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postmateDumbass ,

Incoming Hospital Buster Bomb?

febra ,

Wait till we find out it was just a hospital basement all along

Seasm0ke ,

Let’s just say for arguments sake that it’s true. Would that justify idk an air strike on an active hospital? Is that how hostage negotiations are handled? Bomb the bank and be like well the robbers were holed up in the safe underground so really it’s their fault we blew all the tellers into a fine bloody mist.

rdri ,

Let’s just say that this further proves how hamas using civillian infrastructure as a living shield is an intended thing, if not strategy.

Saxoboneless ,
@Saxoboneless@lemmy.world avatar

That in no way exonerates or justifies those who are killing patients in an active hospital.

rdri ,

In a way it does. It would be vastly different if Israel would bomb everything while hamas would care about their fellow citizens.

CommanderM2192 ,

For sake of argument, if this were true, I think the biggest thing is that it would show the international community has been ignoring intelligence and evidence of this and doing nothing. That means the blame is shifted onto the UN and the West imo

Who are we to tell Israel to not bomb resources used to hurt or harm their civilians when we’ve done jack fucking shit about it? The Israeli government, no matter who’s in charge, has a moral responsibility to protect its own civilians. There are still hostages to be rescued and Hamas is still launching attacks at Israel when it is able to do so. Israel just does not have the manpower or resources that we do. They can’t go door-to-door and try to minimize civilian casualties while also being prepared for an invasion from their other borders.

So if this is true and we want it to stop, then it’s the responsibility of the international community to step in and provide the resources needed to minimize or outright prevent civilian casualties. Israel just does not have that capability.

fosforus ,

Let’s just say for arguments sake that it’s true. Would that justify idk an air strike on an active hospital?

Yes.

qnick ,
@qnick@lemmy.world avatar

This is the footage from under the hospital with comments of IDF spokesperson

youtu.be/2EuSxHv-7VQ

Madison420 ,

That’s your fuckin proof? Goddamn education fucking failed us.

A deep tunnel near a hospital… You ever worked at a hospital pal?

qnick ,
@qnick@lemmy.world avatar

It definitely failed you. And I’m not your pal.

Madison420 ,

If you think short non traceble video of generic hallways and photos with red circles is proof well, then I’ve a bridge to sell you pal.

snek ,
@snek@lemmy.world avatar

The IDF’a idea of proof is a joke tbh. They are not trying anymore.

agitatedpotato ,

When you have a record like Israel for murdering journalists, whos gonna expose your lies?

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

That’s more evidence than what was needed when Hamas said Israel bombed hospital, when in fact it was failed rocket from Gaza that struck it. They even said 500 people killed and everyone parroted that number around. Lemmy is filled with strange ways of thinking.

Madison420 ,

No one has proved that and Israel has an actual track record of lying about “failed rocket strikes” that were actually isreali strikes.

No one should take anything during the conflict as objective fact, it would be kind of stupid to.

blahsay ,

Hamas has repeatedly shown they will use hospitals, schools etc to launch missiles. There’s a video of a Hamas guy firing a rocket launcher from a hospital. I’m not sure why so many people see this a unlikely. Pro Palestinian state propaganda teams seems likely.

dulcemaria ,
@dulcemaria@lemdro.id avatar

WMD

burchalka ,

There were already videos with rocket launchers placed in kindergarten as well as stored ammunition and hand grenades… Let’s see if in several days, a video proof that this specific hospital was used for military purpose too, will pop up.

blahsay ,

Must be a state run pro Palestinian propaganda team. Nobody can be this dense at denying it

Misanthrope ,
@Misanthrope@lemmy.ml avatar

"CIA declined to comment. CNN has not seen the intelligence cited by the US official. "

PICS or GTFO

Fitik OP ,

Is that better?

Misanthrope ,
@Misanthrope@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m not understanding your comment. That’s probably my fault. My comment was intended as a flippant/sarcastic way of saying, “I need more info before I fully believe that Hamas has a ‘base’ under that particular hospital”.

I’m not saying it’s a straight up lie. Just, that’s a a statement with no solid evidence, so “get outta here with that”.

Sincerely, what was “Is that better?” In response to? I communicated badly so I’m lost.

Fitik OP ,

Maybe it's troubles of the Fediverse? I linked a picture in my reply, you can't see it?

https://fedia.io/m/[email protected]/t/399191/Hamas-has-command-center-under-Al-Shifa-hospital-US-official-says#entry-comment-2433907

glimse ,

I’m not the guy you’re replying to but I do not see an image in your first comment. Lemmy Connect for Android

qdJzXuisAndVQb2 ,

Me neither

GuidoMancipioni ,

Same on Boost

Zorque ,

I see a picture, I'm on kbin. It looks like an overhead shot of the hospital with red boxes indicating "This is a Hamas control station".

Madison420 ,

www.walmart.com/ip/…/576209936

I mean, hilariously weak proof kinda deserves it.

AstridWipenaugh ,

No image on Sync.

greenmarty ,

No image on mobile browser version either

SilentStorms ,

That’s just a picture with a bunch of buildings highlighted. I don’t see how that’s proof of anything.

Like that “tunnel entrance” the IDF showed off the other day that was just a water resevoir.

Kusimulkku ,

Dunno what could be shown to definitively prove it is a Hamas base

Zorque ,

Documentation? Pictures from inside the base? A third party source that has no bias in the situation (heh, good luck) providing conclusive testimony? Literally anything other than an overhead shot that's labeled with "We swear there's hamas here, guys, c'mon let us bomb more civilians!"

Kusimulkku ,

And how do you do any of that without attacking and taking over the place? I got the impression that they hadn’t taken it over yet so photos from far away were the best it is going to get.

Zorque ,

"We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas!"

One of the most advanced militaries in the world and they can't figure out anything better?

Kusimulkku ,

My point was that it’s really hard to convincingly prove something like that. Guns? Well could be planted. Armed people going in and out? Well those could be anyone! Some even took seriously my suggestion that perhaps they should film them walking around with Hamas flags flashing their Hamas ID cards, but that would be so ridiculous that it would be suspicious because of that.

Definitively proving something like that, yeah good luck.

CmdrShepard ,

Maybe a bunch of Hamas fighters congregating there?

Kusimulkku ,

How do you show that from photos, are they carrying Hamas flags with Hamas IDs visible?

CmdrShepard ,

Potentially. It’s certainly a lot better than an unpopulated, dingy basement and the promise that “it’s a bad guy’s lair!” from the very same people who blew up the hospital right above it.

Kusimulkku ,

Potentially

Lmao

BartsBigBugBag ,

All Israeli soldiers have six pointed stars on their uniforms. Just show combatants that don’t have one.

burchalka ,

Videos released by Hamas show ppl in civilian clothing launch Mortars to Israeli territories, so can’t really rely on uniforms.

Misanthrope ,
@Misanthrope@lemmy.ml avatar

Must be a Fediverse thing. No pic on my end.

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