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nivenkos , to asklemmy in Have you been stolen from?

Yeah, had a drug dealer burgle our apartment (just an opportunistic thing, spare keys had been left outside by a friend who was moving). Fortunately no-one was in, but it sucked to have to deal with all the damage and security.

We eventually tracked them down when they sold some stuff though and they were actually arrested and we got a few things back.

It was awesome the police actually raided them. Unfortunately the new government released them as prisoners with “non-violent” offences.

cashmaggot OP ,

I had a friend who made bad life choices and while I love them, they are most def not in my life anymore. They stayed up with a dealer and smoked a bunch of shit. The dealer, who is in one of the best pictures I've ever taken in my life by the by I think bitterly, proceeded to steal everything from this person. They met up while we were on a walk, and while my buddy used to buy weed off this person they started doing harder and harder drugs. But that's all to say this fuck-face magee stole everything they could from my buddy. They no longer could do their work, which was remote. They ended up homeless and got ultra fucked (literally and figuratively) while on the streets. I had just moved away, or else I woulda helped. But who the hell knows what that woulda brought in to my life. Sigh.

But fuck drug dealers. Most of them are total fucking assholes. I am glad you got the fkers. Surprised they got off, considering what they probably had around.

p.s. - This wasn't some tab shit btw. This was smoke up a lotta stuff and then gank kinda stuff.

Crashumbc , to mildlyinfuriating in This scam is approved and doesn't go against Google's policies

Facebook is the same, I still report the ads and scam videos, but never expect anything to come of it.

half_built_pyramids , to fediverse in Out of curiosity why is BeeHaw defederated from shitjustworks?

Like a plunger, always bringing up old shit

FundMECFSResearch OP ,

Are you insulting me? Or insulting BeeHaw mods?

half_built_pyramids ,

Notice there’s no piracy community

FundMECFSResearch OP ,

what are you on about, your instance is defederated from dbzr

nivenkos , to fediverse in Out of curiosity why is BeeHaw defederated from shitjustworks?

BeeHaw went full Reddit powermod level of power-tripping.

Lost_My_Mind ,

So you’re saying it would be fun to show up on beehaw, flip everyone the finger, and leave.

Blaze ,

Please don’t, they are nice people, they just prefer to stay small

seathru ,
@seathru@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

If that’s what truly brings you joy; I’m sure they would be accepting.

I mean, you’d likely get banned. But I doubt there would be any lingering hard feelings.

Elevator7009 ,

Not sure them just defederating to stay small and to be able to handle all the reports, if I recall correctly, is the same thing as making arbitrary decisions in order to feel powerful.

prex , to showerthoughts in The appearance of your letter spam depends on your keyboard layout.
Caboose12000 ,

Why would the spider text first in this scenario?

Interstellar_1 OP ,
@Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It’s probably trying to gain Cueball’s trust.

meekah ,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

I suppose it was a human typing at first, and the dog barking because it saw a huge spider. Then during the struggle, the keyboard mashing happened, including the sending of the message. Then the spider tries to play it off.

Nemo , to nostupidquestions in Why is there no sense of "camaderie" in the workplace?

I don’t really consider someone a friend until we’ve shared a meal. Some places lend themselves more to that than others.

olorin99 , to asklemmy in Have you been stolen from?
@olorin99@kbin.earth avatar

Back in primary school someone stole one of my bakugan out of my bag. It was the snake trap which folded into a cylinder instead of a sphere like the normal ones. So sad.

SuspiciousCatThing ,

Ohhh that takes me back. I forgot all about those. I wasn’t really interested in them, but kids at my school were. I’d steal them from stores and trade them for stuff I actually wanted.

I always played with them a tiny bit before I’d trade them. They were pretty neat. Lots of different shapes. I have no idea how they were actually meant to be used. Hard nostalgia wave, though.

cashmaggot OP ,

Legitimately, while I write all this fuck thieves shit I will say that when I was a kid I sometimes got cheap stuff from a "friend" (who's name i sitll remember probably on account of being one of the only people around with green eyes, let alone being black with green eyes). He would always bring me stuff and trade me for things or if I had a little cash I could buy it. I later realized (much, much later) that he was stealing it from ???? but I def had a cd player from him and rocked it for like...fifteen years? So in one sense that's pretty cool, but in another it is a =(!

cashmaggot OP ,

I had Utena cards, freakin' UTENA CARDS. That someone once stole. Who wants Utena cards? At leaast way back when? Nobody but this bitch. Yet someone else took them and lord knows did what with them. But yeah, I feel this.

Socsa , to mildlyinfuriating in Youtube's web UX team is a joke.

I have literally never experienced this.

Croquette ,

Pretty much all of google products do that. I have to work with gsuite, and when you go to chat, you click on the person you want to talk to, start typing as you see the box, but then, for whatever reason, it switches to a search on the right, or bring you back to the chat home page.

On YouTube, you see a video, you click on it and then for whatever fucking reason, the video moves right and you click on a dumb ad or a video you don’t want to watch. Go back once and the video isn’t there anymore.

It’s a shit show

eldavi , to asklemmy in Have you been stolen from?

my father gave me a lesson once when my bike was stolen when i was a child. he told me that they did it because they felt they had to; not because they wanted to target me and that remaining angry about it was unproductive because they will never know nor care.

i try to apply that same lesson every time someone wrongs me.

cashmaggot OP ,

That's some good stuff. Like it's on them. It's why I try not to get upset if someone's having a mood swing or something. Cause that's on them, not me. But it can be harder to practice the more toes that get stepped on.

mranachi , to asklemmy in How to get rid of the Indian curse?

Things change slowly then all at once.

Which is to say, the older generations are very set in their ways, but the new generations can be completely different.

You say you can write a book, maybe you should. Detail all the things you see and don’t like. Give me a voice to the people who think like you.

Anonymous_TorPerson OP , (edited )
@Anonymous_TorPerson@lemmy.ml avatar

You say you can write a book, maybe you should

Ohh… I have thought about that, but India is not a country which takes criticism lightly. They will immediately say I am funded by Pakistan, Soros or by the enemies of the state and if the book is even published, it will gain me infamy making me immediately unemployable for anything else. It’s no joke being an author in India.

They have jailed people for reporting on UP schools serving bread with salt and this is not an outlier, journalists are in constant danger here.

edit: Read up the Broadcasters bill, I just read about this and this is 1984 level shit.

mranachi ,

I can’t say I know what I’d do if I were in your situation. But many people throughout history have chosen to write those books, and they have suffered for that choice, but they have also driven change.

Moah , to science_memes in Breast Cancer
@Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ok, I’ll concede. Finally a good use for AI. Fuck cancer.

ilinamorato ,

It’s got a decent chunk of good uses. It’s just that none of those are going to make anyone a huge ton of money, so they don’t have a hype cycle attached. I can’t wait until the grifters get out and the hype cycle falls away, so we can actually get back to using it for what it’s good at and not shoving it indiscriminately into everything.

Cethin ,

Also, for GPU prices to come down. Right now the AI garbage is eating a lot of the GPU production, as well as wasting a ton of energy. It sucks. Right as the crypto stuff started dying out we got AI crap.

Tja ,

Yeah, fuck that detecting cancer crap, I want to game!

Cethin ,

You missed that we were talking about the useless AI garbage, didn’t you? I guess humans can also put out garbage…

Tja ,

What article is this comment section about?

Cethin ,

Right, I forgot we’re only allowed to talk about one thing per thread. Sorry.

Tja ,

Precisely

ilinamorato ,

GPU price hikes are causing problems outside of the gaming industry, too. Imaging, scientific research, astronomy…

Tja ,

Might be, but I somehow don’t picture an astronomer complaining about GPU prices on lemmy…

ilinamorato ,

There are actually a ton of people in research and academia on here.

Or at least there were. I don’t know what the current state of the Lemmy community is.

Tja ,

Those are going to make a ton of money for a lot of people. Every 1% fuel efficiency gained, every second saved in an industrial process, it’s hundreds of millions of dollars.

You don’t need AI in your fridge or in your snickers, that will (hopefully) die off, but AI is not going away where it matters.

ricecake ,

Well, AI has been in those places for a while. The hype cycle is around generative AI which just isn’t useful for that type of thing.

Tja ,

I’m sure if Nvidia, AMD, Apple and Co create npus or tpus for Gen ai they can also be used for those places, thus improving them along.

ricecake ,

Why do you think that?

Nothing I’ve seen with current generative AI techniques leads me to believe that it has any particular utility for system design or architecture.

There are AI techniques that can help with such things, they’re just not the generative variety.

Tja ,

Hardware for faster matrix/tensor multiplication leads to faster training, thus helping. More contributors to your favorite python frameworks leads to better tools, thus helping. Etc.

I am aware that chatbots don’t cure cancer, but discarding all the contributions of the last two years is disingenuous at best.

ilinamorato ,

Those are going to make a ton of money for a lot of people.

Right, but not any one person. The people running the hype train want to be that one person, but the real uses just aren’t going to be something you can exclusively monetize.

Tja ,

Depends how you define “a ton” of money. Plenty of startups have been acquired for silly amounts of money, plenty of consultants are making bank, make executives are cashing big bonuses for successful improvements using AI…

ilinamorato ,

I define “a ton” of money in this case to mean “the amount they think of when they get the dollar signs in their eyes.” People are cashing in on that delusion right now, but it’s not going to last.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

A cure for cancer, if it can be literally nipped in the bud, seems like a possible money-maker to me.

ricecake ,

It’s a money saver, so it’s profit model is all wonky.

A hospital, as a business, will make more money treating cancer than it will doing a mammogram and having a computer identify issues for preventative treatment.
A hospital, as a place that helps people, will still want to use these scans widely because “ignoring preventative care to profit off long term treatment” is a bit too “mask off” even for the US healthcare system and doctors would quit.

Insurance companies, however, would pay just shy of the cost of treatment to avoid paying for treatment.
So the cost will rise to be the cost of treatment times the incidence rate, scaled to the likelihood the scan catches something, plus system costs and staff costs.

In a sane system, we’d pass a law saying capable facilities must provide preventative screenings at cost where there’s a reasonable chance the scan would provide meaningful information and have the government pay the bill. Everyone’s happy except people who view healthcare as an investment opportunity.

ilinamorato ,

A hospital, as a business, will make more money treating cancer than it will doing a mammogram and having a computer identify issues for preventative treatment.

I believe this idea was generally debunked a little while ago; to wit, the profit margin on cancer care just isn’t as big (you have to pay a lot of doctors) as the profit margin on mammograms. Moreover, you’re less likely to actually get paid the later you identify it (because end-of-life care costs for the deceased tend to get settled rather than being paid).

I’ll come back and drop the article link here, if I can find it.

ricecake ,

Oh interesting, I’d be happy to be wrong on that. :)

I figured they’d factor the staffing costs into what they charge the insurance, so it’d be more profit due to a higher fixed costs, longer treatment and some fixed percentage profit margin.
The estate costs thing is unfortunately an avenue I hadn’t considered. :/

I still think it would be better if we removed the profit incentive entirely, but I’m pleased if the two interests are aligned if we have to have both.

ilinamorato ,

Oh, absolutely. Absent a profit motive that pushes them toward what basically amounts to a protection scam, they’re left with good old fashioned price gouging. Even if interests are aligned, it’s still way more expensive than it should be. So yes, I agree that we should remove the profit incentive for healthcare.

Sadly, I can’t find the article. I’ll keep an eye out for it, though. I’m pretty sure I linked to it somewhere but I’m too terminally online to figure out where.

ilinamorato ,

That’s not what this is, though. This is early detection, which is awesome and super helpful, but way less game-changing than an actual cure.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

It’s not a cure in itself, but isn’t early detection a good way to catch it early and in many cases kill it before it spreads?

ilinamorato ,

It sure is. But this is basically just making something that already exists more reliable, not creating something new. Still important, but not as earth-shaking.

bluewing ,

The hypesters and grifters do not prevent AI from being used for truly valuable things even now. In fact medical uses will be one of those things that WILL keep AI from just fading away.

Just look at those marketing wankers as a cherry on the top that you didn’t want or need.

medgremlin ,

People just need to understand that the true medical uses are as tools for physicians, not “replacements” for physicians.

bluewing ,

I think the vast majority of people understand that already. They don’t understand just what all those gadgets are for anyway. Medicine is largely a ''blackbox" or magical process anyway.

medgremlin ,

There are way too many techbros trying to push the idea of turning chat gpt into a physician replacement. After it “passed” the board exams, they immediately started hollering about how physicians are outdated and too expensive and we can just replace them with AI. What that ignores is the fact that the board exam is multiple choice and a massive portion of medical student evaluation is on the “art” side of medicine that involves taking the history and performing the physical exam that the question stem provides for the multiple choice questions.

bluewing ,

And it has gone exactly nowhere either hasn’t it. Nor do those techbros want the legal and moral responsibilities that come with an actual licence to pass the boards.

medgremlin ,

I think there are some techbros out there with sleazy legal counsel that promises they can drench the thing in enough terms and conditions to relieve themselves of liability, similar to the way that WebMD does. Also, with healthcare access the way it is in America, there are plenty of people who will skim right past the disclaimer telling them to go see a real healthcare provider and just trust the “AI”. Additionally, there’s enough slimy NP professional groups pushing for unsupervised practice that they could just sign on their NP licenses for prescriptions, and the malpractice laws currently in place would be difficult to enforce depending on outcomes and jurisdictions.

This doesn’t get into the sowing of discord and discontent with physicians that is happening even without these products existing in the first place. Even the claims that an AI could potentially, maybe, someday sorta-kinda replace physicians makes people distrust and dislike physicians now.

Separately, I have some gullible classmates in medical school that I worry about quite a lot, because they’ve bought into the line that chat GPT passed the boards, so they take its’ hallucinations as gospel and argue with our professor’s explanations as to why the hallucination is wrong and the correct answer on a test is correct. I was not shy about admonishing them and forcefully explaining how these “generative AIs” are little more than glorified text predictors, but the allure of easy answers without having to dig for them and understand complex underlying principles is very alluring, so I don’t know if I actually got through to him or not.

ilinamorato ,

The hypesters and grifters do not prevent AI from being used for truly valuable things even now.

I mean, yeah, except that the unnecessary applications are all the corporations are paying anyone to do these days. When the hype flies around like this, the C-suite starts trying to micromanage the product team’s roadmap. Once it dies down, they let us get back to work.

blackbirdbiryani ,

Honestly they should go back to calling useful applications ML (that is what it is) since AI is getting such a bad rap.

medgremlin ,

I once had ideas about building a machine learning program to assist workflows in Emergency Departments, and its’ training data would be entirely generated by the specific ER it’s deployed in. Because of differences in populations, the data is not always readily transferable between departments.

BingBong , (edited ) to linux in Buying a new computer to run Linux on - suggestions?

To have one ready out of the box with linux maybe look at the System76 offerings? system76.com

Edit: just got a chance to check and they are slightly above your $1000 criteria. So maybe on his recommendation.

Suoko , to worldnews in Photos from a Pro-Palestine Rally today in Yemen
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

That looks huge

eldavi , to worldnews in Photos from a Pro-Palestine Rally today in Yemen

i’ve been told so many times on the lemmyverse that holding biden, trump and kamala accountable, in the only way that i can, for supporting genocide brands me a single issue voter; it’s nice to see a reminder that others out there understand how truly morally bereft it is and give it the weight it deserves.

thanks for sharing; i needed to see it.

baduhai ,

What’s your alternative?

eldavi , (edited )

i suppose stop paying attention and shut up like the mods & users of lemmy.world and reddit keep pushing me to do.

honestly, i think that if hadn’t have suffered as much as i did at the hands at biden, obama, both bush’s & clinton i would probably agree with them.

my suffering PALES in comparison in ways that i don’t want to imagine for those suffering in gaza and sharing my views and voting accordingly is easy now that i no longer live in texas, so i’ll keep doing it; it’s just nice to see the it’s not the same 8 or 9 dozen lemmyverse users who also feel this way.

baduhai ,

It was an honest question, I’m not from the US, so I have no horse in the race.

eldavi ,

everyone does; whether or not you’re american.

Dyskolos ,

I don’t

eldavi ,

that’s only true if you’re somehow insulated from american hegemony.

Dyskolos ,

Depends… We’re all interconnected on some level. But i don’t care anymore.

baduhai , (edited )

I mean I guess I’d rather Trump didn’t win, but I can’t do anything about it. So no, I have no horse in the race.

eldavi ,

so long as american bombs, american soldiers, or american money touch your country; you too will be impacted by this race.

the only way to plausibly ignore it is to be russian, chinese or western european; everyone else is the world is kowtowed to american hegemony, willing or not.

Sodium_nitride ,

Even if we are under US hegemony, we don’t have a horse in the race. US foreign policy is dependent on the decades of built up institutions and material forces beyond any individual’s control. There is no meaningful difference depending on who is president besides optics.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The Green party and Cornel West are alternatives.

barsquid ,

What’s an alternative that won’t end up seating an insurrectionist leading a party that wants to nuke Gaza and send the National Guard to beat the shit out of protestors before moving on to ensuring Ukraine is wiped out?

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The Green party and Cornel West

Not sure if you’re projecting Democrats beatdowns on anti Genocide protesters and their Genocide on the Republicans or are just in Blue Maga mode right now.

barsquid ,

I’m not, the Repubs have been agitating for really going after protesters. In addition to wanting to end voting, turn women into incubators, and such. They want to execute our LGBT neighbors.

“Blue MAGA” won’t become a real thing if you keep saying it, it just shows that you’re completely out of touch with reality.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

You mean like the Democrats which are paid by Zionists to violently crack down on student protesters?

American business leaders and billionaires set up a Whatsapp group to shape public opinion on Israel’s war in Gaza and urged New York City’s mayor to use police to disperse a pro-Palestinian protest at Columbia University.

And

Cops pumping rubber bullets into the UCLA student protest

And

Cops taser a handcuffed protester at Emory University

I’m sure you care so much about LGBT right and aren’t just using it as an excuse to push an agenda. Just like you care so much about brown people being Genocided by the Democrats.

barsquid ,

Cops and business leaders are Dems, today, huh? What is the color to describe which MAGA cult you are in? Red MAGA is probably taken.

Linkerbaan , (edited )
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Are you even American? It’s getting more and more obvious most of these Blue MAGA commenters have no understanding of American politics

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7b7ba7c7-acd3-41db-9d7a-082c639bf5cf.png

barsquid ,

The guy you say they urged is a Dem, therefore the people urging are Dems. Very intelligent. Spreading propaganda for the Repubs. I bet Dobbs is also the Dem’s fault, because they existed at the time, huh? You are Red MAGA, which is the only MAGA.

OurToothbrush ,

Literally expand your political imagination outside of the presidency please. Democrats are doing genocide right now, things are going to keep getting worse the longer we don’t build up a mass workers party. You can vote for Harris in November but building up a counter to Democrats and Republicans should be your primary concern.

barsquid ,

The primary concern is keeping Repubs from taking over and ending elections, a prerequisite for your mass workers party to be viable. I would love to vote for that. Until the nation soundly rejects Repub fascism or changes to a sane voting system it isn’t really an option.

OurToothbrush ,

Lol worker’s parties don’t need bourgeois elections to win power. See, China, ussr, Cuba

chloyster ,

I find this quite disingenuous. No one said that they are only thinking about the presidency? I sure as hell am not. I do everything I can in my local area to have socialist and leftist candidates representing me. A thing I have a tangible effect on. I also don’t want to get labeled a child molester and be executed come January due to project 2025. Harm reduction is a real and valid goal. Just because someone wants that doesn’t mean they aren’t trying to do other things that can help

OurToothbrush ,

I find this quite disingenuous. No one said that they are only thinking about the presidency? I sure as hell am not. I do everything I can in my local area to have socialist and leftist candidates representing me.

Expand your political imagination, this isn’t enough if you want to fight fascism.

Sodium_nitride ,

insurrectionist

Insurrection against the US government is not a bad thing.

nuke gaza, beating protestors, ensuring ukraine is wiped out

This is happening right now under Biden. Casualties in Gaza are estimated to be on the order of 200,000 (the official numbers have stayed around 40,000 for so long now because the health ministry’s capabilities have been decimated). Protestors are being beating, not just in the US tbf, also across the whole of the “democratic” and “free” west. Ukraine has been utterly failed by the western powers who have opposed both a peaceful settlement to the conflict or fully committing. Once the war ends, it doesn’t matter if Biden or Trump is in charge. Ukraine will be looted again just like Russia in the 1990s.

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  • Majestic ,

    That they should abolish (or at the least push for drastic, dramatic reforms, not promises of gradual reform maybe someday during election season but a mass movement, amendments, political action, pressure groups, etc) such a system rather than participate and kick the can down along the road.

    Also that their rights will be taken away regardless if they’re going to lose them.

    Biden has done nothing to reverse what Trump has done, he postures, he does a few meaningless policies but at the back of it all he doesn’t value the lives of those people you claim to care about because he won’t stack the Supreme Court, because he and Kamala and the rest of the Democratic party are not interested in actually fighting the Republicans. Their theatrics that Trump is Hitler 2.0 shows them to be either people who want to enable Hitler 2.0 because they obviously aren’t fighting tooth and nail and are quick to condemn someone trying to kill him (when let’s be honest, most of us wouldn’t condemn a person who shot at Hitler) OR people who don’t truly believe that but know it’s good branding. Either way they’re not a party worth voting for, worth endorsing or worth considering as a real option to protect the vulnerable in this country or any other.

    Fact is Republicans do the dirty deeds, Democrats put some peace paint and pride symbols on things but don’t undo those dirty deeds. During Trump’s term pundits and the Democratic party sobbed and wailed about “kids in cages” on the border and yet when Biden continued it? Nothing but silence. And Kamala’s campaign is ramping up and leaning into that border racism by the way.

    eldavi , (edited )

    the person you’re responding to is making the generic liberal assumption that biden’s policies are too far progressive to ever hurt anybody’s life and trying to make the point that i’m being dismissive of what trump and republicans are trying to do.

    i have receipts so i already know that they’re merely towing the party propaganda line; but thank you nonetheless for articulating these points.

    eldavi , (edited )

    legit answer:

    their lives will be slightly less impacted than mine thanks to biden, clinton, both bushes & obamas’ support for executive order 10450; don’t ask, don’t tell; defensive of marriage act; student loan debt; draconian immigration policy & blocking truly affordable EV’s with tariffs.

    i’ve had the joy of experiencing my life partner deported; my life along with my livelihood dismantled; arrested for simply being brown, gay & willing to stand up for myself; losing multiple jobs because of those laws; and then trapped into inescapable debt until i die because of those & policies laws that every single one of those guys fully supported (and created) up until they needed my vote.

    if they’re not american; then they get to experience genocide and a coup d’etat’s; all fully supported by those same people.

    if you’re referring to project 2025; then you should know that it’s been in existence since 1980 and every single one of those politicians; especially biden; have enacted nearly 75% of project 2025’s recommendations since then; it’s not the boogeyman that they told you to be afraid of.

    Dyskolos ,

    I’m truly sorry to hear that random Internet stranger. Why don’t you follow him if i might ask?

    eldavi ,

    follow who and for what?

    Dyskolos ,

    i’ve had the joy of experiencing my life partner deported

    him?

    eldavi , (edited )

    Gay marriage was also illegal in Mexico; I would have been deported and that doesn’t even consider that I wouldn’t be able to make a living so we would both be dependent on his income which is unrealistic since pay rates there average around $300 per month for all my relatives.

    Dyskolos ,

    Didn’t know Mexico was as backwards as the US :( I guess my view of Mexico was too romantic and to be scratched off my bucket-list. I’m sorry man :(

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Didn’t know Mexico was as backwards as the US

    SSM was legalized under ALMO back in 2022. Incidentally, quite a few Americans absolutely hate ALMO for falling to endorse the continued embargoes of Cuba and Venezuela, and the genocide in Gaza.

    eldavi ,

    It was almost 15 years ago now so the pity isn’t necessary, but thanks for saying nonetheless.

    dubyakay ,

    Terrifying. At this point I’d probably ask for asylum somewhere else.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Anyone complaining about all the terrible things that might happen to people under Trump hasn’t been in Texas or Florida over the last four years.

    It’s nauseating to see Democrats throw their liberal fellows in arms under the bus, election cycle after election cycle, on the grounds that they deserve to suffer for having a fascist governor.

    Sodium_nitride , (edited )

    There is a strong chance that even if Biden Kamla wins the election, the GOP will simply pull a coup like they did in 2000, or tried in 2021. The dems will almost certainly do nothing to resist, and may in fact even willingly hand over power like they did in 2000.

    CommanderCloon ,

    Biden wins the election

    he’s not a candidate anymore

    Sodium_nitride ,

    Sorry, force of habit. But the point applies

    CommanderCloon ,

    Had me check the post’s date haha, but yeah no chance the GOP accepts a loss, and right wing militias have ramped up their recruitment. Minorities really should organize & arm up

    HomerianSymphony ,

    In my experience, those people already know that the potential effects on their lives isn’t more important than genocide.

    Crikeste ,

    All that is already happening under a democrat administration. What power do Americans have other than protest or vote? We’ve tried protesting; we got shot. So, maybe the only way forward is to NOT vote for a democrat UNTIL they develop a HARD stance against genocide and therefore, Israel.

    All we have left is to threaten that, if democrats don’t stop supporting genocide, we won’t vote for them.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    what do you say to people that will be hurt if trump wins?

    I would say they should not have voted for him.

    What do you say to people that will be hurt if Harris wins?

    Maggoty ,

    The one difference I have here is Harris is kind of trapped. She doesn’t have the authority to sanction anyone or stop weapons shipments. So all she could really do is resign. And that’s pretty much political suicide. As things stand I think she’s our best hope to stop those shipments. It’s not a very bright hope I admit. But of the three she’s it.

    eldavi ,

    she needs to speak out & issue statements against it as publicly and frequently as possible to make it clear that she intends to stop american support for the genocide to get people to vote for her.

    Maggoty ,

    From the objective POV, that’s what we want. Not what she needs. Everything I’ve ever learned about politics says don’t go radical in the campaign unless you’re desperate. And by radical I don’t mean ideologically. I mean going where the polls are less than 60-99 percent in favor of something. And that has to be micro as well. For example it doesn’t help her if she goes hard left if the state she needs to win doesn’t have a hard left population big enough to support that. Or worse, she trades a state for it.

    We really have the world’s worst way of electing our Executive. So she’s going to stay in that position of demanding a cease fire, and talking about civilian casualties until the campaign is over. And she’s right to do so unless there’s polling to say that’s more harmful to her than making a statement to take a side with Palestinians.

    I would love for her to come over and fully denounce Israel. But the politics of the situation don’t allow for it. She’s not tarred in the same way as Biden and she’s going to stay neutral as long as she can.

    eldavi ,

    I would love for her to come over and fully denounce Israel. But the politics of the situation don’t allow for it. She’s not tarred in the same way as Biden and she’s going to stay neutral as long as she can.

    i’ve assumed this is why she had to meet with netanyahu in private after he addressed congress; something of an overture to those who boycotted it.

    and i wish she had less of biden’s political tar on her so that i could be happy w the statement released after that private meeting to nudge that voting needle towards kamala instead of west or stein.

    geneva_convenience ,

    There is no reason to believe she will differ from Biden given her past record.

    captain_aggravated , to asklemmy in What has been the worst church service you have ever attended?
    @captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

    My grandmother’s funeral comes to mind. Some old preacher dude walks up to the podium with a legal pad, flips over a page, drops the “we’re at a funeral, act somber” body language like you’d drop a bath robe, and starts what I assume is an average Sunday sermon, occasionally remembering to point to the corpse behind him and insisting “That’s what she believed.”

    He had the gall to offer his hand for me to shake.

    christian ,
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    “Heh, sure are easy when they’re stiff like this! …and very sad.” (one of the treehouse of horror episodes)

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