Not Google, this has been added by the manufacturer of your phone. Probably they got too many complaints like “I disabled data and now there’s no internet” because average users don’t read what’s on screen
or more accurately users just have no grasp of what things come from. No shortage of times in tech support where I’ve heard things like “Yes I know the internet is down, I’m not trying to go to the internet I’m trying to go to facebook”.
I feel your pain - “Daaaaad! My internet’s on but I can’t get to YouTube” - but I feel this one’s a little less obvious than that. It’s not always apparent whether a given feature is stock OS or vendor specific.
I’m not able to reproduce this in my pixel 5, maybe Google removed this as a pixel exclusive feature? Or maybe because I used that adb command to separate the “internet” button in two buttons (WiFi and data)
Very much possible that Google changed it, since the buttons appear to be combined on Pixel devices. LineageOS and multiple other vendors definitely have it.
Close. It either natively runs well on Linux, or refund. No Proton, no Wine. Made natively for Linux and runs well, supporting X11 and that Wayland crap. Otherwise “gamers” will once again blame Linux… again. And there is nothing worse than whiny gamers blaming Linux.
Personally, if Wine/Proton is officially supported I am fine to pay. If they don’t support native Linux or official Wine/Proton support then I pass. I really don’t care what tools/libraries they use as long as the result is supported and the game runs well.
All games (theoretically) run on Linux – cloud gaming is a thing. Even if you may say “B-but muh input lag” its extremely doable and reliable as of now.
Germany has terrible internet service, so no, not everywhere. Also you would still need a cloud gaming provider that has servers close enough to your location that lag doesnt become an issue and actually offers that service in your country, which I’m not sure would be the case for all places
The only place I’ve seen it viable was in a speed test in Los Angeles on Verizon mmwave that achieved 6ms latency on input.
That’s in addition to the controller, bluetooth, and device input lag. This 6ms is experienced both in the video feedback and in the button presses.
In certain games this lag can hamper the experience. I know with 12-16ms ping I still hit cars and walls I shouldn’t have in driving games which I figured would be the easiest to stream.
Maybe fiber could achieve a less perceptible latency, but I can’t imagine that rolling out faster than some people will be able to render it natively on a low end device.
Do we know the data centers are rendering the games on Linux? It’s entirely possible they spin up ephemeral stripped down windows vms to host the sessions.
This. My current connection is the most speed I’ve ever had and the most you can get in my area without spending a ton on business class, but cloud gaming is atrocious at best. I’m not gonna move to the city so I can get gigabit for a half decent price while spending 4 or 5 times more on housing.
For me Linux gaming is Steam/Proton. If is works with Steam/Proton, I am playing them. I find that native Linux games are not updated regularly or at all. And Steam wants games to run with the Steam deck. And they are willing work to make that happen.
And game companies know there are a lot of Steam decks out there. And it is not hard to put some effort to see that it runs on that equipment.
All this is a big help for the Linux community. Many gamers don't know that they don't need to buy windows to game. Linux/Steam/Proton is a great option. That is why I make a point to tell people that I am playing Baldur's Gate 3 on my Linux Ubuntu gaming PC. This is how I found out that Linux can play games and switch from Windows. Another Linux gamer told me it was possible.
@Hairyblue@Uluganda yeah I care less about a Linux native game than a game that has DRM and anti cheat that works with proton. I’ve found that all the games I play on Linux that run on proton run so well on X11 (haven’t gone to Wayland yet).
Considering wine and thus proton don’t support Wayland the games will just run through XWayland so should perform the same as on X11. Personally haven’t encountered any issues outside of things that are caused by X11 limitations
If there is one, I tend to use the native Linux version when I can, just to do my miniscule part to encourage devs to support native Linux, though on one or two games I have noticed bugs in the native Linux version that were fixed in the Windows/Proton version. That said, I am still quite thankful and impressed with how well Proton works for anything I use it with.
As someone new to Linux the fact that I could just check a box on steam and suddenly I could install and run the witcher 3 blew my mind. I had no idea. Last I checked on Linux gaming the solution was install windows 😂
Agreed. It’s just so sad to me that GOG to this day does not seem to understand their target audience. Seems to me that people who value DRM-free Games overlap vastly with the group of Linux users and still GOG Galaxy is not available on Linux. I would absolutely love GOG Galaxy natively on Linux with Proton integration. Sure we can run it with Lutris etc. but this has been asked from GOG for years. I tried buying everything on GOG instead of Steam until that point where that whole Proton and Steam Deck integration happened. Now I buy everything on steam, just for convenience. I would love to buy everything from GOG but there are just to many hoops to jump through.
Yes I think you’re right, there’s probably a significant overlap in the target audience of GOG and Linux users. I guess the reason why GOG hasn’t released a Linux version of GOG Galaxy might be because a large portion of their catalogue is Windows and doesn’t want to include something like Proton or Wine support. I don’t think it absolves them from criticism however.
I have a Motorola Moto G Stylus 5G (2022). Never got this pop-up before I upgraded to Android 13. Perhaps it’s Motorola trying to assert dominance then.
Yeah I can’t play rainbow 6 siege since I switched to Linux but I’m staying strong. Fuck ubisoft. And fuck my friends for trying to make me go back to windoz.
And apex legends started randomly banning Linux users again, how hard is it to fix the game that earns them millions of dollars every year? Unbelievable.
Because they’re not earning those millions from users. I have no data to back this up, but I’m sure even the Linux users that do play are less likely to spend money on the game.
Off topic but your username looks different in my inbox. It says Nate here but in my inbox is says alphapuggle. Btw I’m using eternity for lemmy might be a bug on the app.
I had a heck of a time trying to get It Takes Two to work on my machine. Apparently every game that launches the EA App from Steam is broken now and needs a custom fix using ProtonTricks.
These are sadly the kind of issues that scare people away from Linux gaming. The stuff that works, works great. But when something is not supported, it can be a real pain to find a fix.
Looking at Destiny. Game worked okay on Linux before they integrated Battleye, which HAS Linux support, but Bungie just doesn't want to interact with it.
This is why it’s mainly larger developers that care about their community that implement Linux support. Take valve for example. Wonderful company that cares about their playerbase more than the average game development team. They have Linux support on almost all of their games as far as I am aware. Bungie is a decent company but most of their community doesn’t want to play on Linux anyway, so they won’t bother with it. However most teams that are smaller or care more about money than players won’t do it.
Valve is definitely an exception. I am not sure why, but it is pretty much in the open that Gabe Newell has a bone to pick with Microsoft and he has been throwing money at Linux for over a decade to break their monopoly on gaming. I’d argue that this has nothing to do with their love for the community and more so with Gabe’s personal vendetta against Microsoft.
Reality is that most game devs, most executives and most people in marketing don’t really care about Linux. It is good PR to support Mac and Linux, and some of the geekier developers will go the extra mile to support it, but I think it is common in the industry to assume that Linux users are not gamer, or that they have enough knowledge to install a dual boot. They don’t care in the sense that they don’t even think about it, its not even on the radar for most game companies. Most studios probably never even had a discussion about it. That is how irrelevant Linux has been to gaming. Hence why Proton is such a tour de force.
I respect that as true, but every console other than XBox is either Linux or BSD based; at a certain point learning to work with alternative platforms is just good business practice.
In an ideal world everything would work out, but for some business it is a pretty huge commitment for what was less than 2% of the market just a few months ago. We certainly lost money porting our game in Linux at that last place I worked. It was before Proton though. Obviously each case is different, and some games work on Linux out-the-box due to Photon so this become a non-issue.
Not sure I want to name the game because this would make me very easy to identify from my post history. It’s a game on Steam that sold over 250k copies. My boss promised a Linux version very early on because they thought it would be easy, but we ended up being stuck with that promise.
I find that to be an annoying thing with Japanese software in general, gaming or otherwise: more proprietary garbage than Western software and practically hard-coding it to 100% force you to use the software in the way THEY intend for you to use it, not how YOU want. Makes for worse Linux compatibility at best, if any at all, compared to Western software. Note that I’m purely talking about native or straight Wine Linux compatibility, not Steam/Proton, which works around those issues well.
From my own experience, “not bothering” is definitely the better business practice since chances are you won’t make back the development costs.
Maybe Steam Deck and that porting library have improved things but a decade ago it would have been better business to just give Linux users $20 to not play your game.
I believe the PS5 is partially based off of FreeBSD and I don’t think there is as strong of a gaming scene on BSD (even relative to the size of its userbase). I feel like there would be some rather large leaps going from a tailored console OS to a more widely available alternative OS.
There are plenty of games that are very specifically targeting Proton compatibility at a very minimum thanks to the Steam Deck, so I’m perfectly happy with any game that’s developed with that in mind.
Being verified on Steam Desk is my parameter for deciding if I’ll consider a game or not, even if I don’t have a Steam Deck (yet). I’m perfectly fine with that, not asking for a Linux native version as long as the game works as it should on Proton.
Verified is probably a stricter metric than you need/want. Many games aren’t verified just because of font-size issues and the like on the small screen.
I'm on Linux Mint right now and when I go my library and toggle the "Show only games that run on Linux" button, nothing happens. I don't think Valve cares about the distinction, so long as it runs.
if you have proton enabled the library shows all games as linux compatible. If you disable proton in the steam settings on linux the filter will only show games that run natively
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