I don’t think it’s meant to “hide” it from the government. I think it’s meant to avoid using official government documents. This stems from the belief that your birth certificate is the government opening a trust in your ALL CAPS name.
I might be messing some of that up. I still haven’t figured out what combination of alcohol, drugs, sleep deprivation, or whatever is optimal for trying to make sense of their shit. But I promise you I’m committed to figuring out the alcohol/drug portion at least.
Maybe the reason the Republicans are trying to annihilate heat-related injury protection and precautions like water breaks in the red states is because the exact kind of mental state required to understand SovCit ablogic can only be attained via heat stroke.
I read this as that they gave written, legal NON-consent, then verbally backtracked. The hospital had paperwork one way and none the other. Of course they followed the paperwork.
Medical professional giving my two cents here: physicians and healthcare providers are allowed, and in some cases even required, to disregard the expressed, voiced, or even written wishes of the parent if the parent’s wishes would endanger the child’s life. The classic example is with Jehovah’s Witnesses: if a child of a Jehovah’s Witness is getting surgery or suffered an injury with significant blood loss, the child will be given life-saving blood transfusions irrespective of the parents’ religious beliefs or wishes.
This is not a breach of informed consent taken lightly, but physicians and other medical professionals will ignore what the parents did or did not consent to if it means that the child or vulnerable adult would die or suffer grievous harm otherwise.
In this case, it’s the medical ethics standards that have been discussed, litigated, and debated to hell and back before landing on the accepted standard. So it’s the physicians, lawyers, ethics experts, legislators, and judicial system that agreed on what is best.
These people are like 10 year olds baking in the kitchen for the first time. They throw everything into the cake that tastes good to them, with zero understanding of any of it, and expect it will turn out terrific
My kids actually did just that (they started at age 7, I believe) - and what they ended up fishing out of the oven was terrifically tasty. I think it mostly consisted of baby porridge, sweetened cocoa powder, and sweetened condensed milk.
I mean, that probably IS why they were denied. Anyone in arrears more than $2500 receives an initial letter saying to fix it within 90 days, and if they don’t, they get denied. In the state I live in, they don’t release the passport until the full balance is paid off. Other states might make payment plans. The venn diagram of sovcits and people who owe back support has a decent amount of overlap, so it wouldn’t be at all surprising if this person owes.
The Dept of State would normally either send them a regular ass passport, or a letter saying, “Your sovcit nonsense is nonsense, you can either get a regular ass passport, or we’re keeping your money and you get nothing,” but no point in that since this moron is probably not going to pay their past due support anyway.
I’m a bit surprised that that was the only reason, though. Why would you expect you could get a passport from a country that insist not to be a citizen of?
Also, “I authenticated my birth certificate to a non hague-convention country”? I’m having a bit of trouble deciphering exactly what that means, but it kinda sounds to me like they just admitted to, you know, forging their birth certificate…
It’s not the only reason, just the first and easiest. Also, they can say they’re not citizens all day, but unless they legally revoke it (expensive and difficult without dual citizenship because no one wants to deal with a stateless person), the Department of State knows they are. They think that they’re citizens of the state in which they were born, and they want the passport American Samoans get, which is for American nationals, not citizens. They pretty much take real things that exist and try to twist them into whatever alternate reality they’re living in.
As for the birth certificate, I’m 99% sure what that means is that they requested an apostille. It’s basically a certificate signed by the (state level) secretary of state saying the document is authentic that’s attached to certain legal documents. It’s required by certain countries, so I’m assuming they said they need it for a non-Hague country and they think that does something a lot more interesting than just saying it’s a real birth certificate.
Let's be honest: he probably discovered SovCit idiotness because he was refusing to pay for support, and he probably wants to leave the country to avoid having his wages garnished ...
While this is true to a point it is very fucked up that for job interviews and things like that they have to extract fluids from you and test them.
That SHOULD be against our 4th amendment rights in the USA.
For childbirth it’s a bit different, because a child is involved. But I can’t blame them for wanting consent for something that really shouldn’t even be legal to do at all.
They’re getting their kid a tax ID but no birth certificate. If that kid ever wants to go to public school it’ll be interesting how to get them enrolled. Fuck, or even for the kid to get a job.
I know what the parents want, I’m referring to how hard it’ll be for the child to reintegrate into society which is really difficult for them, especially when they turn 16 and have no records.
They barely want this kid to be identifiable, they definitely don’t want 'em in a public school. Prolly also trying to avoid vaccines, which are necessary for public school kids.
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