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DingoBilly , to linuxmemes in Backdoors

Immediately noticed even though the packages have been out for over a month?

Easily could have stolen a ton of information in that month.

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah but tbf it was deployed on mostly rolling release and beta releases.

No enterprise on prod is worried because they’re still on RHEL 6 /s

DingoBilly ,

Yeah they got lucky. But shows how susceptible systems are. Really makes you wonder how many systems are infected with similar - this wouldn’t be the first back door that’s live in Linux systems.

kopasz7 ,

Why the /s? We are migrating our host to RHEL7 since months.

vrighter ,

we’ve skipped 7 and are jumping straight to 8. The process has been going on for two years now. 9 was released 2 years ago

anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Ours goes to 11.

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

My innocent home lab bum thought 4 years would be enough to assume people got off of an EOLd distro lol

hash0772 ,

On what? Servers using Arch Linux? Debian Unstable? Fedora 40?

DingoBilly ,

Phew, thankfully everyone follows appropriate procedures and doesn’t just roll out beta updates to production in their systems.

Right?

hash0772 ,

I hope so lol. At that point that is natural selection though.

heyfrancis , to linuxmemes in Backdoors
@heyfrancis@mastodon.social avatar
lemmyreader OP ,

related blog - robmensching.com/…/a-microcosm-of-the-interaction…

Make no mistake. This is the way it works.

It needs to change.

Agreed.

Draegur , to linuxmemes in Backdoors

i feel like the mental gymnastics should end with a rake step

anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Queensbury Rules init.

melpomenesclevage ,

Init as in 'contraction of "isnt it”’? Or as in ‘initialize’?

veganpizza69 ,
@veganpizza69@lemmy.world avatar

It’s about the complex rationalizations used to create excuses (pretexts).

The original is this:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/dbbc96fa-c180-472b-ab49-9ae079dc479c.webp

summerof69 ,

Lmao this is the first time I’m seeing this format, I like the content so far.

grrgyle ,

Wow this is great

melpomenesclevage ,

I feel like that’s really crappy non-vegan mental gymnastics. I think veganism is morally superior, but I really want to show mine off, just because I’m offended by how stupid all these are-the fact I know they’re real makes me more ashamed of eating that yogurt earlier than any amount of chatt slavery or butchery ever will.

johannesvanderwhales ,

Alright I won’t argue about that specific version’s point, but this is basically a template for constructing a strawman argument.

neidu2 , to memes in "Cancel Culture"

Decades? Try centuries.

Sunforged ,

A god damned millenia.

someguy3 ,

Two god damned millennia.

finickydesert ,
@finickydesert@lemmy.ml avatar

why is god damming us for so long?! /s

DmMacniel ,

Because of the Original Sin. He is a fricking jealous and petty god.

DmMacniel ,

Because of the Original Sin. He is a fricking jealous and petty god.

Anticorp ,

All of written history TBH. Other religions did the same thing before Christianity.

ODuffer , (edited )
@ODuffer@lemmy.world avatar

Cancelling, try torture and butchering.

devfuuu ,

Just 2 centuries around here having inquisition in place made sure no other alternatives exist nowadays. Genocide is effective kids. Learn from History.

Haus ,
@Haus@kbin.social avatar

"Ikr?" - Galileo Galilei

Anticorp ,

Galileo Figaro

FrostyTrichs , to memes in "Cancel Culture"
@FrostyTrichs@sh.itjust.works avatar

See also: man gets shot, how could he do this.meme

Wait until they go broke buying trump bibles only to bemoan the lack of social welfare and health programs they continually try to kill.

BolexForSoup ,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

If there’s anything Suzerain taught me over the last few days it’s that sometimes you have to pull an Urdnot Wrex and drag the ignorant forward before their own short sighted self interest gets everyone killed.

Yes I really enjoyed making two video game references lol

Sotuanduso , to programmerhumor in Are you comfortable with front-end or backend?

You wanna work weekends?

Kit ,

No, but it inevitably happens all the fucking time

perishthethought ,

Just happened on Friday

Coworker: client says they need this problem solved by Monday. Can we hop on a call this weekend?

Me: Why exactly do they need this solved by Monday?

Coworker: uhhhh…

Yeah no. Talk to you on Monday.

sbv ,

The higher up I go, the more I ask why. And the more often “eh, I guess next release will be fine” is the answer.

xmunk ,

Just say no! You deserve to enjoy your weekend and you should never work without at least time in lieu.

sorrybookbroke ,

Hello [XMunk], we’d like to thank you for your time here at this company and we understand this may come as a surprise but due to the current corporate ‘right sizing’ the company is undertaking we are sad to inform you of the cessation of your responsibilities. We wish you the best in your future endeavours and hope in the future you may rejoin our family. Due to internal performance reviews we understand that you are not eligable for severance benefits, but if you sign the attached forms we will be happy to help you out in receiving your Vacation pay.

Our best, BookBrokeCorp

xmunk ,

Awesome, I look forward to my four months of severance!

electricprism ,

There is a rule, meetings will take up as much time as there is, so if you don’t put a cap on it, it will be hours not 30 minuets.

The same rule applies to work schedule planning, you will work weekends unless you plan not to.

And you will raise respect of you when you just say no you have already promised the time to the misses or someone else of importance.

lemmylem ,

Jobs that only do weekdays are such a blessing, I hated working rotating shift!

DragonTypeWyvern , to memes in "Cancel Culture"

“Christians”

BorgDrone ,
teejay ,

Why is this getting upvoted? OP is using irony. The No True Scotsman fallacy requires refuting a counterexample as well as “The modification is signalled by the use of non-substantive rhetoric such as “true”, “pure”, “genuine”, “authentic”, “real”, etc.” Check out the “Occurrence” section.

Y’all people need internet meme remediation.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Why is this getting upvoted?

Because there are people who really don’t like how right wing conservative Christians behave, but also for some reason hate when other Christians agree that the behaviour is unacceptable and call them out on it.

EndlessApollo ,

You’re not calling out shit. You’re refusing any responsibility by claiming they’re not even really Christian. They are, and until you admit that, nobody gives a fuck about your claims to the contrary. Christians can be shit, that doesn’t make them not Christian you absolute dingus. If you’d actually read the Bible you’d know that slavery and homophobia and sexism are as fundamentally Christian as any love thy neighbor shit

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Republicans: Act in hateful ways

Guy: “That behavior is contrary to the book you claim to follow”

Everyone: cheers

Christian: “I agree!”

You: “nO tRuE sCoTsMaN!!!1!”

EndlessApollo ,

???

You suck at telling stories like this lmao, you’re the one no true scotsmaning shitty Christians to try and avoid any flak for being associated with them. Legit this comment is utterly incomprehensible, tf is your point? Who’s guy? Who’s everyone? I assure you far from everyone thinks that republicans aren’t real Christians

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Let me simplify it for you:

The argument that everyone who claims to be a Christian is a Christian, and also every Christian belongs to the same group and is responsible for the actions of everyone who claims to be a Christian, is patently absurd.

You can have two people with wildly different beliefs, but if they both use the label Christian somehow they are both responsible for the actions of each other.

EndlessApollo ,

Those people also call themselves Christian tho, and probably call you a fake Christian. That’s a big thing in Christianity, insisting that your brand of it is the only valid one. Yall are silly as hell, admit that there are shitty christians or accept that we don’t give a shit about your half ass condemnations of shitty christians

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Okay: there are shitty Christians.

Now what? Do I now have permission to call out their shitty behaviour and not somehow be responsible for it myself?

EndlessApollo , (edited )

You can and absolutely should call them out. You can call them fake Christians if you want I guess, but that’s not really calling them out, it’s clear you’re just saying it to make yourself look better. No matter what your take on them is, I know for a fact that they’re Christian, and you trying to cut them off from yourself like that just makes me think you’re a lot closer to them than you’re letting on. I can hardly think of any times I’ve seen Muslims deny that the Taliban are real Muslims, or Jews deny that zionists are real Jews. Why is it so hard for Christians to do the same?

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

You can call them fake Christians if you want I guess

Okay, so we agree that if someone says “This behaviour is not in line with the teaching of Christianity” then someone responding with just the words “No True Scotsman” is stupid, useless, and contrary to the point?

you trying to cut them off from yourself like that just makes me think you’re a lot closer to them than you’re letting on

“You trying to say your beliefs are not they same as their beliefs makes me think… you have the same beliefs”? How does that logic hold up? Someone directly saying “They are not representative of what I believe” means they ARE representative somehow?

I can hardly think of any times I’ve seen Muslims deny that the Taliban are real Muslims

Here you go: www.reddit.com/r/islam/comments/…/k0h6q7z/

or Jews deny that zionists are real Jews

Here you go: www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/…/not_a_real_jew/

EndlessApollo ,

Their behavior isn’t in line with your brand of Christianity, it very much is in line with theirs. Just because you think you and your church are the only actual Christians doesn’t make that the case.

“How does that logic hold up?” If you really didn’t like them, you’d just denounce them, straight up. You wouldn’t be so desperate to make sure we know that not only are they shitty, but you specifically have nothing to do with them in any way. You’re both Christian, this is a fact that you can’t weasel your way out of no matter how badly you wish you could. Continuing to pretend otherwise turns your denouncement into hollow self praise.

If you don’t have anything new to contribute besides flapping your arms harder about how they’re not really Christian, I’m done replying. I hope you get better at actually, meaningfully opposing the evil parts of your religion instead of simply distancing yourself from them

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Their behavior isn’t in line with your brand of Christianity, it very much is in line with theirs. Just because you think you and your church are the only actual Christians doesn’t make that the case.

And here I thought we were making progress when you said

You can call them fake Christians if you want I guess

Don’t know why you’re suddenly walking that back.

If you really didn’t like them, you’d just denounce them, straight up.

In what way is “They’re not Christians” not a denouncement, straight up? It is literally, directly saying, “How they behave does not reflect what I understand Christianity to be in any way.” How can a Christians denounce their behaviour more than by saying “I don’t consider them to be Christian”?

Denounce: verb
publicly declare to be wrong or evil.

Publicly saying “They call themselves Christians and they are wrong” is the dictionary definition of denouncement.

You’re both Christian, this is a fact that you can’t weasel your way out of no matter how badly you wish you could.

What is the definition of Christian? If it’s “anyone who claims to be Christian” then the definition is so broad as to be completely meaningless. “You’re both Christian” is just as relevant as saying “your both American.” So unless every American is responsible for the shitty behaviour of any other American, it makes no sense for every person who calls themselves a Christian to be responsible for the shitty behaviour of anyone else who calls themselves a Christian.

People are literally publicly saying “I do not agree with any of their beliefs or behaviours”, what more would you have them say?

DragonTypeWyvern ,
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,
CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

If I call myself a Scotsman, despite not meeting the definition of a Scotsman (never been to Scotland, have no Scottish heritage) then it would be fair to call me not a “True Scotsman.”

If the definition of “Christian” is “someone who follows the teachings of Jesus” then someone who spreads hate does not meet that definition.

If the definition of “Christian” is “anyone who calls themselves a Christian” then the definition is so broad it is useless as a descriptor. It includes someone who is loving and caring, and someone who abuses and murders anyone they disagree with. It tells you nothing about the individual or how they behave.

BorgDrone ,

If the definition of “Christian” is “someone who follows the teachings of Jesus”

If that’s your definition then there are no Christians.

oatscoop ,

Dolly Parton

BorgDrone ,

I don’t think Dolly Parton hates her family.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

If that’s your definition then there are no Christians.

Ok, so you’re going with the word is useless as a descriptor.

BorgDrone ,

No, I’m saying that christians are people who claim to be christian.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

No, I’m saying that christians are people who claim to be christian.

As I said, useless as a descriptor. By that definition the word “Christian” includes someone who donates time to charities, as well as someone who spreads hate about immigrants, wants them sent back to their own countries, and wants to bomb those countries.

The word “Christian” could be applied to a person that wants to take away a woman’s right to medical care, and to a person that is pro-choice.

Hell, the word “Christian” could apply to someone who has never set foot inside a church, has never seen a Bible, and has no idea what’s even in it, as long as they “claim they are a Christian.”

By that definition if I tell you someone is a Christian it doesn’t tell you if that person loves Trans people or hates them. As I said, a useless descriptor.

drmeanfeel ,

Incredibly convenient thing for “polite Christians” (read: enablers) to say while the overwhelmingly powerful structure borne of their freely given money, time, and prejudices ruins the country.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Replace the word “Christian” with “American” and your statement is just as valid.

drmeanfeel ,

Never fails, Christians (ostensibly “”““real””“” ones lol) always go to this, such a convenient out for rancid, unserious, responsibility denying dingdongs

Olgratin_Magmatoe ,
queue ,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar
  • Attend Churches where pastors and preachers proselytize about anything "Sinful"
  • Call themselves Christian proudly
  • Wears crosses
  • Says its forbidden by God to do something that the Bible says is bad
  • Uses the words of Saint Paul to expand on those words

Damn that sounds like they are Christian, but you know, I guess they’re “not true Christians” because they happen to do everything on Saturday instead of Sunday, or don’t wash the feet of the poor, or something else that caused a schism 200 years ago.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Weird. None of that actually mentions Jeeeeeeesus or the things he supposedly said and did.

Weird how all the hate comes from things the apparent Son of God didn’t do, but they chose to believe in those things instead.

It’s like they’re hypocrites. False shepards.

Fake Christians.

EndlessApollo ,

This staunch denial of any responsibility for other shitty Christians is why nobody likes or respects you. Do something about other hateful Christians, don’t just fucking deny that they exist. Pathetic

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Lol, because I’m a Christian. Good spot, Sherlock.

I definitely don’t consider all theists basically non-sentient.

EndlessApollo ,

Oh, so you’re just a troll who wants to piss everyone off. You were kinda doing an OK job, but now it’s way too obvious. I hope this shit gets tired for you some day💖

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Sure bro. Because there aren’t atheists who have noticed the discrepancy between the messaging in the Gospel, the rest of the Bible, and what parts bigots love to point to and what they love to ignore, and they can’t possibly think some kinds of theists are worse than others

Ya clown.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Jesus: Love thy neighbour

These people: act in ways that is the opposite of loving their neighbour

Sure as fuck sounds like they aren’t following the teaching of Jesus. Going to a church doesn’t make someone a Christian any more than going to my garage makes me a mechanic.

citrusface , to lemmyshitpost in FF Evangelists

they’re right tho

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah. Use Firefox or kiss a free Internet goodbye.

DahGangalang ,

I worry even Firefox is losing its principles on the matter.

programmer_belch ,
@programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Then use a firefox fork that’s more in line with your beliefs. It’s a pro of open source

ichbinjasokreativ ,

chromium is open source too.

joyjoy ,

But Chrome, the actual application you download (as well as several forks), is closed source.

ichbinjasokreativ ,

Agreed. I just wanted to point out that you can have open source with a chromium based browser

grue ,

But that’s not the real issue. The issue is that any Chromium-based browser – open source or not – helps Google maintain hegemony over web standards. Even if makers of other Chromium-based browsers try to maintain a fork of the rendering engine, they’ll be perpetually playing catch-up removing user-hostile misfeatures because Google controls the upstream branch.

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Google still has control over Chromium. Manifest v3 is a Chromium thing, not a Chrome thing. All forks of Chromium will get it and none of the browsers using Chromium as a base has moved to fork and maintain their own version of Chromium.

This means that Google effectively has a monopoly over all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko based, which is a tiny portion of all browsers. Leading to Google deciding how people access the internet. It’s already worrying that Google is the internet for a lot of people, the fact that they can do more or less anything with Chromium means that they can do whatever they want with the web standard.

That should be a major concern for everyone. Chromium needs to be taken away from Google.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko

I don’t get this part. Are all engines other than those 2, based on Chromium?

Perhaps you are forgetting Ze great Konqueror ?

Because it has always been KHTML.There’s a meme for that. Check it out

xe3 ,

I think Konquerer is no longer actively maintained.

Fun fact (which you may already know) the two most popular browser engines today are based on KHTML)

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

I feel this.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Yeah I think so.

Their quest for a revenue stream is leading them down a dark path imo.

I mean I get that they need money. I don’t really have a solution. I just feel very uneasy about where this is headed.

exscape ,

I'm never giving it up out of principle, but I dunno about the RAM usage. Firefox was above 7GB last I looked. I have RAM to spare though, so I don't really care.

Klaymore ,
@Klaymore@sh.itjust.works avatar

There’s a Tab Discarder extension that suspends old tabs so they’re stored on the drive rather than ram.

NightAuthor ,

Damn… is this why I feel so empty inside? I’m using Firefox but no tail plug or furry action?

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

I mean if all you need is a cork to stop feeling empty

Scubus ,

Yeah tailplugs are awesome

JoMiran , to programmerhumor in Are you comfortable with front-end or backend?
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Sounds like sexual harassment.

CanadaPlus ,

Lol yes, I was expecting a very different joke.

Gemini24601 , to lemmyshitpost in FF Evangelists
@Gemini24601@lemmy.world avatar

My favorite part of Firefox is Ublock Origin.

BleakBluets ,
@BleakBluets@lemmy.world avatar

Mine is the tail plug, but UO is a strong second.

Diplomjodler ,

Does the plug get sent to you automatically or do you have to register somewhere?

BleakBluets ,
@BleakBluets@lemmy.world avatar

I was browsing for plug-ins and extensions and after I installed a bunch, it just appeared.

nudnyekscentryk ,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

Which is unavailable on Chrome?..

Empricorn ,

Does it work flawlessly on Android, iOS, and desktop? I’m really asking, because I ditched Chrome when it was less shitty than it currently is…

Waffelson ,

mobile Kiwi browser supports desktop chrome extension but has only android version

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

All iOS browsers have to use Webkit (or did last time I checked). So there’s not much of a point of running Firefox on iOS. It’s basically the same browser no matter what browser it says it is.

RidderSport ,

Isn’t the EU in the process of killing that Webkit-necessity?

nudnyekscentryk ,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

It is, but Apple being Apple, they are going all malicious compliance and will break evening else for non-Safari browsers lol

Also this only applies in EU. To use 3rd party apps stores you won’t be able to leave the EU for more than 30 days at a time as well

Gemini24601 ,
@Gemini24601@lemmy.world avatar

The Orion browser for iOS is capable of using Firefox and Chrome extensions, although support can be a little spotty. Ublock works quite well though.

maccentric ,

If it still works, I believe it has been neutered

nudnyekscentryk ,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

It works 100% still as far as I can tell (my parents use Chrome with BO)

maccentric ,

Till June, when Google starts dropping support for manifest V2 and you’ll have to use uBO lite.

nudnyekscentryk ,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

I still firmly believe there is at least one sane engineer there who’ll discourage this, knowing this will drive the last few tech-savvy users and their family members and close friends away and I will die on this hill

xe3 ,

Google is in the process of undermining the effectiveness of uBlock Origin and other adblockers on Chrome and other Chromium browsers. I believe that change comes into effect this year.

But even before those changes were announced, uBlock Origin’s creator and main dev has stated that uBO is most capable on Firefox.

Carrolade , to memes in "Cancel Culture"

No, it’s “shunning” when they do it. It’s “cancel culture” when other people do it.

Proper manipulation of language is key to fighting a culture war.

finickydesert , to memes in When people tell you who they are, listen.
@finickydesert@mastodon.social avatar

@Grayox i am batman

sag , to lemmyshitpost in FF Evangelists

Komi can communicate??

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Komi gonna rip into your furry ass

joyjoy ,

Through text.

rickyrigatoni , to lemmyshitpost in FF Evangelists

people don’t complain to get solutions, they complain so everyone knows how miserable they are

KillingTimeItself ,

and to shame people into making a solution, hopefully.

Or at least that’s what we tell ourselves. Because it makes us feel better.

minibyte ,

Sympathy for the devil.

TimeSquirrel , to memes in "Cancel Culture"
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Anyone up for some D&D?

DrSleepless ,

Man, my friend got all his D&D stuff taken away in 1984, he bought new stuff and left it at my house, which was fine by me as he said I could use it even if he wasn’t around.

octopus_ink ,

For anyone who isn’t aware of the Satanic Panic, this was a pretty fun time to be a D&D player:

gizmodo.com/a-brief-history-of-satanic-panic-in-t…

gizmodo.com/how-we-won-the-war-on-dungeons-dragon…

AnarchoNoAdjective ,

I believe the culture war junk is part of distract and divide tactics. ‘hey parents don’t worry about all the bloodshed from neoliberal policies, your kids are summoning demons!’

creamed_eels ,

That’s why I wear my “Let’s summon demons!” shirt at every opportunity.

oatscoop ,

You can’t just mention D&D and Satanic Panic without sharing the Chick Tract.

octopus_ink ,

:D I absolutely should have. I think I had at least a half dozen of these specific ones in physical form at one point back in the day.

Edit: Last time this came up I learned of this. 😀 youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNYxu1LqkyT3Ihj7l2n2WS…

Got_Bent ,

I love that there’s a reference to the Tom Hanks classic Mazes and Monsters in there.

Funny thing about the eighties. I was absolutely forbidden from playing dungeons and dragons but was totally allowed to play wizardry, Ultima, and bards tale.

Explain that parental logic.

I do feel I missed out. Never did get to play the real deal.

octopus_ink ,

I think tabletop gaming and D&D are having a renaissance in recent years - I bet you could find folks to play with easier than you think.

I haven’t played in decades myself, but my son does, and so does a good friend of mine (who is even older than me) and his kids, and seemingly half the people I know.

I would theoretically love to play, but I have other life circumstances that have required me to cut gaming time of any kind to 0 for awhile.

You should give it a shot if you can!

I love that there’s a reference to the Tom Hanks classic Mazes and Monsters in there.

That’s been on my rewatch list for awhile. I don’t think I’ve seen it since it was new. One of these days… :)

Hackerman_uwu ,

Only if we can listen to a Judas Priest record backwards.

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