workstations is insane.

aptgetrekt ,

To be fair, kernel level access by third party software is kind of frowned upon in the Linux world. Ask any desktop Linux user how they feel about NVIDIA (the only third party kernel code an average Linux user will install) and their drivers randomly causing strange issues on their systems up to and including kernel panics compared to the experience on AMD where the driver is open and built into the kernel itself. For security software that needs low level visibility, there is eBPF, direct kernel level access isn’t needed (though I believe CrowdStrike uses it, and thay actually did CrowdStrike Debian and Rocky Linux systems some time back).

MacOS blocked the majority of kernel extensions a few years ago as well.

Windows is the only OS where it has been designed in a way where kernel level access is the rule rather than the exception. So design flaws are at least partially at fault here.

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy ,

I’m so glad i got rid of my nvidia card. Having to reinstall the divers and kernel-headers every time my kernel updated was getting old.

UndercoverUlrikHD ,

Heard from someone else (so take it with a grain of salt) that CrowdStrike and/or similar companies threatened Microsoft with an antitrust suit when Microsoft tried to force them to use an API instead of working directly with the kernel.

ElectricMoose ,

The opinion of Linux desktop users (or any users really) do not count in the enterprise world. Somehow, if management bought in on the Crowdstrike rootkit bandwagon, you’ll see it on corporate hardware. It doesn’t matter if it’s a bad plan; it doesn’t matter if it gives an American company a backdoor to all you infrastructure; if the CISO decides everyone gets it, everyone get it.

The only thing you can really do as a lowly employee is keep any such device away from any personal info or network as if it’s infected by malware (which I would argue is exactly what it is).

jaybone ,

Nelson Muntz: Stop striking yourself!

refurbishedrefurbisher ,

Same thing would happen on Linux if someone wrote a bad kernel module and integrated it into the OS. In fact, Crowdstrike did have a similar problem a few months ago on Linux.

I’m no fan of Microsoft, but this isn’t their fault.

SapphironZA ,

An OS should not have to require a 3rd party driver for security.

Microsoft should be writing that driver as an OS component. Drivers should be restricted for taking to hardware.

refurbishedrefurbisher ,

I thought only people who subscribed to CrowdStrike’s services had that driver installed.

SapphironZA ,

That is true. The issue is that because there are so many permission escalation issues in windows, that many anti malware products must run as kernel drivers.

witx ,

Can you explain why you think this is a Microsoft issue?

SuckMyWang ,

Doesn’t Microsoft allow crowdstrike to make updates? Being such a critical part of the OS it’s up to Microsoft to ensure their procedures are robust and being followed.

witx ,

How do you implement that? How is it feasible that Microsoft tests all the third party drivers?

Don’t get me wrong I believe Microsoft is partly to blame for this problem as well but for making it so hard for system admins to go around the system and solve things (as compared to Linux where you can do anything). I think sys admins would have solved this much faster if they were using Linux systems

I was just probing your argument because I guessed it was the typical nonsense of Microsoft bad, Linux good, without a good explanation

SuckMyWang ,

I think if it’s going on every windows computer windows should have a process in place to prevent what happened from happening. Windows are for profit, they have the money to do it right but they got greedy. A staggered rollout would have prevented most of it and is a very simple thing to require. Also if it’s going on every windows computer or most I wouldn’t consider that a third party anymore even if that’s how they keep liabilities at arms length

saigot , (edited )

I think if it’s going on every windows computer

It’s not, its just popular. Its not windows job to police what software you choose to run on it.

However Windows does actually have an optional certification program called WHQL for kernal level drivers. Getting this certification lets updates get posted via windows’ internal updater. It checks the driver calls apis correctly and doesn’t misbehave with interrupt handling among other tests. Crowdstrike driver did pass this, and in fact there was no bug with the driver, the bug was with the configuration file. The configuration file updates about once an hour (and it really needs to do that), and does so outside the windows update process, making windows powerless to control its rollout. whql certification takes a few days to run and configuration files aren’t really in scope.

SuckMyWang ,

Thanks for the info, i didn’t know that and understand it a bit better now.

Chickenstalker , to mildlyinteresting in The Poole Museum in the UK has a display behind glass of a rock donated to the museum by a young child.

The year is 3524 AD. Probes from Alpha Centauri visited Old Earth for the first time since the Great Burning cut off all communication between Old Earth and the Five Extrasolar Colonies in 2519 AD. One of the items brought back from the ruins of an ancient museum is puzzlingly called Bethan’s Rock. Historiologists are not sure who Bethan was and the significance of the otherwise mundane object. One theory is that Bethan is some sort of local “Influencer” (predecessor to the line of now banished Memetic Cyber-Daemons) and the rock is its real-world foci.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Did you ever read the David Macaulay book Motel of the Mysteries? This reminded me of that.

umbraroze , to linuxmemes in Tough choice

Plot twist: the “wolves” are just furries going to a major infosec conference, and will also talk endlessly about Linux

Petter1 ,

And about how they penetrated disney so hard with their hairy giant cocks, lol

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

Do you realize you could simply not type a comment about hairy giant cocks?

Petter1 ,

Yes

callyral ,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar
Damage , to greentext in Anon is asking the difficult questions

It’s actually a spectrum

Kolanaki , to mildlyinteresting in One of the heads of garlic I grew turned out to be just one solid clove
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

The fabled ultra clove! It’s real!

HEXN3T ,
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

THE ONE PIE-

downpunxx , to lemmyshitpost in What Can Be, Unburdened By What Has Been

Over a Million Americans lost their lives due to an inept Federal Viral Pandemic response during Trump's last administration. If that's not being burdened, and warned pretty plainly, by what has been, I don't know anything that would qualify.

The choice is life and death. These things are not the same.

pixxelkick , to greentext in Anon is asking the difficult questions

Easily #1, but that’s because they worded it as what her current interests are.

Just be interesting yourself, and put the work into finding out what about her interests are actually interesting. People find things interesting for a reason.

No one is actually boring, if you find someone boring it just means you dont understand them yet. Pay attention, listen, and try to see it through their eyes and maybe you’ll find their “boring” interests aren’t so boring after all, you just didnt “see” it fully yet to appreciate it.

And, typically, if you put the work into showing interest in whatever they are into, they’ll reciprocate.

Also, there’s infinite room for the two of you to both find new interests neither of you had before that now you both can share.

When my fiance and I started dating years ago, neither of us gave a shit about birds… but now that we live in a place with lots of cool random birds we can spot, and we go for walks everyday, we actually stop and go “holy shit what kind of bird is that, I dont recognize it” or “holy fuck are those pelicans? I didnt even know we got pelicans here!” etc etc.

The other day out of the blue when we were chilling at a nearby water reservoir watching a duck, a whole ass fuckin pelican came outta nowhere and swooped down, splashing into the water and sniped a random fish, then burst up with it in its mouth like… 2 feet in front of us. It was a pretty big “holy shit did that just happen?” moment.

If we hadn’t been sitting there just enjoying watching a duck, we never would’ve gotten to see that pelican.

So, you know, maybe there’s no such thing as “normie” interests, or a “boring” person. You might be the boring one if anything, because you can’t understand why people love something and get interested in it…

drosophila , (edited )

I think you might be underestimating the intensity of some people’s interests and how much of their being is defined by them, especially non-neurotypical people.

EDIT: Like, if you live in a van with solar panels on the roof you should probably find a partner that’s also cool living inside a van.

If you spend a significant stints at home wearing a fursuit, you should probably find a partner that enjoys or at least doesn’t mind living with what looks like an anthropomorphic furry creature.

If you regularly consume large doses of halcinogens to explore the limits of human consciousness you should probably find a partner that’s doesn’t mind hearing about how you saw an infinite blade made of time that slices the present moment into two parts: the past and the future.

Boxscape ,
@Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I enjoyed reading your examples and wouldn’t mind reading a few more.

drosophila ,

I mean it’s basically anything that massively affects your living situation or how you outwardly present / function as a person.

Want to live in a hole in the desert, or a cabin in the woods, or in a semi-legal squat? It would be pretty hard to maintain a relationship with a partner whose not also into living that way.

Want to convert the interior of your house to look like a Star Trek set? Better find someone that wants to live on the USS Enterprise.

Are you into extreme body modification? Better find someone whose alright with their partner surgically altering themselves to look like a Klingon.

There are also plenty of interests that are just risky or disruptive, like doing urban exploration, running a home chemistry lab, building tesla coils, etc. Tesla coils are just loud, urban exploration can get you arrested (though it’s unlikely anything of consequence will actually happen to you), and two of the amateur chemistry YouTube channels I watch have been raised by the police because the amount of glassware they bought set off an alarm (neither of them were charged with anything though). If you do any of those and your partner isn’t interested in them at all I can’t imagine that not being a pain point, considering that risk/disruption is also on top of you spending significant time / energy / cash on a hobby they have nothing to do with.

Finally, there are more benign hobbies like through hiking or immersive historical reenactment where, if your partner’s not coming with you, they’d have to be okay with you disappearing for weeks at a time and not being able to talk to them.

pixxelkick ,

Reread the post.

“Doesn’t share an interest with you” isn’t the same as “actively dislikes your interests”

Xenny ,

You saw the time knife

nickwitha_k , to linuxmemes in Tough choice

What OS do the wolves use? And are they there to crank their hogs?

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