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USSEthernet , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

And I’m assuming they’re not adding any benefits for the cost like more audio book hours on the family plan…

BigMacHole , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

It’s a good thing we haven’t risen Wages between last Price Hike and this Price Hike. Otherwise Spotify might be forced to Raise Their Prices!

LainTrain , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

It’s time to move away. Anyone know how to download the metadata of a playlist? That’s the only thing keeping me subbed.

d3m0nr4v3r ,

Yes there are several solutions, just search for Spotify Playlist Backup/Export. There are free services as well as GitHub projects. You of course have to link your account with the free service.

sunbytes , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

Just a reminder that the Tidal family account at the maximum subscription “grade” costs €16.

So you and 4x buddies can get very high quality audio for €3.20/mth.

Phegan ,

I tried tidal for a bit, but ran into a number of issues with the various privacy methods I used and the lack of a Linux native client made it difficult to justify staying.

I am currently running a navidrome server and supporting artists directly for their music where possible.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

I listen to a lot of smaller black metal bands. Can Tidal keep up?

sunbytes ,

Best way to find out is to search for all of them inside Tidal. I don’t know if you need to make a free account or what to do it.

They usually have great black Friday deals though. I think I paid like €2/mth for my first year.

dependencyinjection ,

I switched to Tidal recently from AppleMusic and I like it.

It should be noted if you’re listening through Bluetooth like most people then you can’t get high quality.

Also, they allow you to copy your music from other services, using a third party service which was great. It does have a charge and annoyingly it is a recurring charge. So I signed up, transferred my music and then cancelled.

I then sent them a message to say it sucks that they don’t have a one of few for doing this. If you use it and agree I would send them a similar message so they get the idea that most people don’t need continuous syncing.

LodeMike ,

What the fuck kind of service is that? Aren’t there free ones—there were the last time I checked.

dependencyinjection ,

Tune My Music.

To be honest I didn’t search for any, and just used where Tidal sent me. It was £3 to transfer it all.

LodeMike ,

Him. There’s another one I don’t remember its name.

TheOakTree ,

Soundiiz. I used it to transfer my playlists one by one, for free.

filcuk ,

The bluetooth remark is a bit misleading, there are codecs that provide better audio, which is even noticeable on somewhat low Spotify quality.
If you have earphones that support LDAC for example (sony XMs are popular where I live), you can even use that with Windows via 3rd party software (search Win A2DP - not free, but can recommend).

dependencyinjection ,

Codecs for iOS and Android?

As I imagine that’s where the most people are streaming from.

filcuk ,

They’re all proprietary, so it’s less than ideal.
LDAC is owned by Sony and supported by some Androids.
Samsung has their own codec, Apple does too - each vendor locked.
Then there’s Qualcomm’s aptX/HD, which should now be fully supported by Android.

I don’t use apple, so can’t comment on other options there.

dependencyinjection ,

Thanks. That helps enough for me to search it not on Google

TheOakTree ,

FiiO BTR5 + LDAC + IEMs have been working super well for me. I don’t really use wireless with Windows, but I’m considering payiny for A2DP regardless, as it worked very well and may come in handy eventually.

riodoro1 ,

I fucking hate what apple music has become. Their clients are a complete disaster. Im gradually switching to tidal and the only thing that pisses me off is an ad for waze that comes up while you’re driving which cannot be disabled.

dependencyinjection ,

Im torn as I listen to many genres and one of them being Classical Music. Apple having a dedicated app for that is a major plus, so I imagine I’ll be going back at some point. Although I do agree the regular music app is not great.

In fact I love using iPhone as I geek out with my job but I want my phone to be stress free, just I don’t use many Apple stock apps.

sag , (edited ) to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

Wow Anyway I use RiMusic

Churbleyimyam , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

Cool. I trust that extra money will be going to the artists who upload their music!

Avatar_of_Self ,

Probably going to Joe Rogan’s “over $200” million deal with Spotify instead.

return2ozma , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again
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If your library supports it, there’s Freegal music. It’s the library version of Spotify.

freegalmusic.com

BonesOfTheMoon ,

Nice!

Wahots , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again
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I wish we could offload podcasts and audio books. I have zero interest in them, or paying for them.

madcaesar ,

And fucking Joe asshole Rogan. We’re paying for his Neanderthal 150 million contract.

cyberpunk007 OP ,

I like them but not on my music service. It’s in my way all the time. I have audible and I use a different app for podcasts. At least give me the option, but they won’t because I’m sure they get an incentive.

Qwaffle_waffle ,

I use libby via local library for audiobooks.

Drummyralf , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

About 10 years ago I got rid of most of my cd’s because I thought I would just use spotify. Now I’m slowly gathering a cd collection again from thriftstores (or buy albums in store if it’s newer music and I want to support the artist). I rip them all to flac and add them to my Plex.

I’ve noticed I listen to music more now. I find new cool songs by artists by listening through whole albums again. Because of the time commitment of ripping and physically flipping through cd’s, I actually care again about the music that I gather and listen.

x0chi ,

There should be a app that worked with most music players and with the data suggest new things to try. Something that worked with local players, streaming players, etc. Something like the concept of last.fm but with good suggestions.

I can’t believe that these days we don’t get one app like that. Even streaming apps with all the data they got from listing hours and still fail around 40 to 60% with my suggestions, and rarely suggest something that I haven’t heard before.

Nowadays with the state of efficient AI in learning from patterns, and still nothing mind-blowing like a kind of MiniMe that has almost the same tastes but have heard more stuff than you and can recommend as a more educated version of you. That is something that I would want to, hell if it worked so well and to have it, I would have to pay , then I would pay up to a price.

Drummyralf ,

Although not tied to your collection, you might find Everynoise cool and interesting.

BigBrainBrett2517 ,

Holy crap, yes. This is amazing. Thank you.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Eh, I just switched to audiobooks. I get them from my library and listen while I drive, work in the yard, ride my bike, etc.

I’d really like a self-hosted smart speaker though that I could call out a song and it would play. So like Alexa, but all the AI is local. I’m willing to pay for the music service, but I need to own the platform and be able to change music services easily. The only time I really listen to music is when entertaining friends/family, and using my phone is getting old.

x0chi , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

In the early 90s I used to pay around 10 to 15 euros (20 to 30 with current inflation) for each CD release.

And still we still complain nowadays.

We got a problem with the streaming industry but it’s not the price we pay. We must be reasonable, say that the price is 15 bucks, is that really unreasonable for getting at your fingertips and everywhere most of the music even produced? I don’t.

I think the major problem with Spotify isn’t Spotify problem, but an industry problem. If I remember correctly, Spotify gets around 30%, then there’s the distributor, and it gets around 40%. Whatever’s left of the cake is divided between the label and the artist depending on the contract. The industry created something that didn’t need to exist, another intermediate, the distributor. First apple used them cause of the work they do arranging all the needed metadata and keeping it tidy. The industry created them, now it can’t get rid of them, and they “eat” the most part of the money.

Spez ,

Then why does tidal for the same price as spotify with way less users pay four times as much to the artists than spotify? Spotify has the largest market share and now they are trying to milk the cow as much as they can because people are too lazy to switch. Most people don’t even know that you can transfer playlists. Same with Netflix (although they at least have more exclusive content).

TheOakTree ,

I don’t really like Tidal, but this is why I have stuck with Tidal instead of switching back to Spotify. At least the artists get more money, and I get my higher bitrate. Now it seems that prices are getting even closer to parity, so that’s less of a reason to switch back.

I considered trying Qobuz or Deezer, but I’m too lazy to switch right now.

redcalcium ,

Then why does tidal for the same price as spotify with way less users pay four times as much to the artists than spotify?

I wonder why too. Spotify takes a 30% cut, but even if Tidal takes 0% cuts, how come it can pays 4x as much to artists? There must be more to the math to make it check out.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Royalties come out of profits.

Profits = revenue - costs.

Inflate costs (pay 3rd parties you also own) and pay less royalties.

At least that’s how the movie business works.

Karyoplasma , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

Their CEO just boasted about how making content for their platform comes with zero cost for the creators. So, why are they raising rates? Is the whole “you pay to support the creators” trope a lie? I am confused.

/s

johannesvanderwhales ,

Well it’s probably the music labels. They basically only exist to steal money from the actual creators.

BonesOfTheMoon , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

I was a Google Play Music person and loved it, and then they changed to YouTube. I got mad and tried Apple Music, but as a classical music lover it’s vastly less than ideal for several reasons, so I went to Spotify and realized they liked to shuffle Britney Spears into me listening to lieder, so I went back to YouTube because at least they didn’t do that. But it’s just so basic compared to the absolute perfection that was GPM, and difficult to navigate. I don’t know where to go next. I’ve been buying records on Bandcamp but I also like the streaming service to discover music with.

TheOakTree ,

Just to let you know, Tidal is not that great either.

Frequently having issues with downloaded albums, where I go into offline mode, pull up an album, and it says “can’t connect” despite being in offline mode and the album taking up storage space on my phone.

Also, the discovery and new releases sections aren’t very well made.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

It doesn’t sound great. Maybe I’ll just use Bandcamp only. It’s just some classical albums are only on certain platforms.

Screemu ,

High chance they’re all on Slsk as lossless files. That and foobar2000 and you’ll be back in control of your music listening habits. Then buy physical from the artists if you want to support them and they offer a way to obtain it.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

Please speak to me like I’m dumb and explain all of this.

FarFarAway ,

You could check out deezer. It’s European and they have a classical music section. Not sure how good it is. It’s like $110 for a yearly subscription and they offer hi-fi streaming. Just another option for you to check out. 🤷

BonesOfTheMoon ,

Sounds good actually. I wonder if I can look at their content and see if they have what I want before subscribing? Any idea?

FarFarAway , (edited )

The app won’t let you without signing in, I don’t think, but i think the website does. Try this link or you can go to deezer.com and if you go to the hamburger menu at the bottom it has an “explore channels” option.

Edit: It’s odd they don’t let people browse I’m a more friendly way. And just so you know, once you sign up, you can search, make playlists, download for offline etc, the mostly same as spotify. When u first sign up, it also give you the option to migrate all your spotify plsylists over. Out of my thousands of songs saved, it did have 2 or 3 that didn’t transfer over due to just not having it.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

I think I’ll try it. Can’t hurt. YouTube is such a hot mess.

ezvk ,

You should get back to apple music, they launched an app dedicated to classical music, and it’s by far the best for this type of music. Also it’s lossless 24 bits

BonesOfTheMoon ,

Unfortunately due to licensing there’s a lot of stuff I want they don’t have, and some of it I can’t purchase.

itstoowet ,

I was also a Google music enjoyer and also find the other streaming options pretty crappy. I’ve actually moved over to more curated options like internet radio for when I’m not in the mood for anything specific. Shout-out to NTS, I love you.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

What is NTS?

Cyberpunk3000 ,

nts.live internet radio from London

GbyBE ,

If you like classical music, give qobuz a try… High quality audio, large selection of classical music.

ppercipio ,

Thanks for this, never heard of them!

jeremyparker ,

If you like to upload your own music (like Google music), iBroadcast is the tippy tops. You can still use bandcamp (with or without yt-dlp) for discovery, and then upload what you like to iBroadcast.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

Nice suggestion thank you!

bluemite ,

Maybe try Napster: www.napster.comSounds a bit like a joke, but it’s not. It used to be Rhapsody, but was re-branded.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

I’m ok with that!

Yerbouti , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

Obligatory Fuck Spotify comment.

kandoh , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

Quality isn’t good enough to justify the price. Apple Music and Tidal have better quality of sound.

Lianodel , (edited )

even apart from audio quality, Spotify is just plain terrible as a music library.

For someone who lives in playlists, it might be fine. But I like to pick and choose albums and songs, and be able to sort the whole collection on the fly. Spotify, and unfortunately a whole bunch of the competition, will have three separate lists for “liked” songs, albums, and artists. Only want to save the studio tracks, and not the demos and live versions? Fuck you, you can like the album or not, it’s all or nothing! And the special edition is the only version we have! enjoy the solid hour of shittier versions of the songs you actually wanted!

cordlord , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

I switched to Tidal and the only thing I miss is the lyric search. Otherwise, far better platform.

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