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skellener , to retrogaming in Retro games really did look better on a CRT
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Better is subjective

nakal , to retrogaming in Retro games really did look better on a CRT
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Would a simple blur filter be enough to emulate this?

jayrhacker ,
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Most emulators have extensive CRT emulation filtering, I wouldn't be surprised if both the above images were created by an emulator.

DarkThoughts ,

It's been many years since I emulated the SNES with either Snes9x or ZSNES but I'm pretty sure they both had different rendering filters to make the screen more blurry. Whether you like that more or less is of course up to you, hence why it is good to have it as an option, but it of course won't help you if you're hooking up an actual SNES to a modern TV.

NightOwl ,

Here’s a quick guide on applying shader with retroarch.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZpBRR4DGG0

ghariksforge , to retrogaming in Retro games really did look better on a CRT

In Linux you can try gamescope with fsr upscaling. It’s a must-have for playing old games.

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  • ghariksforge ,

    happy to help! gamescope is pretty amazing

    thingsiplay ,
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    @LastoftheDinosaurs gamescope was created by a Valve employee for the Steam Deck and made available for Linux in general! -> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope

    artifice ,

    This might be a dumb question, but would you know if you can put that on a steam deck?

    ghariksforge ,

    yes, I think it was even originally intended for the deck.

    artifice ,

    Thank you. I’m supposed to be sleeping now, but I don’t think I will anymore.

    Scanzy ,

    The last time I set up an emulator I looked into this and it really improved things!

    AlternateRoute , to retrogaming in Retro games really did look better on a CRT

    A lot of games depend on a CRT for color blending / smoothing / transparency effects. I actually don’t really like how nearly all 8 / 16bit games look on modern displays, filters generally don’t do a good enough job emulating the look.

    popekingjoe ,
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    It’s called dithering, and it’s super nice imo. Still, I kinda like the super pixely look if I’m being honest.

    AlternateRoute , (edited )

    Some games did transparency by alternating frames which on interlaced sets would draw every other line per frame or something along those lines.

    Those effects do not appear in screenshots or generally on any progressive scan modern display without specific emulation

    Some examples : m.youtube.com/watch?v=y6NLXga1i0M the first two look horrible but the third shows the blending more like how it would have originally appeared.

    zombuey , (edited )

    That’s so cool. I never considered the sort of analog nature of the frame being redrawn being used to create unique effects. If I understand the intent was that on older sets the previous frame would “fade” instead of turning instantly on or off it produced a transparency effect.

    AlternateRoute ,
    wavebeam ,
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    Yeah, you’re pretty much right. Interlacing complicates it a bit more because not only would the previous frame “fade” but half of the frame was drawn, every other line, and then the next half. So it didn’t look like a flicker because it was basically 60fps for half of the total screen, but an alternating 30 frames for each half of the image. This is why on early and terrible transcodes, you can get a “comb” effect, it’s not properly combining the image per frame and showing you half of the last frame and half of the next frame and the motion in the image shows in combs.

    It’s really interesting stuff, imo.

    SCmSTR ,

    There's something very satisfying about it being actually pixel-perfect.

    However, there's also something to be said for a/b comparing for each sperate game and deciding what you think looks best for it. Having options is always best.

    shinnoodles , to retrogaming in Retro games really did look better on a CRT
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    Yeah, there’s a crazy amount of tricks they employed to bring the sprites to life in a way that just isn’t possible on modern displays. The sharp pixel look is actually an unfortunate byproduct of the transition to newer tech.

    RightHandOfIkaros ,

    Abusing and exploiting slotmasks and such were what made games designed for CRTs look so much better on them. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work backwards, because newer games designed for LCDs and LEDs don’t look any better or worse on CRTs, outside of overscan and resolution issues.

    ocassionallyaduck ,

    Shredder’s Revenge has entered the chat.

    For real though many modern pixel art titles use these same color techniques, and while they do not depend on crt blending them at all, they can often see slight visual benefits from the pixel blending that is possible with a modern shader adding that effect.

    Fight n’ Rage has a built in set of shaders that do just this and it is beautiful. It is on by default, but still optional.

    Running shredders revenge with a very mild crt effect also looks really good on a lot of the blended colors.

    wavebeam ,
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    Sonic Mania has a very good built-in CRT shader. It’s not a perfect recreation, but it think it looks excellent! And I also think it looks really great on a CRT using a downscaler.

    DoctorLuv , to pics in My wife crying in front of General Sherman [OC]

    That’s adorable. I would love to go see that big Ole tree. I’d probably cry too.

    Elkenders , to ukcasual in Found in my Photos Album from some time ago

    Could have a lovely lamb lunch in the centre of Windsor.

    Ashigaru , to pics in Spirit
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    War is bad, but I love the planes.

    leraje , to ukcasual in Found in my Photos Album from some time ago
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    Inside A Suitable Legoland

    Leafstalker , to interestingasfuck in Earlier this year, this lenticular cloud appeared over Turkey.

    Suddenly, I have a craving for a Cinnabon.

    Mookulator , to interestingasfuck in Earlier this year, this lenticular cloud appeared over Turkey.

    Looks like there’s a mountain next to it. Standing lenticular clouds often form over mountains. This one appears particularly prominent though!

    Banger , to interestingasfuck in Earlier this year, this lenticular cloud appeared over Turkey.

    A UFO that may have a UTI

    linearchaos OP ,
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    That would explain a lot in Nope

    feck_it , to memes in Gamers gonna game

    I am just reminded of that old pic that someone was taped to celling with their equipment and everything right now, they were playing some counter strike i think.

    Shady_Shiroe OP ,
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    festus , to memes in Reddit moment!

    Ugh for the longest time the investment firm I use had one product locked away on their app. Thankfully I checked today and I can sign up and use it on the web!

    burak , to interestingasfuck in Earlier this year, this lenticular cloud appeared over Turkey.

    God is a woman by Ariana Venti

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