I saw a video of a camel murdering a guy like a rag doll after the dude punched the camel. This is just another item tucked away in the " don’t fuck with camels" folder.
I know, but vegan extremists have often pointed out that because our teeth are shaped more like a horse’s than a lions, that we must be herbivores. Which is fucking stupid for several reasons.
One of them being that horses are opportunistic meat eaters and will eat meat when given the chance, they just merely aren’t aggressive or combat suited enough to hunt for it themselves.
Basically the people who say that if you use any Animal product for any reason, then you basically are no better than the people who did the Holocaust. No this isn’t an exaggeration.
The kind of people who compare the Civil Rights Movement to the conditions to which pigs live in, and wonder why people think they are racist.
That first one most certainly does sound like an exaggeration, or at least an outlier. And in the context of this discussion it implies a false equivalence that anyone who thinks that our teeth look more like an herbivore’s than an omnivore or carnivore’s and takes from that that we should eat more vegetables, also thinks that you’re as bad as hitler or a nazis for eating meat.
But maybe one of us is misunderstanding. I certainly do think that the millions of animals being killed without a justified reason is a type of Holocaust. Sure, it’s not humans, but I think it’s a fair conclusion to come to. Regardless of if you’d call it that, can you see how all of this unnecessary death and torture is incredibly unethical? It doesn’t seem extreme to me if that’s what these vegans are saying.
Secondly, do you not think there is a similarity between fighting for the civil rights of humans and fighting for the rights of animals? I don’t think that’s a racist statement at all, and you know what? I think anyone who says it is racist is either actively trying to undermine the argument with adhominem or is simply too dumb to realize that’s what the person they heard say it originally was trying to do.
PS: bonus video to show that canines are not the strangest thing about a camel’s mouth: yewtu.be/watch?v=9NC2saE5MbQ…it actually seems to love munching on spiny things, look at him go 😍 😱
I saw a clip of some guy punching a camel in the head, trying to get it to move (or something).
The camel finally snapped at him, got hold of an arm or shoulder, and just ragdolled him, eventually settling in to rip chunks off while pinning his torso.
This is the kind of stuff I wonder about ancient finds and when we determine whether they were herbivore or carnivore based on the teeth. Would we be able to accurately tell based on the bones of a camel like this if ancient and extinct? Is there more that we typically go on besides just the teeth’s design?
I think there is also the molars and general jaw shape to consider. Carnivores are not just identified by their fangs, they have generally a different structure and layout of their jaws that is made to lock into a prey animal or tear out pieces of flesh.
In contrast, many herbivores have teeth laid out to grind down plant matter (think cows or goats) and their mouths are laid out to chew off vegetation with very articulated lips to assist. Even if these camels have pointy fangs, the rest of their mouth would indicate they eat primarily plants.
They do have dentals that are extremely specialized for eating vegetation that really doesn't want to be eaten. The large canini are only a trait of males from which we could very reasonably determine that they're used for intraspecific fights if we have both male and female fossils available.
Actually I would consider the anatomy of a camels skull one of the easiest to determine the habits of the species off due to its very specific adaptions.
We can determine that they live in an area with rough vegetation which are to that degree only arid climate zones. That requires high mobility to scan the area for scarce vegetation and even scarcer water sources. You'd probably also assume they move in larger groups if fighting is so relevant for males that huge fangs turned into a selected trait. From that alone you can make many assumptions that probably align with the actual lifestyle of those animals.
That’s actually a good question. I’m no dental expert mind you, but looking at the highly different diets some species have even compared to close relatives, I wouldn’t be surprised if that happened to extinct species as well. I mean, look at bears for example - grizzly, polar bear, brown bear … panda. Suddenly there is a vegan in the group, but with the same type of carnivore teeth.
Honestly that they have 4 large canini in total is by far the least interesting part about the anatomy of a camels mouth. Look at the unique rough roof of the mouth and look how they casually eat cactus. Their mouth is like a heavy leather bag filled with bricks mashing anything that gets between them.
I’ve seen camels eat cacti before, but it doesn’t make it easier to watch them do it. They don’t seem to mind much though. Perhaps it’s like a chili or wasabi to them.
Huh. I guess the camel mouth pictures I saw before have all their teeth extracted or something? Second pic absolutely looked like that of a large cat pic to the untrained eye (mine)
Fron what I’ve read, there are differences in breeds (alpacas for example have very small canines compared to other species), females have smaller canines than males (on average), and they’re also usually removed / clipped for domesticated camelids (example with an alpaca: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyXSrIUkFNg)
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