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AnonymousLlama , to RedditMigration in I don’t understand people who say they can’t figure out Lemmy or KBin
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Having "add new post" in the header on kbin it's definitely something that will trip up people coming from Reddit. You need to add a new "article" which isn't very intuitive

AlteredStateBlob ,
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Took ne a few tries to figure that out. And what is a microblog even and why do we have it?

Eggyhead ,
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Microblogs are like tweets. I think posts from people you follow on Mastodon and similar federated microblogging platforms should appear there. I wish there was the option to merge the microblog and magazine feed. I don't think having them separated is necessary on a platform like this.

AtomicPurple ,
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It's for Mastodon compatibility. Articles are like Reddit posts and microblogs are like tweets. You can post either from Kbin. Your articles will show up as community posts on Lemmy, and your microblogs will show up as toots on Mastodon.

418teapot , to fediverse in Invidious: Why does it suck so much?

Invidious is just a frontend to Youtube like Teddit was a frontend for Reddit. It’s not federated, and Google can and will do everything in their power to make it suck. Just like how Reddit will now destroy Teddit next month.

Peertube is the federated option for video hosting/sharing. But of course, like everything else currently controlled by the centralized mega-corporations, there is a huge network effect hurdle that users need to overcome to get their content off of the user-hostile megacorporations (Youtube) and onto the federated alternatives (Peertube).

I see invidious/teddit/nitter/quetre/rimgo/scribe/libremdb as stop gap band-aids to temporarily give power back to the users, but in the end the owners of the content have full control over stopping these.

This is why it is so important that we promote federated networks like lemmy, mastadon, matrix, peertube, etc… Otherwise the entire internet will be a user-hostile cesspool.

Sordid , to explainlikeimfive in ELI5: If you're a Christian, why do you have to be good if Jesus will forgive you no matter what?
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The simple answer is that the "you have to be good" Christians are not the same people as the "Jesus forgives no matter what" Christians. Beliefs and doctrines vary wildly throughout Christianity, and different Christians often believe contradictory things. This isn't helped by the fact that the Bible itself, being a collection of many books by many authors, contains contradictory viewpoints. This allows believers to focus on the elements they like and ignore the ones they don't.

aquarisces , to RedditMigration in I don’t understand people who say they can’t figure out Lemmy or KBin

I feel like certain users are echoing others in terms of the “oh it’s too hard/complicated” - I don’t know, imo not really just sign up, subscribe to your mags of interest which will pull across the fediverse and engage (up/down/comment) as much as you like lol… really not that hard but I guess change is hard for people (but then it’s not really much a seismic change? I don’t know - I guess I like trying new things).

learnbyexample , to books in What Are Lemmy's Favorite Books that Mix Fantasy & Science Fiction?
  • The Captain by Will Wight
  • The Shadows of Dust by Alec Hutson
  • Portal to Nova Roma by J.R. Mathews
  • Starship’s Mage by Glynn Stewart
the ,

Just finished The Captain. It’s so good. I love both Will Wight and Alec Hutson and it seems we have similar taste (good taste 😀)

Any other book recommendations?

TheFogan , to nostupidquestions in What's with all the NordVPN hate?

Personally my biggest distrust of nord comes from their ads. Most notably one where they anthromorphized a guys smart TV, Roomba and phone talking about him when he leaves the room, and others that basically totally misrepresent what a vpn does.

In short, your TV, Phone, etc... most likely share and compile information because of the ACCOUNTS they need to function. using a VPN will do NOTHING to stop google from knowing any android data, Your devices don't hear eachother by listening to the network, which is almost all going to be encrypted protocols anyway, but by sharing accounts.

In short, I've always found nords comercials constantly misleading on what a VPN can and can't protect you from, and to me it seems that's largely so they can market them to people who don't actually have any use for them, and worse doing it to make people feel like they are "protecting themselves" from something that they are just as vulnerable to with the vpn.

drmoose ,

AFAIK those commercials are made by the content creators themselves and Nord just gives them a guidelines doc, right?

It's true that VPN doesn't do much tho it definitely used to help with IP-based tracking. Imagine if we all pooled our connections through 1 Lemmy IP then the tracker will be very confused why this one IP is coming to many different sources. It doesn't work as much anymore because now 99% of tracking is done through javascript and it's a long lost battle already.

thatfuckinglinuxguy , to RedditMigration in I don’t understand people who say they can’t figure out Lemmy or KBin
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I don’t think that really justifies a lot of the comments I’m seeing in Reddit alternatives threads that it’s hard to figure out.

Haven't been back there and didn't read the comments...

But I think I can understand to a degree:

  • Too many choices: Picking an instance can be confusing for folks that are used to only having to remember 1 name. I personally think this is a bit like people trying Linux for the first time and getting confused by all the choices available. Basically, it's what some people call "analysis paralysis" but add to that the fact that you'll get 12 different recommendations from every 10 people you all (e.g. there's no clear consensus on the "best" one bc "best" means something different to each person). I think one list I saw on GitHub literally had over 200 instances... For non-techies, I could see that being a bit confusing
  • UI differences: some things like making a post on kbin are a bit different (IMO not bad but still different enough that I could see some folks getting confused). Doing searches on lemmy for specific topics (not finding communities but searching for something in a community) is done from a different area on lemmy than on Reddit and IMO is kind of a pain in the ass currently. And on kbin, frankly, I'm not even sure we have that feature at all.
  • Missing features: haven't tried mobile apps (which could again be another point of confusion) but for desktop at least, AFAIK we don't have anything comparable to RES yet. There's no analog to multireddits. And we don't have anything similar to reddit's Saved feature yet. All valid complaints in my opinion. And someone used to any or all of those, might spend a lot of time looking bc they just don't know if it's hidden or does not exist. So, yeah, I could see so confusion there too.

I think there are a lot of advantages they're probably missing too. I like that kbin/lemmy we can choose whatever fucking avatar we want instead of being limited to customizing our snoz or wtf Reddit calls their mascot thing. I saw one guy mentioning how there's no karma bullshit to deal with for new accounts and absolutely agree with that sentiment.

tealdeer; meh, I like the fediverse and it's not hard for me but I'm not shitting on people who don't get it. If they want help, would probably help but not going to push it on people either. It is what it is and that's good enough for me

tal ,
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I like that kbin/lemmy we can choose whatever fucking avatar we want instead of being limited to customizing our snoz or wtf Reddit calls their mascot thing.

"Snoo". It's a space alien.

valzek ,
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I like that kbin/lemmy we can choose whatever fucking avatar we want instead of being limited to customizing our snoz or wtf Reddit calls their mascot thing.

You can still do that on new reddit. When looking at your own profile while logged in, there's a little camera with a plus in the corner of your current avatar/placeholder. (There's also a separate icon further to the right for uploading a banner image.)

Edit: Dang, I didn't expect that image to look so big, it's only 600x300

thatfuckinglinuxguy ,
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Ah my bad then. I really hated new reddit so I avoided it like the plague. Haven't really been on there since either.

RightHandOfIkaros , to retrogaming in Which obscure systems have you played on?

The PC-9801 and Sharp X68000 had some pretty fun hidden gems. Is the PCEngine (TurboGrafx16) considered obscure?

CCatMan , to piracy in Could this become a "Caring is Sharing" sub, just like the old days

Is there a guide on how to upload on Usenet ? Maybe I’m just being silly. … Or am I 🤔

coffeetest , to RedditMigration in I don’t understand people who say they can’t figure out Lemmy or KBin

Fear and an unwillingness to try new things.

For example, some of the complaints that people had about Mastodon early on were just odd to me. They made such a big deal out of "you have to pick a server, no one understands that" or nitpicking UI interfaces between Mastodon and twt. They didn't have logical arguments IMHO it was them just not being happy about change and not being honest about that.

Teglement ,

Saying "I don't want to deal with different servers within a single website" is illogical? Seems entirely logical to me. Anyone used to Reddit is going to be turned off to the whole messy fediverse thing. Me included. Legitimately, it evokes feelings of the dead on arrival Metaverse.

People want simplicity. We're decades past the days of BBS boards.

Quill7513 ,

It’s not a single website. And what’s with all the hate I see around here about BBS boards? BBS boards were great. I just want someone to loop me in about the hate. I just think with the fediverse we’re seeing a rise of a model that brings the best things about BBS boards to more modern web technologies

takeda , to explainlikeimfive in ELI5: In computer networking, what is a port?

If you would compare a server to a building, with its own street address, then port would be an apartment number for every application (tenant) living there.

Ports are what allowing you to run multiple applications and all can communicate over the internet. Without ports you would need to have a dedicated computer for every application.

loopy , to nostupidquestions in What are the pros and cons of selling plasma?
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So I worked at a plasma donation center and in a hospital. I will tell you that the training at the donation place I was at was very brief and you are somewhat practice for many new phlebotomists. I will also say I cared for at least two patients that were hospitalized after people missed their sticks at the donation centers and the patients had infections, pain, and huge vascular issues after that.

That being said many people do it and it turns out just fine. It’s easy money if you can tolerate it. But I would not recommend it, as it can eventually cause scarring to your veins and it may be difficult to start an IV when you are older and actually really need that access site.

keet , to RedditMigration in I don’t understand people who say they can’t figure out Lemmy or KBin
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Reddit has been around for quite a while. There are those of us who used to be tech-savvy "back in the day" that don't handle change either quickly or well. For a casual social-media only user, this can be similar to the experience of a cave-person discovering fire. There are bound to be questions, especially when dealing with multiple types of instances on the fediverse. If we want this to grow into its full potential, we NEED to be patient and welcoming to even the most technologically illiterate.

detwaft ,

There are those of us who used to be tech-savvy "back in the day" that don't handle change either quickly or well.

I feel personally attacked, lol.

The problem I find with the technologically illiterate is that they immediately blurt out what’s on their mind. They ask the same fucking questions over and over, without searching first. The signal to noise ratio drops way down and every day is the same shit.

I am more than happy to interact with people of all walks of life but the internet is very “Groundhog Day” compared with when techies were the only ones on here. I’m not sure what the solution is that gives us perpetual cake.

density ,
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this platform doesn't have search and as far as I understand, doesn't want to have search. so where are you thinking people are supposed to search exactly?

I would love to see your tutorial about how to search for information here.

LanternEverywhere ,

Um, unless I'm misunderstanding you, no, there is a search here. At the top of kbin pages is a magnifying glass icon that does search.

Quill7513 ,

I’ve also noticed a pattern of people asking for the fediverse to just behave exactly like reddit and thinking ant architectural decision that differs from a users perspective is an antipattern

static , to RedditMigration in I don’t understand people who say they can’t figure out Lemmy or KBin
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Anything new is scary
Reddit is complicated, they just forgot.

The digg users said reddit was ugly and they would never use such an ugly site.
I tried explaining reddit to a diehard forum user, why are all the replies out of order? why are upvotes changing the posting order? this is so complicated!

Don't explain, tell them where to start and how to start. then it explains itself.

HandsHurtLoL ,

I can't help but think that people who describe the Fediverse as complicated joined reddit after the redesign...

Kbin is exactly like an old, stripped down version of old.reddit.

Jon-H558 ,

I think this is also the cause of the squabbles.io Vs kbin/Lemmy split. Squabbles is like new Reddit, kbin is like old Reddit. And people like what they know

Bristlerock ,
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This last sentence is the crux of the matter. People don't like change, but quickly forget that they spent time learning the site that they're so familiar with.

AnonymousLlama ,
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In kbins case you actually have a responsive admin and can actually find devs on here working on new features and tweaks (hey there!)

Super happy with how kbin has been going so far

Beefalo ,

People also forget that Reddit wasn’t built in a day and digg didn’t die in a day

timelighter , to fediverse in PSA: Lemmy.ml is not Lemmy

where am I right now?

Piers ,

Lemmy.world. Which is ONE example of a Lemmy instance. Lemmy instances don’t even need to have Lemmy in the name.

Lemmy is a system that allows anyone to create what is essentially their own Reddit. Each of those are called instances. Lemmy.world is one of those, Lemmy.ml, is another, Beehaw is a third. Each of those Lemmy instances are run by different people for different reasons. Each of them have their own communities. A community is like a subreddit. The post you commented on (“PSA: Lemmy.ml is not Lemmy”) was posted to the “Fediverse” community on Lemmy.world. Lemmy.ml could (and possibly does) have it’s own Fediverse community. That would be separately run with separate content to the Lemmy.world Fediverse community.

Where it gets a little confusing, is that users in each of those different instances, can access and participate in the communities in each other’s instances. IE, if you set up your own Lemmy instance called TimeLighter.IsCool and created a community called “Timelighter appreciation society” I could potentially join that community using my Lemmy.world account (assuming you allowed it.) I wouldn’t need to create an account specifically on the TimeLighter.IsCool Lemmy to access it. If I did though I’d still (in theory) be able to use it to participate in the communities here at Lemmy.world.

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