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LibertyLizard , to science_memes in Seriously.

This is why Celsius is the only SI unit that isn’t just wholly better than its imperial counterpart. Both F and C are fairly arbitrary, but in my view F has the slight edge by giving numbers 0-100 in most weather conditions across earth.

Soulg ,

Yep Celsius is 1-100 for water and Fahrenheit is 1-100 for humans

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

I’ve always hated this justification of Fahrenheit. For it to be a good argument, 50 °F would need to be the ideal comfortable temperature. But instead 50 is really fucking cold. 100 just isn’t as hot as 0 is cold.

turbowafflz ,

I think it depends on the person which is the problem, for me 50 isn’t that cold but 100 is completely unbearable

MelodiousFunk ,
Morphit ,
@Morphit@feddit.uk avatar

<span style="color:#323232;">               PSI
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> 0                             100
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ┣━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┫
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Dead                  Potentially survivable
</span><span style="color:#323232;">               Vs
</span><span style="color:#323232;">               Atm
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> 0                             100
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ┣━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┫
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Dead                           Dead
</span><span style="color:#323232;">               Vs
</span><span style="color:#323232;">               kPa
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> 0                             100
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ┣━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┫
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Dead                      Totally  Fine
</span>
MelodiousFunk ,
Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

See that Celsius graph is precisely the nonsense I’m trying to point out. 0 ℃ isn’t “fairly cold outside”. It’s literally the definition of freezing cold. 0 ℉ is “dead” if you’re not wearing quite heavy clothing. 0 ℃ is “really cold outside” and still understating things.

MelodiousFunk ,

0 ℃ isn’t “fairly cold outside”. It’s literally the definition of freezing cold.

…for water. At 1 atmosphere of pressure. Not taking into account salinity.

0 ℉ is “dead” if you’re not wearing quite heavy clothing.

Lots of temperatures on both ends of the spectrum are “dead” without proper attire, regardless of what unit of measurement is used.

0 ℃ is “really cold outside” and still understating things.

I think there’s a bit of a reference frame issue here.

Zero C is normal winter temperature for a lot of people. For some, it’s downright balmy. If it’s sunny, I won’t need more than a fleece and jeans. Working outside, I’ll probably ditch the sleeves after a while.

Going off of your instance, I’m guessing you’re in Australia. Since I don’t know where, I grabbed a large southern city (Melbourne), and looked up the record holder for coldest temperature (Charlotte Pass). All temps in Celsius:

Melbourne:

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/ed1aac24-df6e-4a82-a58f-8e9068b4fe57.jpeg

Charlotte Pass:

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/997d3161-d4fe-4c86-b22c-3b8dedb15e4a.jpeg

For comparison, here’s a city near me (New York), and a random town I picked from a map in northern Minnesota (known for being cold in the winter).

New York:

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/abad5a1a-e292-4413-8c07-342e374d2651.jpeg

Roseau:

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/52bfb3f9-4e08-4e7d-8170-f331eafb4407.jpeg

That… is a stark difference. Where you live makes a huge impact on what feels “normal.” 0 C is no big deal here. It’s just “cold.” Minnesota in January? “What a nice day!” That’s not nonsense, it’s different perspectives.

Is Fahrenheit arbitrary and outdated? Yes. Is Celsius arbitrary? Also yes. There’s nothing special about the freezing and boiling points of water at 1atm. But that’s the (basis behind the) current scientific standard. Is it ridiculous that the US still uses Fahrenheit? Yes. Why? I don’t run the place, I just live here.

Does any of this matter in the day to day of normal people? No. Will people keep arguing about it? Absolutely.

pumpkinseedoil , (edited )

Fully agree with you. How does that make sense:

Really hot summer days (30°C) are 86°F

Usual summer days (25°C) are 77°F

Room temperature is ~70°F

Spring / autumn days (20°C) are 68°F

Chilly outside / late autumn / early spring days (~10°C) are 50°F

Cool outside / warm winter days (~0°C) are 32°F

Cold outside / usual winter days (-10°C) are ~15°F

Winter nights (bit below -20°C) are ~ -10°F

Fahrenheit users keep saying how strange it is to have negative temperatures when using °C, but it’s just the same in Fahrenheit except the whole scale makes less sense since it’s using fully arbitrary, not recreatable points for 0 and 100.

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

I mean, I deliberately avoided using terms like “hot summer days” and “usual winter day” because that’s far more dependent on where you are. Where I am it’s:

  • Really hot summer days (35 ℃)
  • Usual summer days (30 ℃)
  • Room temperature (24 ℃)
  • Spring / autumn days (25 ℃)
  • Chilly outside (18 ℃)
  • Cold outside / usual winter days (15 ℃)
  • Winter nights (10 ℃)

So I used words that are about the experience of a person in those temperatures in comfortable light clothing, rather than times of year. And obviously there’s some subjectivity there, with some people being more comfortable in cold temperatures than others. But still, we’re talking about the comfortable mid point varying from mid 20s to high 10s. There’s no reasonable world in which 50 ℉ (10 ℃) is the midpoint.

pumpkinseedoil ,

Yes, it doesn’t matter which example you take, Fahrenheit never makes sense imo.

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Fahrenheit is 1-100 for humans

Only if you grow up with it lol. Fahrenheit makes no sense to me

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

how is fahrenheit 1-100 for humans? 100 i can sorta see, most people have a body temp around ~37°C (though still, there’s about 1°C of variance…), but 0°F is very very cold and not exactly a temperature that many people encounter on a daily basis.

i certainly cannot think of anything more relevant to humans than the freezing and boiling points of water, most people encounter them often and it’s very easy to see when water starts freezing or boiling.
If you see ice outside you know the temp is below 0°C, when the water in your pot is boiling you know it’s at 100°C, it’s super fucking easy.

But the reference points for fahrenheit cannot intuitively be measured, 0°F has no obvious indicator, and 100°F can at best be vaguely inferred based on the air temps we can do work in, and even then you can really only reliably infer something like 30°C because that’s generally when humans start feeling like it’s too warm to do significant amounts of labour.

pumpkinseedoil ,

Kelvin is the SI unit. Anyway also for the weather Celsius is clearer: Below 0 = snow, above 0 = rain. And Celsius at least has fixed points that can be recreated - if all thermometers and data on scales were lost we could easily recreate °C, but not °F.

LibertyLizard ,

Ah well I should have said metric measurement then. It is part of the metric system, yes?

If you can’t remember the number 32 then I guess. Personally I think it’s pretty bizarre to have negative temperatures all the time but whatever floats your boat.

Regarding losing all thermometers and data… if you lost the definition of Celsius there would be no way to recreate it. This seems maybe more likely then your scenario.

KingOfTheCouch ,

No seriously what is significant about 0F? I live in a place that sees a lot of negative F too.

It’s so arbitrary. If it was 0 at freezing water and 100 at human body temp I’d understand it but no, it’s literally nothing significant in people’s lives. It has no tangible anchor.

It’s purely emotion keeping it around.

pumpkinseedoil , (edited )

0°F is the coldest night Mister Fahrenheit has ever witnessed, thinking it couldn’t become any colder than this.

100°F is Mister Fahrenheit’s slightly feverish body temperature.

???

PS: Pretty much all other countries also had their own measurement systems and simply switched to metric because it made sense. I’m glad we did, and that pretty much all others did too.

PPS: I’d also be up for revamping time measurement, why can’t we have 10h a day, 100 minutes per hour, 100 seconds per minute? 100.000 seconds in total per day, currently we have 86.400 so a second would only become slightly shorter.

The French tried to implement that in the First Republic, together with 12 months à 30 days per year, 3 weeks à 10 days per month and 5 (6) extra days at the end of the year to make it work (from Christmas to New Year, how thematic!)

It failed because the French were fearing they’d have to work more (if they’d also only have 2 days off per 10d instead of per 7d). One of the biggest tragedies in French history. Without the week reform the time reform might’ve succeeded.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Changing the length of a second would be so insanely difficult that it’s probably isn’t worth attempting. Pretty mush every other standard unit has the second in there somewhere at some point, so changing that would mean spending decades of changing math on so many things. That story about the Mars probe that slammed into the planet because someone screwed up the units? That would be happening everywhere all the time.

In the end you’re always going to have weirdness with time because the orbit of the Earth around the sun isn’t going to be divided evenly by the rotation of the Earth. Whatever you do is going to come out janky, so why spend all the time and effort to change from our current jankiness to a different janky system? We’d have to put a lot of time and effort into solving the new problems caused by the new jankiness. Then someone else will probably propose some new janky system to replace that system, and it’s a never ending frustration because we’ll never have a perfect system because ultimately orbital mechanics don’t divide into even numbers.

LibertyLizard ,

Nothing. It’s equally arbitrary as setting 0 to be the freezing point of water.

But it covers the weather for the vast majority of people, the vast majority of time, better than Celsius does. That’s what I mean.

If you want to remove sentimentality from your temperature then use Kelvin but Celsius is just as arbitrary and sentimental as Fahrenheit is.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

0 as the freezing point of water isn’t arbitrary though, and neither is boiling.

They’re both very useful reference points since water is universally available and you can easily tell when it freezes and boils, it makes it comparatively trivial and accessible to create your own thermometer which is likely to at least generally agree with someone else’s.

this is the one aspect where i kind of prefer imperial measurements for distance, basing measurements on the human body means everyone has easy access to a reference that is likely to be not too tremendously wrong.

Obviously not super relevant these days, but back in the day it was a pretty neat feature. Like fuck, it wasn’t that long ago that the meter and the kilogram were still defined by a SINGLE specific object kept in a climate controlled vault.

HotsauceHurricane , to science_memes in biodegradable

lol what a wild ride.

ModernRisk , to gaming in Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of September 8th
@ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Bit by bit playing HellBlade 2. The game is amazing however, the story and atmosphere is so strong (for a lack of better word) that I need downtime after playing it for an hour. It’s so dark and these voices gets to your own head sometimes, especially when playing with headset.

Recently started Warhammer Space Marine 2. A fun hack ‘n slash to just play after study, work or just general a long day.

Debating to purchase Persona 3 Reload when it is on sale. I played and loved Persona 5 Royal, clocked in 124-125 hours into it. I heard mixed stories about Reload, great character but lackluster dungeons and less social elements.

AnEilifintChorcra , to linux in Several windows programs won't work with Wine. Would running a Windows VM be a better option?

Yeah, sometimes there just isn’t another option. I have a 60GiB Win11 VM for things I use every few months for a couple of minutes at a time

I’d recommend www.qemu.org for virtualisation

virt-manager.org for a gui to manage VMs, you can easily add or remove cores, memory, internet, directories etc really easily.

github.com/winfsp/winfsp lets you add a directory from your host to the VM to easily share files

github.com/…/virtio-win-guest-tools-installer makes the cursor seamlessly move between the VM and host instead of pressing ctrl alt g to escape.

Win11 23H2 still allows for offline set up. Just press shift f10 when you’re at the internet set up and type


<span style="color:#323232;">oobe/bypassnro
</span>

The VM will reboot and give you the option to select I don’t have internet so you can just use a local account

github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat/ for getting rid of the unwanted bloatware

Theres also an easy way to activate windows for free, I don’t think I can link it here but its on github and MAS-sive amount of people have starred it.

Zak , to asklemmy in My wife has an iPhone. I have a Samsung S23. Why do videos she texts me look like super low res shit?? Can iPhones not text videos?
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

So many people asking me to have my wife do something different on her end. Beloved, she is on iPhone because she doesn’t want to do anything “weird.”

Assuming using a third-party messaging app is “weird”, then she can’t send you video with acceptable quality. That’s how it is.

She can’t fix that. You can’t fix that. None of the readers here can fix that unless they work at Apple. This may improve in the future when Apple adopts RCS, but there’s a lot that real-world implementations of RCS do that isn’t in the standard, so the full details of interoperability are uncertain until we see it in the wild.

Now, why can’t I get iMessage on my android phone?

Because Apple doesn’t want you to. Apple wants situations like this one to pressure people to buy iPhones because that’s apparently easier for some people than agreeing on a messaging app.

ChiefSinner , to lemmyshitpost in Regain Control in my ass

pull harder on the strings of your martyrdom in my ass

filister , to android in What Browser do you use on Android, and why?

Firefox Nightly because of the extensions, Libredirect, uBlock Origin, Ghostery, Privacy Badger, etc.

Sina , to linux in How can we make Linux more appealing as "just works"?

Immutable distros like Silverblue or Bazzite are the only path I see that can work for normies. However flatpak itself has to mature more, theming anomalies need to be dealt with somehow for example.

Mint is only good to ease a technically inclined person into the linux world.

Zerfallen , to android in What Browser do you use on Android, and why?

Vivaldi, because it is available everywhere, has cross-platform tab syncing, ad-blocking, and a tab bar on Android.

themadcodger ,
@themadcodger@kbin.earth avatar

Workspaces, tab stacks, and automatic memory recovery were game chambers for me and my… filing system.

I don't close tabs.

UnderpantsWeevil , to science_memes in Jackhammer
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

imagine … hearing the jackhammer scream of our star

Sounds are a form of energy. If we were bombarded by sound waves for the entire existence of the planet, I assume life would have adapted to harness this abundant power source and made it instrumental to how we survive and thrive.

Daikusa ,

instrumental

Heh.

skullgiver , to asklemmy in What's the easiest way to update bios on my Ubuntu laptop without a USB?
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

Linux has support for updating various Lenovo models through a piece of software called fwupdmgr. If your laptop is support, it should show up automatically in Gnome Software or similar package managers.

For your laptop, Lenovo has a “Bootable CD” download option for non-Windows users. It’s intended to be written to a CD (but a flash drive will probably also work), for example by using one of those USB DVD drives.

If you don’t have a flash drive for some reason (and I doubt you’ll have a DVD drive in that case), you can try to make the Ubuntu bootloader boot the ISO, though that’s not something for beginners. Here are the official instructions in case you still want to try, but I don’t think I’d bother.

The easiest method may be to contact Lenovo and ask them how to do it. I think they’ll refer you to the bootable ISO. If they don’t make their updates available for anything but Linux, you’re going to have an annoying time.

Spending the five dollars on a flash drive to write the bootable CD to would be worth it in my opinion.

To answer your question: if the software manager doesn’t offer you the firmware update already, the easiest (not necessarily easy) way would be manually adding a bootloader entry to your Grub configuration to boot the update ISO you can download from Lenovos’s website.

The second easiest way would probably be to extract the firmware updater from either the Windows download or the ISO file, extracting the .efi files and the .rom files, placing them on your EFI partition, and using the boot menu to manually boot the firmware updater.

Or, to answer more succinctly: if you don’t get those updates already, there’s no easy way without a bootable medium. Sorry. Tell Lenovo to publish the firmware updates through the standard Linux channels like they do for other laptops.

ramsgrl909 , to games in "Concord servers are now offline. Thank you to all the freegunners who have joined us in the Concord galaxy"

It’s a shame. This was exactly the game my husband was looking for - Overwatch minus Blizzard

sunbytes ,

Oh don’t worry, there’s going to be more.

A lot of companies are working on live service games in hope of being the next overwatch/destiny.

Some even have multiple (like Sony) in the hope that even one of them takes off.

aphonefriend ,

Have him try deadlock. Valve is a much better option.

felykiosa , to unixporn in Linux is Teal

Your wallpaper look a lot like sawako , so cute ❤️

ColdWater OP ,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

I don’t know who that is but thanks you :D

felykiosa ,

Sawako is an a romance anime about a cute shy introverted girl.

Narauko , to books in What are you currently reading? (09/06/2024)

A bunch of empty calorie LitRPG desserts right now like He Who Fights With Monsters, The Primal Hunter, and Unbound, with my currently active book being the first book in the Infinite Realm series. I am eagerly awaiting Beware of Chicken 4, and I have the latest Bobiverse book queued up as the audiobook dropped this week.

Audiobooks really allowed me to get back into reading due to time constraints, so I almost always have a book going in one ear throughout the day. I cycle between “realer” literature and light fun reads, but have been on a nice trashy kick for a little while now. I am debating another attempt at Malazin Book of the Fallen because I have no idea where I got cut off in my last listen through, and possibly another thrip through of Dune due to the movies and the nearly 2 decades since my last read through.

Blackout , to science_memes in Doritos
@Blackout@fedia.io avatar

That reminds me to take my yellow 5 pill today. The TV has me on that and blue 3 for my anticapitalist tendencies.

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