Okay, let’s look at several arguments that have been presented here in favor of this law:
“Display of religion must be banned for a secular learning experience”: Firstly, how do you even define “display of religion”? If I say “Merry Christmas”, is it a display of religion? If I grow my hair out, is that display of religion? If I wear a steel bracelet, is that display of religion? Because the last two actions are actually associated with Sikhism. If I wear the Mormons’ holy underwear, is that display of religion? If I say “Jesus fkin Christ” when I hear about a fascist law like this, is that banned too now? Secularism is respecting all religious classifications and allowing them to coexist. Secularism is NOT forcing everyone to look and behave as if they are in the same religious classification.
“The abaya dress isn’t even French/Respect the culture of the country that you are in:”
Individuals who say this seem to have what is known as the “conventionalist” ethical framework. This framework has maaany problems. However, even if we look at this law from the point of view of this framework, it becomes unethical. The official national motto of France is “Liberty, Equality and Fraternity”. This law seems to contradict all three of these principles.
It contradicts “liberty”, as it literally permits the government to tell its citizens what they can and cannot wear on their body. Abayas are not even inherently religious. It is like the government banning polo t-shirts because they are “Christian”.
The law contradicts “equality” as it unequally affects Muslims and Sikhs, as their religious expression involves the use of clothing more than other religions. Sure, harmful clothing must not be permitted (like the knives that Sikhs are supposed to carry according to their religion). Abayas are not harmful in any way. Hence, they do not fall into this category.
Finally, this law contradicts “fraternity”, as fraternity literally means “brotherhood” in this context. “No matter how different we are, we are still brothers with a goal to work for the people of France” is what this implies. Banning something as harmless as clothing attributed to a given religion is not a sign of brotherhood.
“Just have school uniforms”: Clothing is one of the most important mediums of expression for humans. All humans have their own individual identities. The goal of schools should not be to make Stormtroopers. Rather, it should be to make students better versions of themselves. Having school uniforms goes strongly against this idea. One may argue that this also goes against the idea of “liberty”.
“Did you know that Abayas and Hijabs are the result of an authoritarian religion?” Firstly, no. Abayas have nothing to do with religion. Sure, it is possible that a parent(s) may force their child to wear a particular type of clothing that aligns with their religious beliefs. In that case, the school can provide support to such students. However, what if a child themself wish to wear a particular type of clothing? What’s the harm in that? This argument for the ban is similar to saying “some individuals are buttfucked without their consent. Therefore, let’s ban buttfucking”.
I’m atheist and socialist. I’m sad to see some of my fellow socialists arguing for the ban as well. Atheists have and are presently being persecuted in many countries in the world. By supporting the persecution of other religious classifications, we are essentially doing exactly what is being done to us. There is no moral difference between us and the individuals persecuting us in this case.
Ehh… Doesn’t prove this by any means. For example, a type of clothing called a “kurta” is worn by Hindus and Muslims both. In religious ceremonies in both religions, attendees usually wear it. Now, this doesn’t mean that the garment suddenly is a religious garment, does it? It just is a cultural garment that is usually worn in the Indian subcontinent.
Now, even if the abaya is a religious garment, the points that I mentioned above still apply. What if I started a new religion called “Religion of yellow clothes”? Let’s say my religious clothes are all yellow clothes. Does France ban everyone from wearing yellow clothes now because of me?
Sir, you just said kurta is being weared during religious ceremonies… It’s hard argue that it is not a religious dress…
Well if that yellow thing becomes widely acknowledged as a “religious display” then yes, it will be banned in public schools… It does sound dumb but only because you made an extravagant decision to make “yellow” a religious sign. If you claimed “let’s have a crossed bar” as religious sign, suddenly it becomes easier to imagine
I don’t understand how it is more ethical to create an embryo from a stem cell than to create one from a sperm and egg. Both are viable, neither is a person. How are they different?
(Keeping the stem cell version in vitro past the the age when it would need to implant isn’t really a solution/distinction because we can do the same thing with a sperm-and-egg version.)
yes the whole nation is in jeopardy because some warmongers arent getting their promotions... if this is really the case, then the military is being mismanaged way worse than anyone knows.
we could cut those positions outright, and 10,000 others, and still be the biggest assholes on the planet.
I mean, that’s true, but the actual issue is that in the system as it currently exists, the entire reason Tuberville is doing this is to create empty vacancies, in hopes of stonewalling until the Presidential election. The entire plan is literally another attempt at a coup, just looking for ways to have a Republican administration put in a bunch of Yes Men in key positions, if they’re lucky enough to keep the House and win the Presidency. Having cronies in control of the military is no joke.
While we would still indeed be the biggest assholes out there, with a military that would still outmatch much of the world, the difference if that if this is continued to be allowed, there is real risk of the “biggest asshole” military on the planet being controlled by an actual dictatorship, not the dog and pony show we call a “democracy.” A fascist dictatorship that wants to wipe women and minority rights off the map and take us back 100 years or more.
I’m no fan of the milquetoast wimpy Democrats who watch the Republicans break rules all the time and are unwilling to play hardball themselves, but whinging while ignoring the literal rising threat of fascism that’s out there making plans to take power isn’t gonna help.
So, to quote a great man, “You’re not wrong, Walter, you’re just an asshole.”
Did I argue that they aren’t complicit or did I point out that what’s happening is literally part of a plan for an intended coup by the way more fascist of the two shitty parties?
We can suck major balls and you can still live in fucking reality where if the Republicans succeed at this, they will be using the military to root out and murder people like you and me, just because they can.
Democrats just want to be rich fuckwits above it all, but Republicans legit want to fucking hurt people, and ignoring that means you’d rather play pretend that we could just dismantle the military overnight. We can’t dismantle the military industrial complex we don’t have the political power. So in the meantime, let’s live in fucking reality and understand our own limitations shall we, hmm? Because acting like something we literally don’t have the power to do is something we should focus on while the fascists are at the gate is fucking nanners, to put it lightly.
We can be upset about more than one thing at once. Our military spending is out of control, and one person in congress should not be able to grind government functions to a hault.
OP is right, this is just a veiled attempt to maintain vacancies in the hopes of getting a republican president.
They learned from their mistakes last time, and they’re going to try again later.
Honestly, I think you give Tuberville way too much credit in terms of political machinations. I think he’s just very, very stupid. Every sign I’ve seen points to that.
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Tommy Tuberville is a mstermind who conceived of, and is executing, a grand scheme. Just that someone told him to do something and he’s doing it.
Literally their playbook for decades. The government sucks in their hands because they make it suck, not because it’s inherently ineffective. But suckers are gonna suck.
Remember when they held up the judicial nominations under Obama, only to force through a massive number of federal judges (and three Supreme Court picks) once they had control again? You can see how they're doing the exact same thing with the military right now.
Now imagine if, on January 6th, the military was being run by MAGAts.
yes the whole nation is in jeopardy because some warmongers arent getting their promotions
The whole nation is in jeopardy because these leadership positions are being held open until Trump is reelected in a rework of the Merrick Garland SC nomination. Which should be terrifying. Jan 6 failed in part because some of the military top brass (Miley) put oath before Trump.
Read up on Project 2025 if you haven’t. These “unconnected events” are anything but. It’s a strategy.
yes the whole nation is in jeopardy because some warmongers arent getting their promotions... if this is really the case, then the military is being mismanaged way worse than anyone knows.
When you refuse to fill management positions, yes, it will become even more mismanaged. Moreover, this is still messing with people's pay and families as well. You can't really cut management positions in the military and expect it to function. Our readiness will absolutely be hindered.
You can hate the army, but they're also one of the biggest suppliers of aid to other countries. Their logistics and planning help save more lives than you ever will, plus they save more lives than they actually ever take in combat.
You're no better than a Republican who just wants to shut down and obstruct without offering any actual assistance or plans to move forward. You're a child not getting their way. Are you related to the Senator as you throw a similar hissy fit?
The theory that as disparate political ideologies move further from the center that they get more alike past a certain point. The spectrum isn’t a line, it’s a horseshoe.
I’ll make the argument that tankies aren’t really leftists tho. They’re some weird amalgam of authoritarian communists. They have more in common with fascists, but they just took a different trip to get there. It’s shitty political convergence
However, a teacher and his class studying the rock have now discovered that since the collision, it has moved in a strange and unexpected way.
By crashing into the smaller asteroid, the Dart mission successfully altered Dimorphos’ orbit by “tens of metres”.
Dart, which stands for Double Asteroid Redirection Test, used a spacecraft around the size of a fridge.
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One of their neighbours has to be erratically throwing their family and stuff into the car, awkwardly saying hey to the main character as they jump in their car and speed off.
To be fair, it’s like playing billiards with a rope for a cue, in 3 dimensions, in zero gravity, with rocks for balls, and a coke can for the white, and the balls are moving.
I’m surprised they even hit it, give them a few years before you start expecting them to do trickshots.
The summary bot didn’t even list the odd behavior. It has continued to decelerate a month after impact. Find that a bit unusual and counterintuitive to newton’s laws. But I’m not a physicist.
It appears to be slowing down. That means it’s either generating thrust (outgassing etc), still being impacted by debris, or their measurements have been thrown off by something. All would be interesting, in their own way.
We should be so lucky to have someone on the left in Congress with a political project they believed in so much that they would do something like this.
The issue is that by Senate policy, one person can throw a massive wrench in the process and grind things to a halt. Progressives typically want to do things, which cannot be done by one person throwing a hissy fit.
He will NOT be appointing officials for an organization that kills people until the government stops allowing abortions. Just let the logic sink in for a while. The guy’s a POS, and nobody should be surprised that a single issue candidate is only interested in a single issue.
Not to mention that because of the standing rules of the Senate, all you have to do is send an email saying you’re filibustering and any one person can bring to halt something all the other 99 Senators just want to move on to the next topic.
Literally this guy stands alone on this and the brain dead rules allow him and him alone to bring it all to a halt.
And the rules won't change because most of the Senate loves that someone else can halt things, take the heat, and then they won't have to deal with unpopular decisions.
Not in this case, but they're literally willing to force the military fuck over career professionals so that they can keep their cushy plausible deniability.
So many self-serving rules. And honestly, if we held any of them accountable to their campaign promises we might actually have a functioning congress. But here we are.
It funny/sad that allowing the Senate to function in the absence of a supermajority is seen as a desperate measure. Too me it seems like the only reasonable thing to do.
This is the real problem, and it’s infuriating. Not only because of the way it stops the Senate from doing so many things, but because so many people now believe it’s how the filibuster had always worked. And so people hate it.
But, in fact, the filibuster, in its original form, is a powerful tool the minority can use to make its voice heard and perhaps even effect change. It needs to come back - make Tuberville stand up and talk for hours on end for each of these appointees he opposes. Make McTurtle totter to center stage and wheeze for as long as he can the next time he wants to block a Democrat President’s Supreme Court Judge.
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