I honestly never even considered that it was a slur. Sometimes you are having a discussion where gender identity is relevant, and in that situation it is useful to be able to clearly indicate that someone is cisgender.
I don’t think classifying cisgender as a slur is defendable, especially on its own.
Not saying it is a slur, but I’ve seen it used like a slur before, mostly coupled with “white” and “men”/“women”. But I’m fairly sure Elon himself is against censoring language for that reason (when it comes to things that don’t personally offend him). It just seems dumb and hypocritical to me
The word was created so the official opposite of transgender is not simply the word “normal”. Treating cisgender as a slur is just attacking transgender people.
I agree completely. The whole manufactured discussion about it it ridiculous. Conservative love to be able to point at social values and try to claim there is simply an opposite alternative fact that’s completely contradictory to it on the conservative spectrum. Did you notice when they normalized leftist?
When I first heard it, I assumed it was a slur because the closest common use English word is cissy.
But then I like… looked it up.
Basically, I can understand how some folks initially think it’s a slur, but this conservative overreaction is clearly in bad faith and it’d almost certainly happen whatever the fuck the word was.
The way the users of that slur is used… yeah it does come off as a slur. As if, “cis-gender” (lol) is a degrading label. You can call me a cis-gender… you might get a laugh out of me but that’s about it.
You can call me a cis-gender… you might get a laugh out of me but that’s about it.
Because nobody has seriously threatened your life for being cisgender, nobody has harassed you in a coordinated fashion because you are cisgender, cisgender is just a term that can be applied to you that doesn’t really affect you either way.
Words that are slurs are the record of violence and suffering inscribed into letters, you can’t treat those words the same and the fact that Musk is doing this is pathetic as fuck.
plenty of people get harassed, abused, and threatened for being cisgendered. you’re a nut if you think being trans has some sort exclusivity on gender violence. both cis men and women have been threatened and labeled as threats due to their gendered conformity. being in a minority doesn’t mean you get a monopoly on being treated like shit.
and when you hang out around trans communities, they very much do actively use the term as a slur, even against each other.
being in a minority doesn’t mean you get a monopoly on being treated like shit.
True but being in a significant majority however does mean you get a monopoly on being able to wield actual societal and structural power (whether it be through family relationships, social relationships, the workplace, healthcare services and any number of other contexts) to hurt groups of people. Being part of the majority, at any point you can divest from the social contract and just look over at somebody who is almost exactly the same as you and say “well, we know which side we are on wink”. Having agency over when you and your group honors the social contract and basic rules of communities (i.e. you don’t show up to peaceful protests to beat the shit out of peaceful protestors, run them over or shoot them with an assault rifle) means that any point violence can be deemed acceptable by your group for a unilateral aim that ignores the rest of society. This Happens All Of The Damn Time. Cops do this with rightwing bigot constantly, shitty people of all types do this.
I mean the rest of us don’t mind, it’s like game of thrones it’s so hard to keep track of all the characters so when people just put it out there and literally sign their posts, I mean shrug fair.
Hate is a bad flavor of ice cream but like, yeah by all means if people want to tear their mask off, throw the dog whistle away, please it helps the rest of us realize who the hateful clowns are with dysfunctional capacities to apply empathy or even basic humanity to entire categories of people. Honestly it makes these conversations soooooo much easier and faster when the hateful authoritarian people just actually self label themselves as such.
To all the cisgender sad lonely people out there who would never hurt a soul, transgender or otherwise, I see you and I love you but shut the fuck up you aren’t being hunted down by threatening white men in pickup trucks who are drunk and are all friends with the sheriff so if they get violent with you for being a queer I mean the sheriff is gonna understand the boys getting rowdy right? So what they tied you up and raped you and drove away leaving your body as a crime scene.
That is the difference. Y’all are talking about feelings, queer people are talking about their fucking lives and we better damn well listen because we are next into the meat grinder.
I know right? People need to grow a back bone, I’m sure twitter used to be great, but if it’s not for you anymore then move on and don’t look back, there’s plenty of other ways to spend your time.
Wow that’s unbelievable. As in I literally don’t believe it. So I tested it by posting various sentences containing these words and other known slurs to compare, and found it didn’t work.
Maybe this is some American thing I’m not Free enough to experience in my corner of the world, or it doesn’t do this on android or the browser site. (The tech crunch screenshot looks like something else, probably iOS)
It hard to say because no one is even a little bit curious enough to test it. Idk how this thread contains anything else but people testing it, because it’s so damn unbelievable. Why is no one testing this themselves? Why are you not testing it yourself?
At this point, you should be able to ask, if you missed something important in the last few years. Is there any open conversation waiting for a reply somewhere?
Edit: if they use our data, they should at least give us some useful tools, in order for us to be able to see what personal information is out there …
At this point, you should be able to ask, if you missed something important in the last few years. Is there any open conversation waiting for a reply somewhere?
Not sure if you’ve ever used Copilot (I have it at work) and it offers the ability to summarize conversations and tell you what you’ve missed. I’ve used that a lot for high chatter conversations when I don’t feel like catching up or I’ve been out. Pretty nice.
First all companies were afraid of giving access to these models, for trade secret issues and security. But then they basically all met at the white house to agree that they would make way more fucking money stealing it than they would pay in restitution or damages to people and small businesses.
Suddenly everybody had a chatbot and generated art ready for commercial sale. They also had to make the shift quickly enough before official laws and protections (mostly from the EU) came in.
Now AI is plateauing a bit so they must hurry to get valuated at 10 trillion dollars and get their energy needs subsidized and have taxpayers invest into the nation’s energy requirements on their behalf.
I doubt that most corporations would even consider allowing Slack as a trusted app if they weren’t hosting their own instances themselves.
I have to assume that this training is exclusively on instances hosted on Slacks’ servers. So probably lots of smaller businesses that don’t know any better. And this was probably agreed to in the ToS as part of utilizing free and easy to set up cloud servers.
Ahh, looked at it and you’re right. They have an “Enterprise” version which seems like it’s security conscious.
Still, I stand by my original assertion. I have worked for FAANG companies with completely locked down security that allowed us to use Slack. I would be extremely surprised if their contract with Slack didn’t ensure complete data privacy.
We’re talking about companies where a product leak makes international news. There is zero chance Slack employees have access to communications.
There's a safe bet that if you've put something on the internet, it's been scraped by a bot by now for training. I don't like that, for the record, just saying I'm not surprised at this point. Companies are morally bankrupt
I don’t know why everyone is all shocked all of a sudden, there have been various scraper bots collecting text info for…many years now, LONG before LLMs came onto the scene.
I agree, but it’s one thing if I post to public places like Lemmy or Reddit and it gets scraped.
It’s another thing if my private DMs or private channels are being scraped and put into a database that will most likely get outsourced for prepping the data for training.
Not only that, but the trained model will have internal knowledge of things that are sure to give anxiety to any cyber security experts. If users know how to manipulate the AI model, they could cause the model to divulge some of that information.
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