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Nusm , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again
@Nusm@yall.theatl.social avatar

I get Apple Music for “free” as part of my Verizon plan, so I’ll keep using it.

(Yes I know it’s not really free but worked into the cost of my plan, but I don’t pay a separate streaming music service, so there’s that.)

where_am_i ,

wow,lemmy hates corpos but upvotes this guy, jeez

modifier , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

There are literally two albums that I love that I can’t find on Bandcamp or piracy, but they are literally the only thing keeping my Spotify subscription alive right now.

I think I’m just going to have to stream them into my DAW and do a poor man’s rip, then cancel this shit ass.

gccalvin ,

Are they on Deezer? If so, look into deemix-gui.

modifier ,

I’m not familiar with Deezer but will investigate. Thank you!

flappy ,

Has there been a new maintainer for deemix? Can you use it again without paying for a Deezer subscription?

gccalvin ,

No, development is still stalled. You need to pay if you want the really high bit rate flac downloads. I pay and can use Deezer as a backup to Jellyfin in the event there’s a song I don’t have and I’m driving. I was looking at music fab, but it’s expensive, the Spotify downloader has worse quality, and doesn’t grab the cover art, which is probably a deal breaker for me.

TransplantedSconie ,

What are the albums?

lucas ,
@lucas@fitt.au avatar

@modifier Now I'm curious what these magical albums are, that are not on the internet!

modifier ,

They are on the internet, but only streaming on the Big Bads. If you can find me a hookup I will be forever grateful.

The first Album, and the toughest case is an album by a band called Porter from Guadalajara. I have all of their albums except for my very favorite, Las Batallas.

The second album really should be on Bandcamp, and probably will eventually, since the band has a page there. It’s the most recent and self-titled release from an awesome little band called Mo Lowda and The Humble.

All else aside, I highly recommend these bands to anyone who likes good rock music. Both albums are no-skip for me but two standout tracks for each: for Las Batallas you have got to check out “Himno Eterno” and “Hombre Maquina”. For Mo Lowda, “O.O.Y.O” and “Dog At The Pound”

The irony of these being the two I haven’t been able to add to my Plex library is that these are probably the two most prominently featured albums on Spotify Wrapped last year.

modifier ,

@TransplantedSconie answered above

young_broccoli ,

¡¡¡A huevo, Porter!!!
Ese ya lo tengo, namas deja lo subo a mediafire o algo.

young_broccoli ,

I just realized you dont speak spanish. Anyways, I got you with the porter album but for some reason I cant send you a DM so heres the "link".

/file/0i0zdiod15qq0uj/Porter-Las_Batallas.zip/file

Its on mediafire.

young_broccoli ,

And heres the molowda one:

/file/0axze87gwx3awif/Mo+Lowda+and+the+Humble.zip/file

Also mediafire c:

modifier ,

Amazing! Thank you so much. I said F you to Spotify earlier this afternoon with the help of you and another Lemmy user. I hope I can help someone else as much as you’ve helped me.

Appoxo ,

Going overseas makes so many albums disappear due to “muh licensing” and “technology and convience stinks” (cough japan)

So many musics are not available beyond catching limited sales and/or physical only.
Newer stuff isnt as bad but the <2010s are often pretty hard to find.

MorrisonMotel6 ,

Seriously? Like, finding and buying those two CDs used would be cheaper than maintaining a Spotify subscription.

modifier ,

No kidding. Consider the possibility that this was the first avenue I pursued and was nevertheless stymied in my efforts.

One of the bands only sells vinyl outside of Spotify (I have the record on Vinyl, but the process of digitizing it is similar to recording straight from Spotify but harder), and the other band is based in Mexico and doesn’t have a digital marketplace. In both cases I’ve literally emailed the bands offering to overpay for raw digital files but haven’t heard back yet. I am seriously considering flying to Guadalajara to catch them live and pick up a CD there. They don’t really tour in the US north of Texas.

But I’ll keep my eye out for CDs.

MorrisonMotel6 ,

That does seem like a pickle. There is a band that is (well, WAS) LOCAL to me and I still couldn’t get digital files. I was bitching about on reddit a while back, and I got a DM from someone who sent me an email with the files. They’re in 320mp3, but better than what I had before.

Good luck with that, and have fun in Guadalajara if you go!

modifier ,

Well you just hooked me up with the album I’d all but given up on, so thank you tremendously. Since I at least have the other album on Vinyl, I think I am going to pull the trigger and cancel my Spotify now. Now I don’t exactly need to go to Guadalajara, though I hope to see Porter live one day.

Thanks again for your help!

MorrisonMotel6 ,

I hope you go to the show anyway.

I regret not going to shows of artists that just can’t be seen anymore

modifier ,

I know I will eventually. I also just really want to support them, and will buy a copy of all of their albums whenever I am able to. I don’t even speak spanish but their music just lights me up.

Amir ,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

Check if they’re on Tidal, Deezer or Qobuz, then your problem is solved

modifier ,

Thanks! I wrote off Tidal as an also-ran like a decade ago and haven’t heard of the others so these were not on my radar at all. I will check them out. I didn’t even know Tidal was still a thing!

Amir ,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

The reason is that you can find lossless rippers for all of them, so you could archive the files and use them anywhere

BlindFrog ,

Zotify?

Appoxo ,

shirt-dev/zspotify will do fine actually downloading the audio.

Edit: The original repository got nuked and this seems to be a fork. Proceed at your own discretion (I used the original repo and a dummy account)

homesweethomeMrL , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

What’s “spotify”?

EpicFailGuy ,
@EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a paid alternative to “Spot-X” and “BlockTheSpot” 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

cordlesslamp ,

Tell me more.

BorgDrone ,

It’s the “we have Apple Music” at home of streaming services.

Basically: more expensive, shitty UI, no lossless or high-res audio. Oh, and they pay the least to artists of all streaming services.

Fogle , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

Wonder what it will go to in Canada. Glad I dropped Spotify for YouTube

cyberpunk007 OP ,

I am the reverse. After the Google play music killing, ytm was worse. Ytm might be killed any time.

Fogle ,

Yeah I never used Google Play music and I only started Spotify because my car had integration for it. I used prime music for a while just cause it was free.

If YouTube premium becomes shit I’ll have to look into options

Lexam , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

It is worth the extra features, like not being able to remove an unwanted podcast from your play list. Why Spotify, why!?

archomrade , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again
Appoxo ,

Spotify locks music is new to me? And for the few Podcasts I personally couldnt care less

archomrade ,

Platform agnostic = you own the mp3/FLACC/ect file, and can play it through whatever client you want

Platform Locked = you do not own the files, and they are DRM locked to their proprietary media player (see: spotify, kindle, ect)

Of course there are ways around those locks, but it’s illegal to remove DRM protections (in the us)

Appoxo , (edited )

Gotcha.
Thought of it in a more of a Exclusive-To-Platform kind of way.

archomrade ,

Yea I figured, no worries

lud ,

You can switch to another service any time you want though.

archomrade ,

You’ll own nothing and you’ll like it

lud ,

It’s way cheaper though.

archomrade ,

Idk if I owned as many cds as I’ve spent on music subscriptions I’d own more high fidelity music than I’d know what to do with

where_am_i ,

BS. One new CD is at least 10$. A good band collection is then a year worth of subscription fees. So, do you only listen to a few bands?

Before Spotify I pirated everything. In lossless, ofc. I had 200GB of music, it wouldn’t fit on my ipod classic, and I still was limited.

I pirated at least a lifetime worth of Spotify premium and yet when I switched to Spotify I discovered so many more artists like the ones I already liked. If I now tried to buy all the songs I’ve listened to more than once in the last 5 years, I’d go bankrupt.

Spotify is way cheaper.

(now add ease of discovering new music, listening to whatever your friends want to listen to in a car, collaborative playlists, etc etc)

archomrade ,

Hey if you find value in paying a subscription go nuts, I won’t throw shade

but i used spotify for almost 15 years. Averaged out to $8 a month that’s more than $1400, and how much of that music do you think I own?

You can do what you want with your money but I’m not paying another dime to subscription streamers. For discovery there’s still radio and youtube and ad-supported streamers, and I still find new artists at music festivals and local venue concerts all the time.

Spotify is a solution in search of a problem.

Emoba ,

You’ll own nothing and you’ll like it

I won’t throw shade

Danquebec ,

There’s Bandcamp, also, for discovery.

BarbecueCowboy , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

I’m all for going sailing but if there are features you want that that can’t quite replicate, it’s also a great time to look at a VPN service with a server in Turkey… Sign up on a Turkish IP and the exchange rate puts you under $2/month USD. This works for a lot of other things too.

lickmygiggle ,

I love you.

BarbecueCowboy ,

I know.

Nommer ,

I believe a dude on YouTube for a very popular streamer used an IP from Argentina to get 50 subs for YouTube premium to giveaway for only a couple bucks.

jjjalljs , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

Still happily buying music on Bandcamp. Their discovery stuff is pretty good, too.

vividspecter ,

I’ll add the old school method of scrobbling to last.fm for discovery still works pretty well too, and you can play music directly there now using Youtube (probably been there for years I assume). Just found some pretty obscure stuff that isn’t even available on the mainstream streaming services, so that’s a win.

jjjalljs ,

I forgot last.fm existed. I sort of used them years ago.

They did not handle separate artists with the same name gracefully at all. The page for a riot-grrl adjacent band and an Australian rapper (?) got merged and the fans were going at it on the page.

Looks like it’s still kind of a problem

anthony , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again
@anthony@lemmy.cif.su avatar

Who else is still using YouTube Music ReVanced?

JSens1998 , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

I don’t understand why people pay for a music subscription when you can just use YouTube Music (ReVanced or FOSS YTMusic clients) for the freezies.

soloner ,

Do those things give you DJ and radio options? I’m too lazy to go find the songs I want. I’d rather just let the app put on tunes and learn what I like based on feedback and behavior.

JSens1998 ,

SimpMusic allows you to login to your Google account, and will sync your YTMusic recommendations. It also has radios. :)

InternetUser2012 , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

People still use spotify? Huh, TIL.

kworpy ,

literally just get audio files of whatever you wanna listen to and plop it on funkwhale

douglasg14b ,
@douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

You… Are kidding right?

You would have to be living under a proverbial rock to have no inkling that Spotify is a product still in use, or be willfully ignorant.

It’s like saying:

  • People still use Google?
  • People still drive cars?
  • People still use Windows?
  • People still go to churches?

…etc

Not that I agree that we should use Spotify. But playing pretend that they are small, irrelevant, and have no effect on the industry they are in isn’t doing us any favors when it comes to pushing back against it.

InternetUser2012 ,

You on their payroll? You sound like you’re on their payroll. Everyone I know ditched that garbage years ago.

TheOakTree ,

Ah yes, you know so many people that it somehow becomes equivalent to a healthy sample size of the entire human population. Got it.

InternetUser2012 ,

You ok? You seem really triggered over this.

TheOakTree ,

Not at all! I had fun typing out the comment while considering the implications of your comment! :P

Thanks for the good time.

douglasg14b ,
@douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

Most people tend to be triggered by ignorance paraded as knowledge and petulant personal attacks due to an inability to engage like an adult.

To be fair.

douglasg14b ,
@douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

fails to see reality

Reality is shown to them

Doubles down on their ignorance of reality

This thread is a textbook example of:

Don’t argue with morons. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Instead of actually arguing the topic at hand you are trying to drag all repliers down to your level, act in bad faith, and beat them with personal attacks 🤣

Classic.

InternetUser2012 ,

That was a lot of typing to avoid a simple question. You’re either a shill or you’re on their payroll.

NikkiDimes ,

Spotify is the only good music app my car supports. It is what it is.

SpiceDealer , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again
@SpiceDealer@lemmy.world avatar
ulkesh , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again
@ulkesh@lemmy.world avatar

SpotX works quite well.

jpeps , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again

For anyone who hasn’t checked their Spotify subscription for a while, I recently discovered a new basic tier created underneath the premium one that is a little cheaper simply by not including the ‘free’ 15 hours of audiobooks. I’ve never used it and don’t intend to. YMMV.

cyberpunk007 OP ,

Is the audio quality the same?

jpeps ,

Yeah! It’s ‘premium’ in all ways except that audiobook offer. Prettttyyyy shitty behaviour from them.

lazycouchpotato , to technology in Spotify is raising the cost of Premium subscriptions, again
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t mind paying $10/mo for access to millions of songs on demand, even if the caveat is that I don’t own anything at the end of my subscription.

I understand costs have gone up, so I can accept a $1 increase in subscription. The problem is that Spotify wants to do a bunch of side projects at my expense. I have no interest in podcasts or audiobooks yet I must fork up the extra money to fund it. I have no say in what my money is being used for and I hate that.

It’s why I moved from it to Tidal and then to Apple Music (even though I’m on Android). Both have their own issues but at least they’re focused on music.

exanime ,

Hope you like Joe Rogan and the crap he peddles because he is getting a nice chunk of Spotify money… I left because of that particular deal

GenEcon , (edited )

The problem is that Spotify is losing money each year. They aren’t profitable. And if they are keep focusing on music, they never will. Their deal with the music labels says that they need to give 70 % of each subscription to the music labels. So by getting more people to signup, they only marginally increase their revenue. Same goes for raising their prices.

Thats why they tried focusing on Podcasts and Audiobooks. Those are a lot more profitable, either by adding ads (Podcasts) or by charging a premium (audiobooks).

JohnEdwa ,

Spotify also has 236 million premium subscribers.
Let’s assume everyone paying US prices and nobody decides to cancel because of this - both of which are false - that $1 increase would mean Spotify users pay 2.8 billion USD more per year and Spotify gets a cool 850 million.

lazycouchpotato ,
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

Interesting. I wasn’t aware that they weren’t profitable.

Funny enough, right after your comment I got recommended this video on YouTube talking about the points you mentioned: youtu.be/yDWgOwb8kj4

Spedwell ,

There is an episode of Tech Won’t Save Us (2024-01-25) discussing how weird the podcasting play was for Spotify. There is essentially no way to monetize podcasts at scale, primarily because podcasts do not have the same degree of platform look-in as other media types.

Spotify spent the $100 million (or whatever the number was) to get Rogan exclusive, but for essentially every other podcast you can find a free RSS feed with skippable ads. Also their podcast player just outright sucks :/

kwirky ,

It’s amazing to think how incompetent their management must be that they’re charging more, delivering lower audio quality, and paying less to artists than competitors like Tidal, yet still aren’t profitable.

GenEcon ,

They pay less than Tidal claims it pays. So far Tidal has a really bad history of publishing correct numbers.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Hang on. 70% of the subscription before any royalty / streaming costs?

So in a $10 payment, $7 is immediately removed, then another say $1 for streaming costs leaving only $2 for profits which Spotify takes 30%?

From each $10 only $1.40 goes to artists?

GenEcon ,

From the 10 Dollar, taxes will be deducted. Afterwards Apple or Google take their share (if you subscribe using the App). Of the remaining money the Music labels take 70 %, and Spotify keeps 30 %. The music labels pay a fraction of the 70 % to the artists, depending on the contract and the artist’s share of streams reported by Spotify.

Manalith ,

Any particular reason you went from Tidal to Apple Music? I see a lot of people here recommending it, so I’d be interested to hear any negatives it has.

lazycouchpotato ,
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

The simple reason is because I got a lengthy free trial for it (saving me money on the Tidal sub) and then stuck around.

Apple Music was hot garbage when I started using it but over the months of my trial it improved tremendously - to a point where there isn’t much difference between it and Tidal. App performance is good now, it provides song recommendations for your playlists, many bugs I was facing have been fixed.

The Android Auto experience is better for me compared to Tidal, it has Shazam integration (Spotify does too, Tidal doesn’t) and it has many of the Japanese city pop songs I like that Tidal was missing.

I can always jump ship if needed. Services like Soundiiz and TuneMyMusic make it pretty easy.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

I don’t mind paying $0/mo for access to millions of songs with limited skipping and occasional adverts. ,

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