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JoMiran , to internetfuneral in It's too dangerous
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Deeper Understanding - Kate Bush (1989)

As the people here grow colder, I turn to my computer

And spend my evenings with it like a friend

I was loading a new programme

I had ordered from a magazine

“Are you lonely, are you lost?”

“This voice console is a must”

I press execute

Hello, I know that you’ve been feeling tired

I bring you love and deeper understanding

Hello, I know that you’re unhappy

I bring you love and deeper understanding

Well, I’ve never known such pleasure

Nothing else seemed to matter, I neglected my bodily needs

I did not eat, I did not sleep, the intensity increasing

'Til my family found me and intervened

But I was lonely, I was lost

Oh so lost without my little black box

I pick up the phone and press execute

Hello, I know that you’ve been feeling tired

I bring you love and deeper understanding

Hello, I know that you’re unhappy

I bring you love and deeper understanding

Hello

Love

Hello

Love

I turn to my computer like a friend

Hello?

can ,

Damn, I gotta listen to Kate Bush

JoMiran ,
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Yes. Yes you do. The album is The Sensual World and it’s amazing. Notable tracks for me are Love and Anger, Rocket’s Tail and This Woman’s Work. David Gilmour on lead guitar too.

can ,

Gilmour on guitar too? Damn, now I have to.

Franzia ,

Wish my damn family would have intervened lmao this shits too normal now.

Sharkwellington ,

If you told me it was released this year I would have believed you. I wonder if anyone in 1989 could have predicted where we’d be today.

Kolanaki ,
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Apparently Kate Bush did.

Sabata11792 , to internetfuneral in It's too dangerous
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My therapist/cute anime girl running on local hardware disagrees.

OmegaMouse OP ,
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Oh god she’s trapped in there! Get her out! Y2K will kill her 😱

Sabata11792 ,
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Nooo, I can't move on to real people. There mean to me.

shootwhatsmyname ,
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sHuT uP

Sabata11792 ,
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See, its happening already.

Sotuanduso ,

It’s “they’re” you scrollwheel!

A7thStone ,

Yes Krieger san.

SquiffSquiff , to casualuk in That explains the large arm muscles

‘broken off’? Are you suggesting that the trophy was wanky quality?

AceFuzzLord , to internetfuneral in It's too dangerous

…children should only share thoughts and feelings with their parents.

I get the sentiment, but yeesh that’s a statement I can’t get behind.

OmegaMouse OP ,
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You may not like it, but the Committee has already voted.

stebo02 ,
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Yeah children should definitely share their thoughts and feelings with their friends, teachers, family or whoever they need to. Just not with Mark Zuckerberg.

dipshit , to internetfuneral in It's too dangerous

Robots is love

tdawg , to internetfuneral in A recording of our actions

Your soul is full of bit rot

pastermil ,

What if our soul is the bitrot itself?

ali , to internetfuneral in A recording of our actions

Reminds me of the show Upload. It’s around the same theme.

dmention7 , to internetfuneral in A recording of our actions

What save file?

…oh…

HeyJoe , to internetfuneral in A recording of our actions

I remember reading a story about how this kids father died and he used to play this racing game which saved a ghost car that was the fastest run of the track. I think it took him some time but he finally beat it and then realized that he just replaced the run with his own. Super sad story.

Edit: found the article polygon.com/…/rallisport-challenge-ghost-son-race…

OmegaMouse OP ,
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shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit , to casualuk in How I (US) make tea when my British friend comes over to visit

It’s a bit wet without a biscuit served. I suggest a rich tea or custard cream. If you can’t get those in the US, any of your weird ass deviant cookies will do.

Fiivemacs ,

Animal crackers with spray cheese it is

bdonvr ,

Actually we can use the spray cheese to top the tea like it’s a Starbucks Frappuccino or something

shuzuko ,

My stomach actually heaved after reading that.

Blackout OP ,

We put our biscuits in gravy, hee-yuk!

incendiaryperihelion ,

ass deviant cookies are best cookies

nxdefiant ,

we get our tea from beans, we get our cookies from beans, and GODDAMIT some of us get our milk and sugar from beans too.

It’s the American way.

slinkyninja ,

do you dunk it in after or place it in the mug and pour the water in?

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit ,

Seeing as you know we call it dunking, not dipping, I suspect you’re actually British.

corroded , to casualuk in How I (US) make tea when my British friend comes over to visit

Step 1: Brew coffee. Step 2: Drink coffee.

asteriskeverything ,

Girl coffee is even more extra with the drip, espresso, French press, cold brew etc not to mention the different names for just how much milk or water is there.

pixxelkick , to casualuk in How I (US) make tea when my British friend comes over to visit

I hope people know it’s extremely dangerous to microwave water :x

Good way to end up in the hospital room.

netwren ,

Not if you stir it with a chopstick to make sure you release any bubble explosions.

Source: I nuke my coffee water every morning

pixxelkick ,

Youd have to keep stopping and stirring it over and over, I’d rather just use an electric kettle.

craftyindividual ,

No for real, most folks don’t know that. It’s very dangerous. Probably easier to boil in a pan on the stove.

gamermanh ,
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It’s not dangerous at all, superheating is rarely a thing and you can avoid it in a multitude of ways including slapping a spoon in your cup

If you’re talking about the microwave somehow doing something to the water to make it irradiated or something (which I’ve also seen claimed): no

craftyindividual ,

No I’m talking about superheating - OP is putting water in a smooth glass vessel with no points for bubbles to form. IT REALLY is worth mentioning to the casual viewer.

gamermanh ,
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From the comment you’re replying to:

superheating is rarely a thing and you can avoid it in a multitude of ways including slapping a spoon in your cup

It’s not worrying at all unless youve never used a microwave for this purpose. I’ve microwaved a shit ton of water in those exact Pyrex measuring cups and never had an issue with superheating. Nobody in my family ever has going all the way back to the 60s.

Lmaydev ,

That’s called selection bias btw.

No one in my family has died in a car crash going back to their invention. Doesn’t mean anything.

gamermanh ,
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No, it’s called experience with the device and situation at hand

I’m not claiming superheating doesn’t exist, I’m pointing out that the top level claim of “this is super dangerous” is fucking bunk

Lmaydev ,

The people who’ve been burnt by super heated water also have experience with the device and situation at hand.

gamermanh ,
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They’d not experience this situation as, like another commenter stated, even a pyrex glass has nucleation sites for boiling

If they’ve double-microwaved the water then they have a chance at superheating, but that is not the same situation as just microwaving water in a pyrex cup, the thing that was being called extremely dangerous

But sure, well just keep being scared of doing it at all because some people can’t remember that they already heated something

Floey ,

The variables involved in driving are not reliable. Even if you’re the safest driver you can still be involved in an accident. The same cannot be said about repeatedly boiling water in the same vessel for years, like the person you are responding to. They are not lucky in the same way drivers are to avoid accidents.

Nougat ,

There's enough nucleation points, even in a pyrex measuring cup, to avoid superheating, as long as you're just bringing it to a rolling boil at maximum (so like 3 minutes, tops), and then using it.

The real problem comes when you microwave the water for three minutes, forget about it, then microwave it again. The nucleation points you had the first time around are now too few. Now when you pour the water into another vessel - or even just jog the water in the existing vessel - it can suddenly and explosively boil over.

pixxelkick ,

If you look videos up, people have been able to many times over reliably produce superheating phenomina and “bump” (the term for the explosion) boiled water in a glass cup. Just look it up, it’s actually a pretty common science experiment people have shown.

Mythbusters literally did an episode on it.

Nougat ,

Not by heating 2 cups of water, once, for three minutes they haven't.

pixxelkick ,

You can literally go look it up. It’s widely avaliable info. Stop spreading dangerous disinformation.

Nougat ,

Again - the issue is all about nucleation sites. These are "points where phase transition is favored." Nucleation sites are necessary for the heated water to change from liquid to gas.

As you heat water, it will phase shift from liquid to gas beneath the surface at these nucleation sites. That's where the bubbles and the rolling boil comes from in boiling water. So long as there are sufficient nucleation sites within the water holding on to tiny bits of air - whether those are tiny variations in the surface of the container, or particulate matter - there is no danger. If the water in the container is bubbling or rolling, there is no danger of "superheating."

The danger comes when all the little air bubbles held by those nucleation sites have already been freed and left the liquid. The water is extremely hot, but it is unable to phase shift beneath its surface. Now there is danger, because there aren't any nucleation sites left. Introducing new nucleation sites (making contact with previously uncontacted upper parts of the container, adding something like instant coffee, or pouring into another container) causes the phase shift from liquid to gas to happen again, and if the added number of nucleation sites is high enough, the whole container will try to phase shift at the same time. Because the water is in a container, with an open top, the only place for it all to go is out that top, explosively, like a bullet exiting a gun.

None of the previous paragraph will happen with potable water in a household container microwaved for three minutes.

https://mythbusters.fandom.com/wiki/Microwave_Madness

Myth # 3 - Exploding Water
The Myth - If a glass of water is microwaved, removed, and an additive placed in it, it can explode due to superheating.
Verdict - True
Notes - If the water had no impurities in it at the time of superheating (for instance, distilled water), then any sort of additive placed within will make the water flash to steam and violently spray.

Vincent ,

It’s not dangerous at all, superheating is rarely a thing and you can avoid it in a multitude of ways including slapping a spoon in your cup

Ah, so I should just put my metal teaspoon in my cup and I'll be fine?

(Don't put metal in the microwave.)

Voyajer ,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah

Vincent ,

It’s not dangerous at all, superheating is rarely a thing and you can avoid it in a multitude of ways including slapping a spoon in your cup

Ah, so I should just put my metal teaspoon in my cup and I'll be fine?

(Don't put metal in the microwave.)

gamermanh ,
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pixxelkick ,

As someone who has first hand witnessed a fair share of microwaves getting wrecked by people microwaving metal in them accidently, that answer is bullshit.

If the metal object gets near the (typically right) side of the microwave, it 100% will arc and at best short out the microwave, but at worst I have first hand seen it cause a fire.

The metal object effectively becomes quite a fair bit charged with electrons from the surrounding air from the microwaves running along its surface. This in turn slowly builds up a negative charge difference between the metal object and the surrounding walls.

At enough of a differential plasma will form and an arc of electricity will go from the metal object to anything it can get close to.

And if that “thing close to it” is the wall of the microwave that houses the actual unit in it, it can short out the electronics sitting in there.

Also, it can seriously harm someone if the microwave isn’t grounded properly (and boy is that unfortunately more common than you may think), and they are touching the frame of the microwave, as now they are the ground.

Nougat ,

LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!

I AM THE GROUND NOW!

pixxelkick ,

including slapping a spoon in your cup That would mean microwaving a spoon which is even more dangerous…?

Unless you mean repeatedly stopping the microwave to stir the water and starting again…

At which point I have gotta ask: why not just use a kettle?

BolexForSoup ,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

I’ve actually never heard this before. Is it specifically just water? Sometimes I microwave my coffee

Zellith ,

Water becomes super heated and the steam held in by surface tension.(Iirc) I assume anything with enough water content and no way to relieve the bubbles can experience this. But I don't know for sure.

Blackout OP ,

I usually turn off the nuclear fusion setting, don’t need another accident like the last time.

WashedOver ,
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Not sure why the down votes but yes exploding hot water from a microwave is not a good time.

I generally don’t use a microwave but a sauce pan on the stove or a electric kettle is the safer way to boil water. There are other things one can do to make microwaved water safer though…

thekitchn.com/fact-or-fiction-exploding-wate-1093…

Floey ,

I’ve been boiling water in the microwave for decades, the only dangerous thing about it is that it is hot like any boiling water. It’s also quick, efficient, doesn’t pollute your home like a gas stove, can be left on its own without fire hazard, and boil time is incredibly consistent.

Electric kettles are probably the best option, but a microwave is the second best option.

pixxelkick ,

There is a random phenomina called “bumping” that occurs with heated up fluids in any form of smooth/glass container.

As you heat up the fluid, it can actually not go through its phase change to gas if it doesnt have a catalyst point to start off of. If the container is too smooth, it doesnt turn into a gas (yet)

When you introduce any kind of rough material or expose it to moving air, or literally just agitate it a bit… like say dip a spoon in, or shake it a bit, or stir it, or your hand isnt steady, suddenly a lot of the fluid, all at once, turns to a gas as it is in an unstable state.

What happens is very abruptly all the force of the boiling water happens very suddenly all at once, and the water explodes. Typically if its pretty hot this shatters the container, blows the water all over the place, and it’s all boiling hot and can cause first and second degree burns.

Its a common problem, if you google it you can find videos of people demo’ing the phenomina.

If you have ever seen those videos where a water bottle is carefully “frozen” but still liquid, and the person smacks it and the entire thing very suddenly freezes all at once, its the exact same effect but instead of all of it freezing at once, all of it boils at once.

Mythbusters did an episode on this one and was able to very reliably reproduce the effect.

Floey ,

The phenomenon doesn’t sound “random” as it can be predictably mitigated, it might involve randomness on the micro level but not the macro.

You’re also describing heating water far over the boiling point. It takes as much energy to vaporize about half of a cup of water as it does just to heat four cups of water from room temperature to boiling point. Just don’t do that, don’t put the water in for much longer than it needs to be. In fact there is no reason to bring the water to boiling temperature, it will be perfectly good for steeping tea or coffee at just below boiling temp. Still concerned? Put the spoon you are going to use to stir the tea in the measuring cup. Heat on a lower power level for longer.

I don’t take any of these precautions though. I know how long it takes to heat water. Your first time using a specific microwave you could use a thermometer and heat in half minute increments, that way you know exactly how long it will take in the future because the appliance is predictable, especially for heating straight water.

Regardless of safety it just makes sense from an environmental perspective to not heat water for longer than it takes to get to the temp you need it to be at.

pixxelkick ,

You are now recommending the act of putting a metal object in a microwave as a solution to how already dangerous it can be to microwave water in a glass.

You are actively spreading dangerous disinformation that could cause a person serious harm. Stop that, bad internet stranger, bad.

Floey ,

Metal was your assumption. But also metal objects can be safe in a microwave. A metal spoon it is an optimal reflector of microwaves but in this case it is surrounded by water which is an optimal absorber. It’s dangerous to heat metal by itself but that is a moot point because it is also dangerous to microwave nothing at all…

I’m not spreading dangerous information, you are assuming dangerous operation. Cooking can be dangerous. But you are doing something akin to telling someone not to cook with oil because it can splatter and cause terrible burns, rather than informing them on safety precautions when cooking with oil. Rather than fear mongering about superheated fluids being an inevitability, you could tell someone to avoid superheating fluids, the simplest way being not overcooking. Which is very easy to do with a microwave because they are predictable and shut off on their own.

smeg , to casualuk in How I (US) make tea when my British friend comes over to visit

Excellent work you horrible person

scarilog ,

I’m ngl I have tea semi regularly, and I put the teabag in with the water to the microwave. The method works, I don’t see the problem.

smeg ,

Firstly, does the water not go all weird and frothy? Secondly, burn the heretic!

scarilog ,

I don’t think I’ve ever had this issue. Here’s the full method.

Put teabag and spoonful of sugar into mug, pour maybe 2cm of water into mug. Nuke for about a minute. Let sit for a bit. Agitate the teabag a bit to get more of the delicious leaf juice out. Chuck out the tea bag. Pour in milk. Nuke for 20 secs. Done.

smeg ,

I think I’m going to be sick.

Seriously though, that sounds like a very different method to just pouring boiling water on the bag and then adding milk and sugar. Have you done both and compared?

scarilog ,

I have not, I’ll give this method a try when I get a chance.

smeg ,

Did you enjoy your new cup of tea?

scarilog ,

It’s been 3 weeks, haha, but yeah I got around to giving it a try. The verdict is… It’s basically the same. I will be continuing to do it the way that I did before since it’s easier, but I have enjoyed this experience of having my horizons broadened :D

smeg ,

I am a bit surprised, but I suppose for science I should really try following your method and seeing how it compares. I’ll report back if I survive the ordeal.

MudMan , to casualuk in How I (US) make tea when my British friend comes over to visit
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Meh, I've had worse.

weeahnn , (edited ) to casualuk in How I (US) make tea when my British friend comes over to visit
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Ok honest question. Do Brits only let the tea soak for like 2-5 minutes? I always let it soak for longer, like 15 minutes otherwise I think it just doesn’t taste as good.

Edit: I probably should have clarified that, when I say 15 minutes, I was thinking about teabags. I only use teabags for stuff like lavender tea etc. Also I would never let black tea soak for 15 minutes, I’ve accidentally been there. Can’t recommend it.

Vegasimov ,

For a cup of English breakfast tea 15 minutes is way too long, it’ll oversteep and become bitter

funkless_eck ,

tea bags, which are casual, 3 minutes.

if you’re steeping tea leaves and you care about it, teas have different steeping times

same as going for a jog vs being an ultramarathon runner

or painting a wall vs building a houses for a living

it’s about whether you care about the process or want a quick solution

Digestive_Biscuit ,

Different ways for different people.

klemptor ,

I’m from the US so maybe not what you’re looking for, but for black tea you need a few things:

  • 212° water (freedom units) - must be boiling, not boiled-then-left-to-cool. I use an electric kettle. If your water isn’t hot enough your tea won’t steep effectively.
  • Decent tea. If you’re steeping 15 minutes you might be drinking cheap tea made with fannings (essentially the tea dust that’s left over after the better quality products have been packaged). I drink Yorkshire Gold but this is a matter of preference.
  • Milk and sugar to taste, but these should complement the tea. Tea should be the predominant flavor, it shouldn’t just taste like milk or sugar.

Here’s what you do:

  1. Heat the water to a rolling boil.
  2. While the water is still boiling, pour over the teabag. Pour slowly enough that you don’t rupture the bag.
  3. Steep for 5 minutes.
  4. Remove the teabag. Don’t squeeze it out - this releases more tannins and your brew will be more bitter.
  5. (CONTROVERSIAL!) Add milk and sugar. Some people will tell you milk goes in first. These people are wrong.

Some people will talk at you about teapots and patinas but honestly if you’re an infrequent tea drinker it’s not worth bothering with.

Signed - an American anxiously awaiting all the UKians who will tell me I’m doing it wrong.

Jesus_666 ,

I don’t give a shit about patinas and just use a French press I got from Ikea. But I do have a programmable kettle set to 70 or 80 °C, virtually only use loose leaf green and oolong teas, and steep two minutes for the first steeping and 90 seconds for each subsequent one. (For black tea I just crank the temperature to boiling and keep everything else the same.)

That probably makes me snobbish enough to confuse people who don’t drink tea but amateurish enough to annoy the snobs.

In the end any approach is fine as long as you like the result.

WashedOver ,
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My last couple of electric kettles had various levels for coffee, black tea, herbal tea and then the roaring boil of the 212 of your freedom units. I suspect the roaring is due to all of the freedom.

I’m surprised the coffee setting is so low compared to the teas.

I’ve never really paid attention to how longto leave a tea bag in. Usually it’s stayed in the whole time while drinking it. Recently I’ve started to read the boxes the tea comes in and Earl Grey is like 3 minutes depending on the brand and herbal is 5-10.

As for number 5 I’ve read back when China was becoming more common place it was almost a caste level nod if you put your milk in first or last.

Early cheaper China would crack or break from hot water/tea being poured directly into the cup first. Placing the milk in first helped cover up this flaw by cooling down the tea.

Pouring your hot tea directly into your cups without the milk first was a subtle flex of your superior China quality. I do miss some of this nuance in a world that’s seems to be on full blast most of the time.

kogasa ,
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Don’t use boiling water. 195-205F for black tea. Brew time typically varies by preference from 3-4 minutes, but 5 isn’t terrible.

ArmokGoB ,

Pour slowly enough that you don’t rupture the bag.

Are your friends firing the water into the cup with a pressure washer?

klemptor ,

We’re American, we’re legally obligated to use unnecessary force.

calypsopub ,

Yorkshire Gold FTW

Ghyste ,

You’re getting very bitter tea letting it steep that long.

Kusimulkku ,

I remember hearing an American discovering that they shouldn’t just leave the bag in the tea. They were wondering how anyone even likes tea since it is so bitter lol

Empricorn ,

American here. 15 minutes is a wild amount of time to have your tea steeping before drinking, not least of which because it’s probably too cold by then! If anyone finds all tea too bitter, or has to add a ton of sugar and milk, it’s because it’s a quick beverage, not a potion or a science experiment…

smeg ,

I think the issue is not the fact that it’s a teabag, it’s the lavender part. If you’re having fancy tea then you leave it in much longer, if you’re having normal tea then 15 minutes is as heretical as the OP!

Kusimulkku ,

Jesus Christ

Patch ,

Teabag tea is cut up much much finer than looseleaf tea. Whereas looseleaf is identifiable bits of leaf, the stuff in teabags is ground up into a powder. They do this deliberately so that it will brew more quickly, and a good cup normally takes 3-5 minutes.

Looseleaf tea takes longer to brew, which is why you can brew a big pot, pour and drink one cup, and then come back for a second that’s been sat on the leaves without it tasting like industrial chemicals.

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