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MoonJellyfish OP , to lemmyshitpost in Peter Griffin and Ariana Grande
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eager_eagle ,
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sbeve

pipe01 ,

Now do loss

db2 , to lemmyshitpost in Peter Griffin and Ariana Grande

That would be about her style.

MoonJellyfish OP , to lemmyshitpost in Peter Griffin and Ariana Grande
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potentiallynotfelix , to memes in its true tho
Getawombatupya ,

Get a haircut, hippie.

PuddingFeeling907 ,
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Ubuntu Touch represent!

Beaver ,
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Also the team got volte and 5g running on the os!

potentiallynotfelix ,

Oh shit that’s dope I haven’t been keeping up too much with the project

RustyNova , to linuxmemes in Can I get a filesystem cleanup on aisle 6?

Can a linux/systemd nerd explain what the error is? I know it’s a shutdown sequence, but I’m curious on the fault

earthquake ,

These kinds of public errors are almost always a hard drive failure.

CameronDev ,

It is actually a boot failure. Normally the kernel reads some config from the initrd (the bootloader loads initrd and passes it to the kernel - thanks dan) and then does a bunch of setup stuff, and then it mounts the actual root filesystem, and then switches to using that. In this case, the root filesystem has failed to mount.

Hardware failure is most likely the cause, but misconfiguration can also make this happen. Probably hardware though.

If its misconfiguration, an admin can reattempt to mount the root drive on /new_root, and then ctrl-d to get the init system to try again

ELI5: couldnt open C:/ drive

Edit: clarified what loads the initrd - as per dans comment.

JasonDJ , to memes in its true tho

They pit us against each other in this arbitrary culture-war…the proprietary versus the open standards. And it’s so wildly anti-consumer but we fall for it, year after year. Maybe one day Apple users will realize how anti-consumer it is, but I doubt it, they love the exclusivity of being half of the people with a smartpbone.

Dyskolos ,

Lol yes. Isn’t it sad? They’re even proud of being “rich” (lol) and brag about their stupid apple-gadgets. Apple really managed to get from “get more, pay less” to “get less, pay even more and get fucked” and having people kiss their butts for it.

JasonDJ , (edited )

Apple as an OS and platform itself, isn’t bad. macOS, I’d contend, is probably the most user-friendly experience out there. iOS and iPadOS aren’t far behind.

Apple also tends to be late with new features, but makes sure they are polished and complete when they launch.

But that’s it. I wouldn’t say that makes them the best by any means. They all have their merits in their own regard. Consumers have their own reasons for selecting one platform over another, and those that don’t choose Apple.

Sent from my OnePlus 12 (and I use Arch, btw) (and my last phone was an iPhone 12 pro max…the only reason I got it was because I was sick of exchanging potatograms with my wife, who wouldn’t use a separate app just to message me. Before that it was a OnePlus 6T, then Galaxy S9, Note 4, Nexus 4, and HTC Hero. Might’ve missed one) (oh yeah had an iPhone 5 from work. Couldn’t wait to exchange that (for the Note 4).

Dyskolos ,

Apple might be user-friendly, but that is kinda easy if you’re super restrictive. And the only one that produces their stuff. The worst thing about android is being so fragmented, not only in versions but also in makers. And some really put tons of their own shit on top of android. I hate it. Especially Samsung. The apple of android.

I also hate it to be stuck with googles pixels. They’re not only the purest but also, ironically, the easiest to root and, especially, un-google them with a different OS.

Simon , to memes in its true tho

Lol I can’t understand how you get so many upvotes but when I make a meme everybody’s like “what’s a stan???” Linux users are some of the most antisocial people on the planet.

h05 ,

what is a stan tho?

dependencyinjection ,

Go listen to Eminem. He explains it quite well.

Simon ,

It’s what you take when you’re not afraid

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

bruh

as a linux user I am embarrassed they didn’t know

vox , to memes in its true tho
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android’s at least open source

Cqrd ,

The base of it is, but you’re not buying a phone with a fully open source Android OS on it

AVengefulAxolotl ,

Sadly true, but still better than nothing

deaf_fish ,

Didn’t they change license at some point, so it’s no longer open source?

vox ,
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AOSP is licensed under Apache 2.0

(if you want to contribute back you must sign a CLA though)

flashgnash , to memes in its true tho

Do android stans exist? Had always thought android was the lesser of two evils for most people

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

its most definitely the lesser, but there are still many people who would suck off Samsung and Google if they had the opportunity to.

trust me I’ve met them

Appoxo ,
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Just as some Linux enthusiasts would from Mr. Torvalds.

It’s like with every other fandom: There are haters, normal folks, lovers and the pesky hyper-fan.
¯_(ツ)_/¯

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

Foss ftw baby

idunnololz ,
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What if I just like to suck.

Appoxo ,
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The good thing is: You (still) have free will.

neonspool ,

my unwillled physical direction of my neurons disagree

mostlikelyaperson ,

Oh yeah Android has swarms of fanboys.

flashgnash ,

I used to be one of those fanboys when I was younger, but that was driven more by the fact that they weren’t iPhones than anything particularly good about Android

Used to be a fan of OnePlus but they’ve become like every other phone company now from what I hear

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA , to lemmyshitpost in Oh no, anarchists!
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I find it really funny that every mutual aid group I’ve found has been very welcoming until you let them know you’re disabled. Regardless of how you’re willing or able to help. Good ol anarchists.

Lordbaum ,

I am Anarchist and can be counted as disabled (okay yes neuro diversity is a grey area) never happened to me.

toastal , to memes in its true tho

This is the reason you shouldn’t choose a chat platform that requires the using the mobile OS duopoly—get your friends off of LINE, WhatsApp, & Signal.

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

while I agree, signal is also on Linux and is a more polished alternative

Wilzax , (edited )

But it does require a cell phone number to get started, meaning your signal account is tied to your identity via your phone carrier

PolarisFx ,
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There are many services that will give you a temp number to sign up with for these services. I have many verified discord accounts, none of which are my actual phone number.

toastal ,

You still need an Android/iOS primary device… it’s not just a SIM situation IIRC

Catsrules ,

I don’t think you can use another number that isn’t the phone number tied to your device when you use Signal mobile app.

I have two phones and Signal refused to let ne sign in on phone a using phones b’s number.

PolarisFx ,
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This isn’t the site I normally use, but it’s another one:

grizzlysms.com/signal

You get a unique phone number, signal sends the activation text, you confirm the account. And they add the number to a blocklist so no one else can use that number and screw your account up. I’ve done it for Discord, Telegram & Signal. I have Signal running in Waydroid right now, without my phone number attached to it

wax ,

Got this update message in signal earlier this week. Nice to see them moving in the right direction, but I guess the initial signup still requires a phone number.

"Your phone number will no longer be visible to anyone on the latest version of Signal unless they have it saved in their phone’s contacts. You can change this in Settings.

A new privacy setting lets you control who can find you by your phone number on Signal.

You can now set and share an optional username to let people chat with you without giving them your phone number. "

Cultural_Hope , to memes in its true tho
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Trillion.

BolexForSoup , to memes in its true tho
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I honestly haven’t seen an “Apple fanboy” IRL in like 10 years lol I feel like that romantic image ended some form ago.

Still, great meme and very true lol

moon ,

You still get a lot of the old ‘android is for poor people’ narrative. Age and sub-culture also play a part.

Drake, one of the most commercially successful musicians in the past 15 years, released a song where he says he wouldn’t answer a call from a woman because she was calling him from an android.

That song came out just 6 months ago (Oct 2023) and was number one on the charts. A ton of young people will have heard that and been influenced on some level by it, so the Apple fanboy/android hater thing probably won’t be going away any time soon

BolexForSoup ,
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I get that but there’s a bit of a difference in status symbols/conspicuous consumption and “Apple fanboy” culture IMO. But again, I get what you mean.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

That’s also Drake and nobody respects him.

BolexForSoup ,
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I want this to be true lol

ReakDuck ,

Damn, in my school class… I thought we are all old enough but my class also consists of Narcisstic and Egocentric people.

BolexForSoup , (edited )
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I’ve written this a couple of times now, so this is gonna be the last one: it’s not about the wealth it displays, the conspicuous consumption.

Consider the term “Nintendo fanboy.” Do they buy it because of the image? To impress everybody that they own Nintendo products? No, they defend Nintendo and are staunch advocates of the company and their games, unwilling to be critical or consider where other companies/products might be better. They’re basically zealots for a product. Cost and what it says about your status are not top of mind.

There are people who buy Apple products for the social image, to flaunt wealth. That is not the same as the fanboy.

FiniteLooper ,

I think that’s because pretty much everything just happens on the internet now. Most specialized applications are either built cross platform or are a website, so it really doesn’t matter what you use that much. It’s just down to personal preference

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

damn I wish I lived where you lived

BolexForSoup , (edited )
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Fanboys are not the same as people flaunting wealth. I generally see fanboys as advocates for the product and its feature sets. There is no doubt a lot of people by iPhone because of the image of wealth it displays and because it’s an easy decision if you have disposable income from a “set it and forget it” standpoint. The green vs blue text nonsense illustrates that clearly.

It’s like buying designer handbags. They’re still functional handbags and you don’t have to think about it. But it’s primarily about what the brand says about you. I just don’t consider this the domain of “fanboys.” Like I don’t describe Nintendo fanboys as people who buy Nintendo to show off they own Nintendo products. They buy it because they are staunch advocates of Nintendo and its games, as well as generally unable to critique the company or any of its products, usually electing to constantly talk about how everyone else is terrible and Nintendo is perfect and loves them.

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

Fanboys are not the same as people flaunting wealth.

while they are not the same, a lot of people who use either Apple or Samsung are both, and will constantly fight against right to repair when they don’t know what they’re even talking about, for very stupid reasons, and constantly fight against open standards that are just better, like using type-c for their products, etc etc. these people buy iPhones for the image of wealth, I agree, but these same people also argue about its apps and ecosystem’s and argue that rich, trillion dollar companies are fine and pose no threat, because it is completely fine to be a monopoly and choke hold the industry. they defend their status symbol in every opportunity they get, and often times I’ve seen them make it personal, probably because its personal for them.

sometimes I see these same people who buy Apple as a show of “wealth,” get into those political arguments when they just have no idea what they’re talking about, because for some reason they want to defend the status symbol Apple or Samsing is even if it kills people and the planet.

That’s just my observation over the years.

BolexForSoup ,
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I’ve never heard someone fight against right to repair in my life. This is not challenging you, that’s just WILD to me

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

like I said I wish I lived where you lived

BolexForSoup ,
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I’m not loving the condescension here lol but ok

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

wdym condescension? sorry if I’m being rude that isn’t my intention

BolexForSoup ,
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Fair enough. Text is complicated, i probably read a more sarcastic tone where you weren’t intending. Have a good weekend my friend! (For real no tone implied lol)

pimeys ,

If you follow a certain orange website, until very recently there’s been a big group of apologists who protect the big and mighty if any bad news surfaced.

This has started to change, but the change is very recent. And in the startup ecosystem using a Mac is a standard and if you do not like them, you are considered weird and the latest social note keeping tool everybody else uses in the company has severe bugs on Linux, if it even works.

DakRalter ,
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I just had a colleague mock me (good naturedly) the other day for having an android phone. I just laughed and said, I’m no fan of Google but at least I can install what I want on here. That was the end of it, haha.

onion , to memes in its true tho

Android is FOSS tho

OpenStars ,
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Tell that to Google…

CausticFlames ,

Google having their own proprietary crap embedded in their version doesnt make AOSP not FOSS.

Thats the entirety of the basis for things like GrapheneOS, despite Google gobbling it up.

OpenStars ,
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Not technically no, though neither does it fully embrace the spirit of FOSS either. Anyway I was explaining the appearance of those two being at odds with one another in the meme. Anyone who does not enjoy meme content can simply block this community and move on with the serious side of life.:-)

KLISHDFSDF ,
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Correct me if I’m wrong but does FOSS not simply mean the following?

software that is available under a license that grants the right to use, modify, and distribute the software, modified or not, to everyone free of charge

source: Wikipedia

From my understanding AOSP’s license grants all those rights. I think what you might be opposed to is that it isn’t developed out in the open, which is a fair criticism.

Ephera , (edited )

Well, they wrote the “spirit of FOSS” and you pulled out a completely sterile definition, which has no spirit at all.

At the very least, even with that sterile definition, embracing the spirit would mean making all the software you’re distributing FOSS. Instead, Google has been doing all kinds of bundle deals and whatnot to ensure that most distributions of their FOSS software come with their proprietary parts.

However, going further in embracing the spirit, particularly the “free software” part of FOSS is idealistic. It doesn’t just fulfill that definition to fulfill that definition. Rather, it sees that definition as the baseline, to help ensure that the freedom of users is respected.

AOSP, despite being under an appropriate license, does not respect that freedom.
For example, many users would want their keyboard app (which has access to their typed passwords) to not have internet access. AOSP has a myriad of permissions, but not for internet access, since Google wants their ads to be displayed.

In theory, the license ensures that AOSP can be forked, and Custom ROMs do soft-fork it (i.e. make slight amendments to what Google puts out), but due to how much development Google puts into Android rather than there being a development community, it’s effectively not viable for anyone to truly hard-fork AOSP (i.e. take it into a new direction, independent from Google).

umbrella , (edited )
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it can always be forked as a project that does. this is part of the point of foss and why you should be using lineage or graphene instead if you care about this

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

yeah, again, just like Chromium technically speaking.

Let’s use the lesser, Foss version of Google’s product so they can continue to have a monopoly, so then later they can force you to install a proprietary blob or account apps or services need.

umbrella ,
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nothing lesser about grapheneos or lineageos at all.

but im all ears if you have a usable alternative for a foss phone.

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

nothing lesser about grapheneos or lineageos at all.

iirc there are problems with trying to use some mainstream apps on these operating systems. When I say lesser I don’t mean to demean them, I mean they’re the lesser used and not really known about alternative and thus not really supported unless you can live your life in f-droid which if so, kudos to you, you’re livin’ the dream.

but im all ears if you have a usable alternative for a foss phone.

postmarketos.org

umbrella ,
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postmarket is way more of a dream than fdroid rn.

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

yeah just like Chromium technically speaking

Artyom ,

Android is FOSS, but is your phone FOSS?

umbrella ,
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i use a foss rom, so its software is.

InvaderDJ , to memes in its true tho

Use what you like. Just like Windows, macOS and Linux for the vast majority of people, all these OSes are, are platforms to display apps and webpages. They all have sanded off most of the rough edges meaning that unless you have specific niche needs/wants, you’ll just use what is familar and be happy.

Life is too short to have deep feelings about an OS.

h3mlocke ,

Hush

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