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HBK , to news in Media Bias Fact Check - Automation
@HBK@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Mods, I appreciate this bot!

Deciphering media bias is tough, and finding 1 site that will ‘perfectly’ identify biases is an impossible task, but at the minimum having this bot show up on posts ‘gets people thinking’ about the credibility of their news sources.

MBFC doesn’t have to be the ultimate arbitrator either. If it is missing something about a specific article people can call it out in the comments. At the end of the day, the worst thing it does is add more data about a news source and I’m not gonna complain about that.

Rooki OP ,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks! MBFC isnt perfect, its made by humans and in their free time.

Talisman ,

It’s not perfect, why is this being pushed as an arbiter of truth?

Rooki OP , (edited )
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

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  • Krauerking ,

    As always feedback is welcome, as this is a active project which we really hope will benefit the community

    So this wasn’t true huh?

    Cause people are trying to give you feedback and the response from you guys have been.

    Well we don’t care what you think! We are doing this no matter what!

    Rooki OP ,
    @Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

    Cause people are trying to give you feedback …

    The feedback is “MBFC BAD, DELETE IT, ITS A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY”

    No improvement idea? No… thats NOT feedback, thats just crying around.

    Something like MBFC NEEDS to be here, not all mods can fact check each and every news page and inform the users with it. ( This would probably get the same shitstorm like this because “THE MOD XYZ FACT CHECK IS BAD, BAN HIM, HE IS A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY” will come up too )

    So what would you recommend? That is doable for free and no one dislikes it? ( Deleting the bot is NOT an option )

    If you have a better Fact Check page you trust let me know, i would LOVE to implement that into the bot.
    We were already thinking about making a “public” open source github repo where people could contribute their fact checks and trusted people review it. ( BUT this will get the same shitstorm like the previous 2, because some people have something against their news page being (in their eyes) “wrongly” fact checked and marked.

    Do you see the trouble the “MBFC BAD ewww” and no resolution is causing here?

    Please in the love of god ( or not god ) use the block button. I will lock these posts if shitpost comments like these are still coming.

    Sry, i am a little pissed, that no one sees the block on their website/app.

    Krauerking ,

    You are demanding people use a block button for something that has discourse about implementing at all.

    Are you being paid by them to add it? Seriously? I get that you are pissed at you are the moderator. You signed up for this job and that means being in a position that requires talking to and listening and leading the community.

    This is just immature and incredibly unnecessary. It’s not a propaganda blocking tool you implemented but a bot that links to a website that lets people make immediate bias judgements before they even interact with other people.

    Do you see the trouble demanding this is what’s best is doing?

    You’ve clearly chosen a side and demand that everyone bend to it. Lock the post and lock the sub. You clearly don’t want to be here.

    Rooki OP ,
    @Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

    We added the possibility for users to use the newly added context how they want it or not.

    And you overexaggerated how much impact it really has on people. I have the feeling i am speaking with just some peoples alt here, just my suspicion.

    Like said, if you dont like it block it. Like with everything else on the platform. Dont get you angry over a bot.

    Krauerking ,

    You put a whole screen immediate responding banner of a comment that states an unmediated declaration of trustworthiness of an entire publication attached to each new post linking an article. You have no idea the impact as much as I do or the people trying to alert you that it’s a bad idea.

    And now you get to appease yourself and stroke your ego by arguing that the people in here aren’t real because it’s just names on a screen with no real connection to them existing. Great.

    Way to stand behind the community and it’s users. Really shows you give a shit. Can’t believe you are the arbiter of a news community.

    AhismaMiasma ,

    Rooki, please consider listening to the community.

    catloaf ,

    No, it does not need to be here. Deleting the bot is absolutely an option. Refusing to reconsider your decision is childish.

    theherk ,

    the transmission of evaluative or corrective information about an action, event, or process to the original or controlling source — www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feedback

    nia_the_cat ,
    @nia_the_cat@lemmy.world avatar

    We are giving you feedback because of this line

    As always feedback is welcome, as this is a active project which we really hope will benefit the community.

    This response is not the kind to be expected from an administrator that respects their community. Even if you disagree with it, the community is seeing you act incredibly defensively and emotionally to reasonable criticism and feedback, instead of taking an objective look at the situation.

    Rooki OP ,
    @Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

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  • nia_the_cat ,
    @nia_the_cat@lemmy.world avatar

    Look. The community dislikes your change. If you don’t have the ability to act in the interests of your community, then quite simply you are not a good moderator.

    I’m deleting my account. I refuse to be on an instance that it ran by immaturity.

    Krauerking , (edited )

    Maybe the feed back is we don’t want or need this bot?

    Like, your option is not between chopping off your left hand or your right and all the people screaming not to do it are just trying to get you to swap the axe to the other hand. Maybe they just think you should put it down and rethink why chopping off your hand is the only choice.

    You are stuck on a singular option of it must exist without reason for why other than because you kinda think it’s cool despite users telling you it’s not. To the point that you are going to punish people who don’t like it or report it.

    It’s childish. It really is.

    hellfire103 , to lemmyshitpost in Why is it so easy to avoid nettles as an adult?

    I don’t wear shorts nearly as much as I used to, and I’m paranoid enough about ticks that I stay away from long grass and verges.

    jubilationtcornpone ,

    If I want to go for a hike, or even for a short walk in my back yard, it’s a choice between slathering myself in bug spray or being eaten alive by chiggers. I choose neither.

    hellfire103 ,

    I am forever grateful that my country doesn’t have chiggers. I’ll take those ticks that make you allergic to red meat over chiggers any day.

    Fiivemacs , to letsnotmeet in The Rat People of Pakistan

    Religion and lack of education is scary.

    PinkyCoyote OP ,
    @PinkyCoyote@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Yeeeeep

    classic ,

    And systems of income disparity

    PinkyCoyote OP ,
    @PinkyCoyote@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Now I wanna clarify. The shrines aren’t the gangs.

    The gangs aren’t the religious ones. And its quite possible that the kids aren’t given away die to religious reasons but just victims of kidnapping.

    So maybe religion here just gives people hope. Can’t blame this on em 100%

    pop ,

    If Pakistan was secular with a responsible government, it would be a paradise to travel. There are so many gorgeous mountains there.

    But they just had to be ultra religious pandering the shitty aspects of the religion with wackjobs to exploit it. I hope they change soon.

    PinkyCoyote OP ,
    @PinkyCoyote@sopuli.xyz avatar

    And the most beautiful parts of the country (up north) are the most crazy parts. It’s where the Taliban has roots and where all the Afghanis immigrated.

    Karmmah , to linux in How was your experience using Linux in college?
    @Karmmah@lemmy.world avatar

    Studying mechanical engineering at a university in Europe at the moment and using Linux exclusively on my main laptop for a few years now. Mostly it’s totally fine since I almost always work with PDF documents while studying and when working in groups we always use something cloud based (Office365) to enable simulataneous editing anyway so no problem there.

    However recently we had had to use a program to get bonus points that only runs on Windows and not even inside a virtual machine. Also CAD software is essentially Windows only (I got by using Fusion360 online but it’s much slower than the native app).

    So I guess you should be fine, especially since some university/college staff are also Linux enthusiasts but it will probably vary wildly based on where you’re studying.

    KazuchijouNo , to linux in How to move from Windows to Linux?

    You could dual boot and access your documents from linux by mounting your windows partition. Don’t forget to backup your data before you do anything, especially if this is your first time doing this.

    cRazi_man ,

    DO NOT dual boot as a beginner. I did this when I started and would screw up something with the bootloader and be unable to boot one of the OSs (data can still be copied off, but installed app data isn’t easily recovered). Being a noob at the time, I even accidentally wiped the wrong drive during a distro hop.

    For a beginner I would recommend you remove your Windows SSD and keep it safe in a drawer. Or clone the drive first. Then you can mess around all you want while keeping your original SSD safe.if the data and OS/app installs are valuable then don’t fuck around learning a new system with the drive in situ. Certainly don’t try to learn to partition and dual boot off the same drive. The noob risk is just too high.

    Strider ,

    That only accelerates the learning and migration, no? 🤣

    /scnr

    GregorGizeh ,

    SCeNic Route? 👀

    KazuchijouNo ,

    Couldn’t agree more xd Yeah, I’ve messed up Grub so many times… Now I know what not to do

    teawrecks ,

    I only dual booted for years. I learned very quickly how to live boot and run Boot Repair.

    gjoel , to linux in How was your experience using Linux in college?

    My university mainly ran Solaris, pretty much everything also ran on Linux. In the rare case where Windows was required a remote desktop was available.

    My university probably isn’t your university though, so answers may not be worth much…

    thagoat , to asklemmy in Who is the GOATest GOAT?

    I am

    HonkTonkWoman ,

    Amen

    Hazzia , to noncredibledefense in NCD goes mushroom-picking

    What does it taste like

    FilthyHands ,

    Like pop rocks but all over your body

    dactylotheca OP ,
    @dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

    Sour!

    Well, at least the “hard radiation” part: Louis Slotin, one of the victims of the demon core, reported a sour taste when the screwdriver he was using to hold the halves of the core apart slipped and they slammed together and went supercritical.

    authorinthedark , to asklemmy in Who is the GOATest GOAT?

    the oldest Billy Goat Gruff, who knocked the troll off the bridge saving both his siblings

    PinkyCoyote OP , to letsnotmeet in The Rat People of Pakistan
    @PinkyCoyote@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Again, you may ask whatever you’d like. Happy to answer

    andrew_bidlaw ,
    @andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

    So on the government level this problem just doesn’t exist? Something tells me such gangs couldn’t be allowed to prosper if not for strategic bribes to the officials or informal relations with them. I’ve heard such stories about different times and places, but the size of operations eluded me.

    It was about India, but Slumdog Millionaire’s main characters were too at a risk of being mutilated to beg by a gangster. Since it gained such traction and was hugely criticized there, I wonder if someone took a second glance at that problem.

    PinkyCoyote OP ,
    @PinkyCoyote@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Well it kind of does now. But the government is a non factor in the country in these matters.

    All government departments are in fact corrupt and incompetent.

    Now I haven’t seen slumdog millionaire and wasn’t aware thats what it was about. But south asian countries are massive and kind of lawless so its unlikely this will ever be solved.

    belha , to linux in How was your experience using Linux in college?
    @belha@bolha.us avatar

    @clark Uni sold their soul to Microsoft, not one Linux machine in sight.
    However, I've been using it since last year just fine, as it was intro to programming class.
    Though, I will have one electronics class down the line which uses a proprietary, Windows-only, not-gonna-give-you-a-license software, and it really sucks.
    Hoping that next time it gets better...

    clark OP ,
    @clark@midwest.social avatar

    I think many technical educations are dependent on Windows to some extent, but I’m not sure how it is with humaniora / social studies-focused education programs.

    belha ,
    @belha@bolha.us avatar

    @clark If it can be achieved on a browser, Linux can definitely be used.

    some_guy , to asklemmy in People who used older macintosh OS in the 90s, what was it like for your daily use, work, games etc?

    I loved it dearly. There were lots of cool customizations that were possible because the OS wasn’t locked down pre-internet. There was a system extension to have Oscar the Grouch pop up in the Trash and sing when deleting files. There were GUI customizations that radically changed the interface. iTunes Visualizer was amazing to watch while playing music on LSD.

    Someone figured out how to trick the AOL client to think you were in their Support section (which wasn’t billed against your allotment of monthly hours) and released AOL4Free so you could run forever without extra billing. Eudora was a fine email client that I only remember because other people talk about how much they liked it. I was too young to work and so received very few emails at the time, but I know I hated whatever came after it; I think maybe Outlook Express? We had to troubleshoot system extensions that had incompatibilities and used a tool that aided in a binary search of disabling some systematically across reboots. You could customize apps with a tool called ResEdit (a resource fork editor for attributes like icons and buttons).

    The most important part (to me) at the time: The text looked beautiful. I could never understand how anyone using the janky Windows fonts didn’t look at MacOS and immediately think to themselves, wtf my computer must be garbage. Being a publishing-first platform really made our typefaces shine by comparison.

    howrar , to asklemmy in Honest question, how many of you watch the autoplaying videos on websites ?

    I do, and then I forgot why I was on that website to begin with. Takes me forever to get my bearings back. I hate it.

    I see people saying that ublock can get rid of those. If someone can share how, that would be awesome. My ublock only blocks ads.

    glitch ,

    Right click on the video under ublock select block element. A popup will show up in the bottom right where you can fine tune. If the video has a custom right click menu just do it anywhere else and in the fine tune options click select element then the video. Also make sure you use uBlock Origin.

    Jumuta , to linux in How was your experience using Linux in college?

    wdym by college? the same word means a lot of different things in different places

    clark OP ,
    @clark@midwest.social avatar

    College / university, the thing right after highschool.

    caseyweederman , to selfhosted in What self hosting feels like (It's painful, please help 🥲)

    Step one: use Dendrite instead.
    Step two: come back and help me set up my Dendrite instance, it’s definitely not easier.

    milicent_bystandr ,

    Step one: email must be much easier, I’ll just make an email server instead.

    Step two: screw this, I’m writing letters and posting them.

    Archer ,

    Isn’t running your own SMTP server effectively impossible nowadays?

    AHemlocksLie ,

    Running a server is very doable. There are packages to deploy and configure almost everything for you and removing a ton of headache.

    Getting your email recognized as not spam by the major providers is pretty much impossible. You need all sorts of stuff to help verify integrity including special DNS records and public identity keys, but even if you do everything right, your mail can very easily get black holed before it even reaches a user’s inbox because of stupid shit like someone abused your rented server’s IP years ago, and you can’t seem to get it off everyone’s lists.

    Email as a decentralized tool has effectively been ruined by spam and anti-spam measures. You’re effectively forced to use a provider because it’s near impossible to make your outgoing mail work as an individual. I think some of those anti-spam measures are anticompetitive, but I do think some are just desperate attempts to reduce the massive flow of spam.

    zrk ,

    It’s not impossible, many people I know and myself successfully self host their email. Yes it’s not trivial, and yes the ip reputation can be annoying to deal with (but it’s possible to cycle to another server to get another ip), but apart from that, if following the best practices (SPF, DKIM, DMARC, proper setup of the mailserver) once it’s set up it can run for years without issue.

    To set things straight, I’m not saying that it is easy, but it’s also not impossible, and only giving up will further contribute to centralized email provider monoculture.

    Not for everyone, but for those who can, I feel they should.

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