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NotAnotherLemmyUser , to news in Oh Is it happening again ?

Link to source instead of amp: www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/americas/…/index.html

masquenox , to news in Myanmar military loses control of key town on Thai border, rebels say, in major win for anti-junta resistance

Not the kind of Karens we usually hear about…

venusaur OP ,
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Haha yeah thankfully most of the other Karens don’t have guns

FireTower , to news in Myanmar military loses control of key town on Thai border, rebels say, in major win for anti-junta resistance
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In defense on the US, the FGC9 MKII revisions were 50% done by an American. And the design it was based off was 100% made by an American.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3edefb80-1e51-4a6e-a30e-cf5ae17c1078.jpeg

venusaur OP ,
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they’re using 3D printed guns? you talking about Ivan the Troll? isn’t that like saying any money i send to Rwanda is US support?

FireTower ,
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Yup & Derwood (AP9) and Ivan. Yeah, but I don’t see your personal contribution as any less meaningful than federal money. Every bit helps.

venusaur OP ,
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for sure, but where your money goes is not a direct reflection of your government’s policies

some_guy , to news in Myanmar military loses control of key town on Thai border, rebels say, in major win for anti-junta resistance

Jake Hanrahan interviewed a journalist who embedded with the rebels on the Popular Front podcast a few months ago. Would recommend.

venusaur OP ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks! I’ll check it out. What are your opinions after listening?

some_guy ,

That I still know next to nothing but that I wish them all the luck in the world. It was interesting hearing how the professionals and the students and such gradually learned how to work together. That’s the most I can remember at the moment.

venusaur OP ,
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nothing like a mutual enemy to bring people together.

some_guy ,

Fuck Florida. Fuck Tennessee. Fuck every red state harming people. Fuck the GOP. Fuck Israel. Fuck 'em. I’m not blind to this being a rightwing problem.

NOT_RICK , to news in Myanmar military loses control of key town on Thai border, rebels say, in major win for anti-junta resistance
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Things are looking pretty tenuous for the Junta lately. I wish them nothing but the worst.

venusaur OP , (edited )
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Agreed. Surprised Israel needs billions to fight against a country hundreds of times poorer than them with over 100K less military troops.

NOT_RICK ,
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It helps that the Myanmar military seems to have zero interest in fighting for their leadership.

venusaur OP ,
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yeah. who would. for Israel, it helps that their military has over 100K more troops than Hamas.

gAlienLifeform , to world in Myanmar military loses control of key town on Thai border, rebels say, in major win for anti-junta resistance
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I don’t know nearly enough about the different sides here, but a quick skim of the Wikipedia page for the Karen National Union and the National Unity Consultative Council that they’re members of makes it sound like they’re pro-democratic and anti-racist, so, yeah - keep kicking military dictatorship ass!

venusaur OP ,
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I think it’s important to know that they’re succeeding even without military aid from the US, and despite the junta (military coup) getting help from China and Russia.

Doesn’t make sense that the US would have to send Israel billions to fight a country that is hundreds of times poorer than Israel.

wildbus8979 ,

Isn’t the Junta a direct consequence of western meddling in Myanmar’s affairs? Why would the US fund the counter part to their own creation?

venusaur OP ,
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they’re a military coup that overthrew the democratically elected government. this coup was largely in response to US sanctions on military officials resulting from Rohingya genocide and a loss of power in the 2020 elections. so, you could say that it was a result of US meddling in the same way the israeli/palestine confict is or even 9/11 was.

wildbus8979 ,

The Palestinian issue is 100% a western creation, so I’m not sure that’s the example you’re wanting to pick…

Thing is the Rohingya genocide is a direct consequence of Aung San Suu Kyi’s release, which you may remember was the political prisoner darling for human rights of the western world.

venusaur OP ,
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it’s definitely a western creation, but not wholly a US creation. British and French started it all, and the US’ involvement with peace treaties created a backlash resulting in assassination of Rabin and the rise of Netanyahu.

how was her release related?

wildbus8979 ,

When she ascended to the office of state counsellor, Aung San Suu Kyi drew criticism from several countries, organisations and figures over Myanmar’s inaction in response to the genocide of the Rohingya people in Rakhine State and refusal to acknowledge that the Myanmar’s military has committed massacres

venusaur OP ,
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That’s far from the genocide being a direct consequence of her release. Actually, that doesn’t say that at all

DarkThoughts ,

One of the issues with the resistance is that they're an alliance of a lot of smaller groups. So if they win, there's the potential risk that they eventually all go against each other instead of transitioning to a proper government. The current junta however has been involved in a number of scandals & genocide over the past years that you might've heard about. I guess things eventually got bad enough.

Silverseren OP , to world in US State Department to bypass congressional review period to | CNN Politics

Unlike security assistance to Ukraine, where the US details types of weapons and capabilities, the shipments to Israel have been far more discreet, with the Defense Department rarely acknowledging or announcing what types of weapons or equipment it is sending.

It's this fact of trying to coverup what exactly is being given that shows how they know what they're doing is wrong.

postmateDumbass , to world in Hamas has command center under Al-Shifa hospital, US official says | CNN Politics

Incoming Hospital Buster Bomb?

febra , to world in Hamas has command center under Al-Shifa hospital, US official says | CNN Politics

Wait till we find out it was just a hospital basement all along

Seasm0ke , to world in Hamas has command center under Al-Shifa hospital, US official says | CNN Politics

Let’s just say for arguments sake that it’s true. Would that justify idk an air strike on an active hospital? Is that how hostage negotiations are handled? Bomb the bank and be like well the robbers were holed up in the safe underground so really it’s their fault we blew all the tellers into a fine bloody mist.

rdri ,

Let’s just say that this further proves how hamas using civillian infrastructure as a living shield is an intended thing, if not strategy.

Saxoboneless ,
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That in no way exonerates or justifies those who are killing patients in an active hospital.

rdri ,

In a way it does. It would be vastly different if Israel would bomb everything while hamas would care about their fellow citizens.

CommanderM2192 ,

For sake of argument, if this were true, I think the biggest thing is that it would show the international community has been ignoring intelligence and evidence of this and doing nothing. That means the blame is shifted onto the UN and the West imo

Who are we to tell Israel to not bomb resources used to hurt or harm their civilians when we’ve done jack fucking shit about it? The Israeli government, no matter who’s in charge, has a moral responsibility to protect its own civilians. There are still hostages to be rescued and Hamas is still launching attacks at Israel when it is able to do so. Israel just does not have the manpower or resources that we do. They can’t go door-to-door and try to minimize civilian casualties while also being prepared for an invasion from their other borders.

So if this is true and we want it to stop, then it’s the responsibility of the international community to step in and provide the resources needed to minimize or outright prevent civilian casualties. Israel just does not have that capability.

fosforus ,

Let’s just say for arguments sake that it’s true. Would that justify idk an air strike on an active hospital?

Yes.

qnick , to world in Hamas has command center under Al-Shifa hospital, US official says | CNN Politics
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This is the footage from under the hospital with comments of IDF spokesperson

youtu.be/2EuSxHv-7VQ

Madison420 ,

That’s your fuckin proof? Goddamn education fucking failed us.

A deep tunnel near a hospital… You ever worked at a hospital pal?

qnick ,
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It definitely failed you. And I’m not your pal.

Madison420 ,

If you think short non traceble video of generic hallways and photos with red circles is proof well, then I’ve a bridge to sell you pal.

snek ,
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The IDF’a idea of proof is a joke tbh. They are not trying anymore.

agitatedpotato ,

When you have a record like Israel for murdering journalists, whos gonna expose your lies?

MeanEYE ,
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That’s more evidence than what was needed when Hamas said Israel bombed hospital, when in fact it was failed rocket from Gaza that struck it. They even said 500 people killed and everyone parroted that number around. Lemmy is filled with strange ways of thinking.

Madison420 ,

No one has proved that and Israel has an actual track record of lying about “failed rocket strikes” that were actually isreali strikes.

No one should take anything during the conflict as objective fact, it would be kind of stupid to.

blahsay ,

Hamas has repeatedly shown they will use hospitals, schools etc to launch missiles. There’s a video of a Hamas guy firing a rocket launcher from a hospital. I’m not sure why so many people see this a unlikely. Pro Palestinian state propaganda teams seems likely.

dulcemaria , to world in Hamas has command center under Al-Shifa hospital, US official says | CNN Politics
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WMD

burchalka , to world in Hamas has command center under Al-Shifa hospital, US official says | CNN Politics

There were already videos with rocket launchers placed in kindergarten as well as stored ammunition and hand grenades… Let’s see if in several days, a video proof that this specific hospital was used for military purpose too, will pop up.

blahsay ,

Must be a state run pro Palestinian propaganda team. Nobody can be this dense at denying it

Misanthrope , to world in Hamas has command center under Al-Shifa hospital, US official says | CNN Politics
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"CIA declined to comment. CNN has not seen the intelligence cited by the US official. "

PICS or GTFO

Fitik OP ,

Is that better?

Misanthrope ,
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I’m not understanding your comment. That’s probably my fault. My comment was intended as a flippant/sarcastic way of saying, “I need more info before I fully believe that Hamas has a ‘base’ under that particular hospital”.

I’m not saying it’s a straight up lie. Just, that’s a a statement with no solid evidence, so “get outta here with that”.

Sincerely, what was “Is that better?” In response to? I communicated badly so I’m lost.

Fitik OP ,

Maybe it's troubles of the Fediverse? I linked a picture in my reply, you can't see it?

https://fedia.io/m/[email protected]/t/399191/Hamas-has-command-center-under-Al-Shifa-hospital-US-official-says#entry-comment-2433907

glimse ,

I’m not the guy you’re replying to but I do not see an image in your first comment. Lemmy Connect for Android

qdJzXuisAndVQb2 ,

Me neither

GuidoMancipioni ,

Same on Boost

Zorque ,

I see a picture, I'm on kbin. It looks like an overhead shot of the hospital with red boxes indicating "This is a Hamas control station".

Madison420 ,

www.walmart.com/ip/…/576209936

I mean, hilariously weak proof kinda deserves it.

AstridWipenaugh ,

No image on Sync.

greenmarty ,

No image on mobile browser version either

SilentStorms ,

That’s just a picture with a bunch of buildings highlighted. I don’t see how that’s proof of anything.

Like that “tunnel entrance” the IDF showed off the other day that was just a water resevoir.

Kusimulkku ,

Dunno what could be shown to definitively prove it is a Hamas base

Zorque ,

Documentation? Pictures from inside the base? A third party source that has no bias in the situation (heh, good luck) providing conclusive testimony? Literally anything other than an overhead shot that's labeled with "We swear there's hamas here, guys, c'mon let us bomb more civilians!"

Kusimulkku ,

And how do you do any of that without attacking and taking over the place? I got the impression that they hadn’t taken it over yet so photos from far away were the best it is going to get.

Zorque ,

"We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas!"

One of the most advanced militaries in the world and they can't figure out anything better?

Kusimulkku ,

My point was that it’s really hard to convincingly prove something like that. Guns? Well could be planted. Armed people going in and out? Well those could be anyone! Some even took seriously my suggestion that perhaps they should film them walking around with Hamas flags flashing their Hamas ID cards, but that would be so ridiculous that it would be suspicious because of that.

Definitively proving something like that, yeah good luck.

CmdrShepard ,

Maybe a bunch of Hamas fighters congregating there?

Kusimulkku ,

How do you show that from photos, are they carrying Hamas flags with Hamas IDs visible?

CmdrShepard ,

Potentially. It’s certainly a lot better than an unpopulated, dingy basement and the promise that “it’s a bad guy’s lair!” from the very same people who blew up the hospital right above it.

Kusimulkku ,

Potentially

Lmao

BartsBigBugBag ,

All Israeli soldiers have six pointed stars on their uniforms. Just show combatants that don’t have one.

burchalka ,

Videos released by Hamas show ppl in civilian clothing launch Mortars to Israeli territories, so can’t really rely on uniforms.

Misanthrope ,
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Must be a Fediverse thing. No pic on my end.

Illecors , to news in ‘No Way To Prevent This’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

Sensationalising headlines is not cool and against the rules of this sub.

vivadanang ,

headline is accurate as fuck, dunno what you’re talking about. it’s 100% accurate.

Fondots ,

Accurate or not

▶ 4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.

I believe the mods of this community usually choose not to actively enforce that rule, but if I’m in a news community, I want news, not memes and jokes. If we want to discuss it and even joke about it, that’s what the comment section is for.

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