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Red_October , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

They say it was because their landing in the wilds of Siberia may require defense against wildlife. This is not true. The truth is that they have seen what resides in space, and would not venture into it’s laid unarmed.

i_am_a_cardboard_box ,

So… They watched Aliens?

janAkali , (edited ) to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

allegedly was intended as a defensive weapon against in-space attacks by the US space program.

??? If it was for in-space attacks, wouldn’t it be more logical to mount a gun outside of ship 😆?

It was intended as a survival aid for emergency landings. It’s not a shotgun, but a three barrel pistol (but it can shoot both normal rounds and shells). Another interesting detail - it’s buttstock is a folding machete.

TP-87 was invented by request of A. Leonov after emergency landing of ‘Voshod-2’ where cosmonauts Leonov and Belyaev had to survive 3 days in wild taiga forest for a rescue team to retrieve them.

Agent641 ,

Love that story. Reminds me of Factorio, or Satisfactory or something.

Hadriscus ,

Satisfactorio ?

sygnius , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

Would this actually work effectively in space?

WhoRoger ,
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Why wouldn’t it?

Ed: the only thing that might not work is gunpowder in vacuum due to lack of oxygen, but gunpowder has oxidiser included, so yes it would.

janus2 ,
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I had to look up whether gunpowder requires oxygen to burn (it doesn’t)

Sabre363 ,

Gunpowder does actually require oxygen to burn, it just happens to bring its own oxygen with it.

janus2 ,
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That’s what I assumed, but why ass-ume when I live in the information age 😁

expatriado , (edited )

if it needed oxygen from the air it would have to breathe, the explosion happens inside the barrel before it mixes with the atmosphere

janus2 ,
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Ah! This is true and more precise

CookieOfFortune ,

Heat dissipation is an issue since there’s no air around to cool the barrel, although for this three shot weapon (two shotgun one rifle) it wouldn’t be a problem. This gun is mostly to fend off bears when you land in Siberia.

EmoDuck ,

You are half right. The gun definitely is for bears, but, and get this, space bears

Blademax ,

Normal or cocaine…space…bears?

AEsheron ,

Miniature giant space bears.

bitsplease ,

Recoil would be a removed though lol

NaibofTabr ,

Yes, I guess? But firing a gun inside a spacecraft would be a bad idea… and also firing it while spacewalking would be a bad idea unless you were very sure that you were very well braced & tethered.

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe ,
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You could load it with very small, light, or soft pellets, they don't need to be very damaging to make a hole in a suit which would be near certainly fatal.

radix ,
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Or the gun is just an emergency propulsion system in case you lose your tether…

NaibofTabr ,

Crazy enough plan to be Russian.

ElZoido ,

Well, considering that many early spacecraft and space stations were running oxygen rich atmospheres, it would probably mean the end of anyone involved in a rather spectacular fireball.

kbity ,
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I'd kind of hope everyone would know better than that after the disastrous Apollo I fire.

elxeno , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

They were called spacial operations.

ceilingcelery , to moviesandtv in **GRAN TURISMO Discussion Megapost** 2023-08-11 🕹🏎

Saw this yesterday, felt that it was an ok film overall but was let down by the first half where they tried to cover a lot of different events. After the GT academy is over I felt the movie improved a fair bit. I was surprised at how many of the events in the film were accurate to real life events! I thought the film was exaggerating Jann’s life but seemingly not which I appreciated.

mojofrododojo , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

Because space is haunted. And buckshot’s superior spread helps ensure a hit while spinning around in zero-g. Solid slugs would go straight through the soyuz walls, duh.

EmoDuck ,
droans ,

It’s the sequel we’ve always wanted to Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter.

As long as it’s about Buzz Aldrin and they’re Nazi ghosts.

Natanael ,
JoeBigelow ,
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Anticorp , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

It could also be a handy final solution if you got trapped in space with no chance of rescue or return.

WhoRoger , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions
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The attack in space angle was probably just to convince some manager.

The survival in Siberia is completely valid. US retrieves their astronauts in the ocean, but Soviet Russia didn’t/doesn’t have such a worldwide navy, so Siberia it is. It could take days for the cosmonauts to be recovered, so it was expected they might need to defend themselves against wildlife or even hunt.

BastingChemina ,

I think every astronaut that embarked in the Soyuz spacecraft had to go through a wilderness survival training.

I know the french astronaut Thomas Pesquet had to survive a week in Siberian first in winter before embarking on the Soyuz.

Rapidcreek , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

Long-time space journalist Jim Oberg called it “a deluxe all-in-one weapon with three barrels and a folding stock that doubles as a shovel and contains a swing-out machete.”

blackluster117 ,
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You’d think it was invented by the Swiss.

WtfEvenIsExistence , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

Proof of US Aggression: youtu.be/kFWIuJDLddc

Checkmate, Westerners!

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phoenix591 , to linux in NTFS turns 30 years old today! I hear it's still in use by some crufty old legacy operating systems 😁

There’s nothing wrong with solid old file systems; ext4 is almost 17 and no one complains about it,

proton_lynx ,

But that’s the problem, NTFS is not solid at all.

falsem ,

It's not?

TheyCallMeHacked ,

No it’s not. Ever tried grabbing it? You can’t. Must be liquid or something

Montagge ,
@Montagge@kbin.social avatar

What's wrong with ntfs?

user8e8f87c ,
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@Montagge @riskable @phoenix591 @proton_lynx It’s from Microsoft, it’s proprietary.

proton_lynx ,

I think a better question would be: “what’s not wrong with NTFS?”

Dubious_Fart ,

His list is so expansive he cant even list one item from it in response.

Dax87 ,
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The only reason why there’s NTFS hate in the Linux community is because it’s associated with windows.

This tribalism bullshit is tiring.

neo ,
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NTFS is genuinely inferior in many respects, especially on hard drives, Mister Blue Tribe.

Dax87 ,
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Yes, NTFS lacks features that surely one of the many Linux filesystems have. But it also has features others do not. There is no one-siize-fits-all filesystem.

  • Ext4 is generally faster than NTFS, but cannot handle as large of files
  • ZFS has a multitude of features that NTFS does not, like zraid, dedup, etc., but usually at the cost of RAM.
  • BTRFS is included in the Linux kernel and also has many features, like being able to conveniently switch hard drive raid-like configurations on the fly with rebalance, but doesn’t support fs-level encryption
  • NTFS lacks in many features the others do not, and is a “non-standard” filesystem. However, it’s one of the few with better cross-platform support, more advanced access control, pre-emptive journaling, reparse points, etc.

It’s quite obvious that my calling out tribalism has felt to you an attack.

We get enough of this “us vs them” mentality in literally every topic and medium. I’d just like a little more nuance and genuine discourse. So I apologize if I’ve offended you.

neo ,
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Ext4 is generally faster than NTFS, but cannot handle as large of files

Going to be honest with you, this has not been my experience.

And you can imagine whatever you want, but that doesn’t make it reality.

Dax87 ,
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? Imagine? 16 exabytes for NTFS according to multiple sources, like Wikipedia and Microsoft documents, and 16 terabytes for ext4.

If you want to refute that then it’s most likely you have just had some unlucky experience, and at best it’s anecdotal.

Considering your rather disingenuous second sentence, I can see that you are not here to engage in conversation, but to troll. You’re exactly what nobody needs buddy. Cya.

nakal ,
@nakal@kbin.social avatar

I'll try. Short: It's not as powerful as ZFS.

Examples:

  • no low cost snapshots (don't harm performance)
  • no checksums, no self-healing
  • 256 TB limit
  • magical reserved $ and OneDrive filenames
  • magical 8.3 mapping
  • broken standard API calls (CreateFileW instead of fopen)
falsem ,

Another reason ZFS is better is it gives you something to do with all your spare RAM.

Secret300 ,

Very slow, still needs defragmented, proprietary, (I know a lot of people don’t care about that but also a lot feel that proprietary software is malware) and is so unbelievably slow on hard drives. I know I said slow twice but god damn on a hard drive it’s rough. I know just get an SSD but I have a 2TB hard drive I keep my games on. It used to be on NTFS so I could dual-boot and not download a game twice but once I left windows I put ext4 on it and it helps a bit.

Montagge ,
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I have a 2TB HDD that was ntfs and now ext4 as well. I can't say I've noticed a difference, but I didn't do any benchmarking either.

I wouldn't consider ntfs as malware like I would something like anticheat software. As far as I know ntfs doesn't intentionally or negligently harm, open a system to harm, or perform tasks that have nothing to do with the designed function.

Drefragging sucks I guess, but it had to be run so infrequently. I can certainly understand why someone would want to move onto something that removed the need for it.

joel_feila ,
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When I swapped from l windows to linux my at the 12+ year old pc went from needing like 15 minutes from boot to load the web browser. Linux mint cut that down to 1 minute. yes i cleaned my disk and defrag it regularly. Just less bloat and better fs

Confetti_Camouflage ,
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Nothing inherently wrong with NTFS itself as a filesystem besides being proprietary, and Microsoft supplies absolutely no support for using it in Linux. All the work done to get it running in Linux has been from the ground up and it shows. Many times I’ve had a hiccup on my external drives and they completely lock up until they’re repaired on a windows machine. Unfortunately NTFS is one of the only journaled file system that works on both Windows, Apple, and Linux.

There has also been a lot of advances for filesystems like checksumming so you know when you get bitrot. Or copy-on-write which can take snapshots of a file and then further changes are stored as the difference. You can then rollback to any snapshot you’ve taken.

Nobug404 ,

Shadow copy.

7fb2adfb45bafcc01c80 , to technology in Microsoft released the first version of QuickBASIC on August 18, 1985 on a single 5.25-inch 360 KB floppy disk

I loved QuickBASIC. I’d write Assembly Language routines in Turbo Assembler and call them from QuickBASIC.

I wrote a DeskMate clone for fun and it was actually pretty decent; TASM gave it decent performance.

MeanEYE ,
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I tried writing an “operating system” in QBasic. Yes, I was that ignorant and optimistic at the same time. I still have the code. Standard VESA driver, high resolutions. Wrote my own terrible scripting language. But it was fun doing that. These days I rarely find any programming fun. It’s all tedious and dealing with middleware issues.

Transcendant , to technology in Microsoft released the first version of QuickBASIC on August 18, 1985 on a single 5.25-inch 360 KB floppy disk

Good times, playing nibbles / gorillas with my siblings. I never got into programming as an adult, but I got quite into making stuff with QBasic as a kid. We used to make very annoying programs to take to school and unleash upon the poor beleagured IT department.

Bell , to technology in Microsoft released the first version of QuickBASIC on August 18, 1985 on a single 5.25-inch 360 KB floppy disk

Spent some time with QB but QuickPascal was the first decent compiler I really used. It was just MS trying to compete with Turbo but it was enough for me.

pastermil , to technology in Microsoft released the first version of QuickBASIC on August 18, 1985 on a single 5.25-inch 360 KB floppy disk

I wasn’t here for this, but my first exposure was when my uncle showed me BASICA on Windows 98. Then I started playing around with VB 6. The rest was history.

Now I am a full-time backend engineer mostly doing Python & Linux programming. Not sure where I’d end up otherwise.

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