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Elliott , to technology in Apple reaches $25M settlement with the DOJ for discriminating against US residents during hiring | The DOJ said that Apple's hiring practices favored visa holders and left out US citizens and perma...

This would be like issuing me a $1 fine for speeding; here’s two dollars, now I’m really gonna speed.

Outtatime , to technology in Apple reaches $25M settlement with the DOJ for discriminating against US residents during hiring | The DOJ said that Apple's hiring practices favored visa holders and left out US citizens and perma...
@Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

The cost of doing business. At the expense of you and I

scytale , to technology in Apple reaches $25M settlement with the DOJ for discriminating against US residents during hiring | The DOJ said that Apple's hiring practices favored visa holders and left out US citizens and perma...

What was the benefit there, paying lower salaries for workers on visas? Can employers pay lower salaries for non citizens/residents?

Dran_Arcana ,

Not just lower base salaries, its also that the good employees are at a greater disadvantage in negotiating raises / work conditions because an employer declining and letting them go instead would mean a loss of a work visa (if they don’t find other work) and potential deportation.

For example, Apple can’t legally mandate an 80hr work week. But being an at-will employer, they CAN just fire anyone working 40hrs/week for nebulous “performance concerns”. Who is more likely to decide to work 80hrs on their own to hit impossible performance targets? The guy who has unlimited time to go find another job or the guy who if he doesn’t find another job in 3 months has to pull his kids out of school and move halfway across the world?

You have a work visa worker by the balls way more than a full citizen.

Doorbook ,

Closed work permit for a single employer is the reason. I think a work permit should be closed to a single employer for 1 year then it can be open which will help reduce employer greed.

wmmc88 ,

Not sure this logic tracks. PERM is a program that transitions the current visa holder workers to instead have a green card (aka no longer need a visa). If I were to follow your logic, Apple would be incentived to make the PERM postings more accessible.

The point of these PERM postings is to prove to DoL that the current employee deserves a green card because they’re not easily replaceable. If a qualified applicant applies to the PERM posting, they are not hired. It just delays the PERM process for the visa worker. If Apple wanted to keep the threat of deportation, doing the opposite of what they were fined would make more sense? Why would they want to fast track a green card for them?

monkeyman512 ,

Easier to abuse position of power. Visa people need to stay employed to stay in country.

Dudewitbow ,

Visa holders are both paid less and willing to put up with more shit in fear of losing their job.

ohlaph ,

And work a shit ton of overtime.

I haven’t worked with very many visa holders until my current position. The visa holders are online working from 7AM to 10PM, all the time.

I’m not working 80 hours a week, sorry. You’re getting 40 hours. I’ll give 45 on occasion.

modifier , to technology in Apple reaches $25M settlement with the DOJ for discriminating against US residents during hiring | The DOJ said that Apple's hiring practices favored visa holders and left out US citizens and perma...

Might as well just call it a fee rather than a fine or settlement.

BlackNo1 , to technology in Apple reaches $25M settlement with the DOJ for discriminating against US residents during hiring | The DOJ said that Apple's hiring practices favored visa holders and left out US citizens and perma...

the US is so anti labor its a joke

gedaliyah , to technology in Apple reaches $25M settlement with the DOJ for discriminating against US residents during hiring | The DOJ said that Apple's hiring practices favored visa holders and left out US citizens and perma...
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Apple made $97 billion this year.

It will take them about 2 hours and 15 minutes to make that money back.

CosmicCleric , to technology in Apple reaches $25M settlement with the DOJ for discriminating against US residents during hiring | The DOJ said that Apple's hiring practices favored visa holders and left out US citizens and perma...
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Penalties should be done in percentages, and not in actual dollar amounts.

BeautifulMind , to technology in Apple reaches $25M settlement with the DOJ for discriminating against US residents during hiring | The DOJ said that Apple's hiring practices favored visa holders and left out US citizens and perma...
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Cool, cool.

Now do every other tech company

breadsmasher , to technology in Volvo's latest EV: A $114k minivan, exclusive to china at launch.
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Its 114,000$ not 114$

Ghostalmedia OP ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Haha, yeah. Auto correct deleted the K

Plopp ,

Damn it! I thought I had finally found a car I can almost afford if I save some money.

Ghostalmedia OP , to technology in Volvo's latest EV: A $114k minivan, exclusive to china at launch.
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Their new Geely ownership has really started to change the company’s products lately.

I don’t quite understand the lazy boy in a minivan thing. Is this a form factor that is big in China?

Tosti , (edited ) to technology in Volvo's latest EV: A $114k minivan, exclusive to china at launch.
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  • Ghostalmedia OP ,
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    Looks like it’s basically the Chinese Zeekr 009 with a Volvo grill and headlights. I guess that explains why the interior design feels very very un-Volvo.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod , to technology in Volvo's latest EV: A $114k minivan, exclusive to china at launch.
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    I'm glad it's not an SUV, and it's pretty crazy it took Volvo this long to make a minivan.

    ohlaph , to technology in Apple reaches $25M settlement with the DOJ for discriminating against US residents during hiring | The DOJ said that Apple's hiring practices favored visa holders and left out US citizens and perma...

    Unless they are forced to make a change, nothing will change.

    angelsomething , to android in Nothing Phone 2 is getting iMessage support this Friday

    Yeah check out the MKHB video about it…. It’s not reassuring that you’re logging with your iCloud credentials into a cloud server that then parses your iMessage to the phone. From a security standpoint, that’s a big no for me as all it takes is the provider getting hacked and then its spoofing galore.

    fartsparkles ,

    Yeah I don’t get why anyone would want this. Just use Signal or something cross platform? It’s like complaining about not being able to message your friend’s Xbox from your PlayStation. Sure, it’d be nice, but I sure as hell wouldn’t provide a random third party with my PlayStation account credentials to achieve it!

    Cralder ,

    I agree with you, but as always its not that simple. For a lot of people all their friends use iMessage and refuse to use anything else because “it’s what I already use”. When you have a PlayStation and all your friends use Xbox, then being able to talk to them despite the security implications becomes quite an attractive feature.

    fartsparkles ,

    In Europe, it’s very normal to use multiple chat apps (WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Threema, etc).

    iMessage isn’t even that good a chat app! It’s really hard to understand this clearly social issue affecting North America from a non-NA perspective.

    angelsomething ,

    It’s specifically for the US market I reckon.

    ayaya ,
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    Those kinds of apps took off in other places because SMS was expensive, but in the US there has been cheap and/or unlimited SMS for a couple of decades now. So people had no reason to use anything else. That means when iMessage came along and transparently covered up SMS it became the standard.

    It is especially bad for teenagers where the iPhone has almost 90% market share. If you are a teen using Android with 9 friends, chances are literally all of them are on iMessage. Good luck trying to convince all 9 of them to install another app just for you. Apple’s indoctrination marketing is so powerful that kids are actually bullied for not having an iPhone.

    QuinceDaPence ,

    @fartsparkles

    Also your 9 friends might just exclude you from group texts, and therefor activities, because they don't want to see the green bubbles. I shit you not.

    pgetsos ,
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    They didn't take off just because SMS was expensive, but because they offer a much better experience with many more features

    ayaya ,
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    Sure, but pricing was the main driver. There doesn’t seem to be readily available historical pricing data but even as late as 2018 the price of SMS in Europe seemed to be €0.07-0.11 . Which means it was even more expensive back in the early 2010s when WhatsApp and others were beginning to take off. For the US the price per message is and has been $0. I think the extra features were ultimately just a bonus when compared to being able to send messages for free. The fact the US still hasn’t switched is proof enough that it being a better experience is not enough to compel people to change off of the default. Money is a huge motivator.

    pgetsos ,
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    Since at least 15 years ago, a ton of SMS were included in the contract or add-on packages for your phone, and data were much more expensive comparatively. In my country specifically, unlimited data has only been a thing for 1-2 years, and we have cheap data for less than 5-7 years. But we always had something like 1.500 SMS included in even the cheapest contracts for 10+ years

    Cralder ,

    I’m European. My whole family (except me) uses iMessage and all my friends use iMessage or Facebook messenger. Its a problem here too.

    30p87 ,

    Because most Apple users don’t even know what a phone actually is and don’t give a fuck about anything related to anything technical, apart from having the newest (same as always) device. Otherwise they wouldn’t be Apple users.

    sparky ,
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    This is a really disingenuous argument even for /c/android. iOS has many pitfalls with the walled garden effect but it also has many advantages with regard to software quality, consistency and performance (particularly at an API level, speaking as a developer for both platforms). If we write them off as bad, dumb or irrelevant then we forego the opportunity to improve our own apps and Android as a platform. Google does not have a monopoly on good ideas nor on technical users - one could note that Android itself is developed on Macs, as Silicon Valley developer workstations are almost universally Apple hardware…

    mp3 ,
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    I kinda blame Apple on this one, they’re the one forcing all these kind of insecure workaround in order to gatekeep their platform, ultimately it’s more about their bottomline than privacy.

    sparky ,
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    Former Google and current Apple engineer here; this is definitely an insecure workaround with a lot of flaws. I think Beeper is basically doing the same.

    The reality is that while we do have a lot of walled garden policies for business reasons (which I don’t love), iMessage and FaceTime are a bit more complicated than that, tightly coupled around the hardware encryption and keystore in the TPM in our devices. Unwinding this would be undesirable from a compatibility perspective as it would break any Apple devices not updated immediately to new OS versions that change the encryption scheme.

    So the only way to plug into iMessage per se is a weird workaround like this where you basically AppleScript automate the Messages app on a Mac with its shields down.

    There’s not a great way to fix this problem which is largely why we are bringing RCS support to iOS 18 to hopefully make such things moot.

    But that said even as an employee I don’t think iMessage is a great example of a modern chat app. I mean, it’s better than SMS which is what it sought out to replace. But compared to an actual chat app - something like Telegram - it doesn’t hold up.

    kuneho ,
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    I don’t think iMessage is a great example of a modern chat app.

    it’s like the default ringtone. people just don’t give a damn to change it, regardless how it sounds.

    tacosanonymous , to retrogaming in The Analogue Pocket will soon come in eight Game Boy Pocket/Advance colors

    These are stupidly expensive. I’ve seen kits that are 1/3 this price. Or, if you love spending money, machines that do more for the same price.

    deft ,

    A kit? what do you mean? I would love one of these

    tacosanonymous ,
    BartsBigBugBag ,

    Just because they’re both FPGA based products does not mean they’re equivalent. The Pocket can use its FPGAs to replicate dozens of different consoles and arcade units. It also has sleep mode and save states when using original cartridges.

    Without adapters or OpenFPGA, the pocket can play GB, GBC, GBA original carts. With adapters, you can add in Neo Geo and Game Gear carts, and with open FPGA, you can add in NES, SNES, Genesis, Master System, dozens of arcade units, and dozens more I’m just forgetting. I personally have DigDug, Q Bert, and all the ones I mention above on mine.

    The hardware alone on the Pocket is a massive upgrade over Funnyplaying, but when you include the OpenFPGA support, they’re not even in the same league. Not to trash the funny playing one, I think it’s great. It’s just not the same product category even imo.

    deft ,

    what about what he shared? can it not do that?

    BartsBigBugBag ,

    Edit: sorry I misread.

    No, what he shared cannot do most of that. It can play game boy cartridges though.

    ReallyActuallyFrankenstein , (edited )

    An $80 kit that has an FPGA and swappable cores, super-high resolution screen, to build a machine in a similarly portable form factor? Where exactly have you seen that?

    PrettyLights ,

    You’re commenting on an FPGA handheld with OLED, not an AliExpress android clone. Where are you seeing kits for less?

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