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Yeah, it’s not even close, BT uses stunning amounts of energy nytimes.com/…/bitcoin-carbon-footprint-electricit…

yogthos ,
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sure, when the government looks like this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulash_Communism

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capitalism

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yogthos ,
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the least racist redditor on lemmy

yogthos , (edited )
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Imagine linking kyivpost as if it’s a credible source. Might as well link an article from Weekly World News next.

edit: I love how downvotes immediately come in when you point out the obvious, as long as the article says what people want to hear they all of a sudden stop caring about credible sources

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They don’t, the article is from an Ukrainian tabloid. The same people who brought us the ghost of Kyiv.

yogthos ,
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Yeah, pretty sure that’s the one.

yogthos ,
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I love how westerners think of themselves as the entire world. Here’s what the entire world actually thinks

Meanwhile, what’s actually been revealed is that everything NATO has thrown into this proxy war is now burning and turns out that fabled NATO tactics didn’t even allow Ukraine to reach the first line of Russian defences.

Even western media now admits that Ukraine is on the brink of collapse.

Meanwhile, Russia has already made more significant advances in the past couple of weeks than Ukraine managed during the whole 10 weeks of the offensive www.cnn.com/2023/08/10/europe/…/index.html

Meanwhile, west is losing trillions while Russian economy is growing as reported by UBS businessinsider.com/war-in-ukraine-russia-richer-…

Maybe try engaging with reality instead of guzzling propaganda all day.

yogthos ,
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or it’s possible that you’re just guzzling propaganda because it says what you want to believe

yogthos ,
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In this case, they are quoting a primary source. So irrespective of your opinion of their journalistic integrity, this appears to be factual information.

Let’s start with the fact that he’s not some top Russian commander, and he’s not even part of the actual Russian military. He’s one of the commanders of the militias who’ve been fighting against the regime. the article is clearly misrepresenting his position and authority.

Here’s another source from Reuters that discusses the Ukrainian Marines retaking Urozhaine

Meanwhile, these little villages change sides pretty much every day of the conflict. You can see on the pro Ukrainian map how small this place is and that it’s not even close to Russian defensive lines liveuamap.com/#

Perhaps you can explain why you think this is a significant event here. Seems like this is a much bigger deal www.cnn.com/2023/08/10/europe/…/index.html

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I just can’t imagine why people would rise up against a regime that was doing these things to their own people

yogthos ,
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Show me where Russian military commanders are posting on telegram about the state of the war.

yogthos ,
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Pretty much the level of discourse I’ve come to expect from liberals here.

yogthos ,
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I primarily use mainstream western sources such as WSJ, NYT, Financial Times, Business Insider, and the Economist. If you think these sources are somehow biased pro Russia you need to get your head checked.

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None of these people are commanders in Russian military. What I said was that Russian military commanders aren’t talking about the progress of the war on Telegram. Go show me where Surovikin it posting about progress of battles for example.

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ISW is a propaganda outlet run by Vicky Nuland, so if that’s where you get your information from that explains a lot about your world view. The fact that a lot of people in the west guzzle propaganda isn’t really an argument.

Therefore, you you should stick to actual facts of the situation instead of making stuff up.

If you were concerned about the truth then you wouldn’t be pretending that the uprising in Donetsk was somehow orchestrated when there’s a mountain of evidence to the contrary. Let’s take a look at a few slides from this lecture that Mearsheimer gave back in 2015 to get a bit of background on the subject. Mearsheimer is certainly not pro Russian in any sense, and a proponent of US global hegemony. First, here’s the demographic breakdown of Ukraine:

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/9881f4d9-5023-4c4a-8379-779cc4776e1e.png

here’s how the election in 2004 went:

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this is the 2010 election:

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As we can clearly see from the voting patterns in both elections, the country is divided exactly across the current line of conflict. Furthermore, a survey conducted in 2015 further shows that there is a sharp division between people of eastern and western Ukraine on which economic bloc they would rather belong to:

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The reality is that the population in these areas is largely ethnic Russian and after US sponsored coup regime started doing things like banning Russian language, these people rebelled against it.

Furthermore, here’s what CNN was reporting the regime doing in Donbas back in 2014 twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296

Here’s an article from the human rights watch hrw.org/…/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munition…

And here’s a whole documentary of the atrocities these people suffered yewtu.be/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs

Pretending this was somehow orchestrated as opposed to directly caused by the oppression of the regime is the height of dishonesty. Which is pretty weird to see coming out from somebody who seeks the truth.

Plenty of western experts have been talking about this for many decades. This only became controversial to mention after the war started. Here’s what Chomsky has to say on the issue recently:

truthout.org/…/us-approach-to-ukraine-and-russia-…

truthout.org/…/noam-chomsky-us-military-escalatio…

As for a Kupyansk, I’m not at all surprised because as you say, there has been give and take along the border for the entire duration of the war. And since Russia still has its inventory a large amount of artillery, any town is at risk of attack.

Except Russia made many kilometres of progress there and Ukraine is now evacuating from the area. That’s not give and take, that’s Ukrainian position collapsing. Russia isn’t evacuating anybody at any single point that Ukraine was trying to break through for the past 10 weeks.

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I think many people are forgetting that the larger army, vastly outnumbering Ukrainian resources in numbers, has spent the past 9 months creating multilayered defences that the Ukrainian army has been banging their head against for the past 10 weeks. Ukraine no longer has a functioning military industry of its own or even an economy to speak of. It’s entirely dependent on the west at this point.

NATO scrounged up all they had for this offensive, and US even ran out of shells to give having to resort to cluster munitions. NATO also trained Ukrainian soldiers. Now all of this is being lost without any actual progress being made. Ukraine hasn’t even managed to reach the first defence line being mired in the security zone.

What we will see is that once the offensive burns itself out, Russia will start an offensive of their own against a depleted and demoralized Ukrainian army. The west will not be able to send more ammunition and equipment because it doesn’t exist, and Ukraine will have lost majority of their trained and motivated soldiers who can’t be replaced.

Even western sources are now admitting that Ukraine is suffering far higher losses than Russia, and that this is primarily an artillery battle where Russia vastly outnumbers Ukrainian artillery. 80% of casualties were being caused by Russian artillery.

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Everything you say about Russia is true, but that doesn’t change the fact that this is a proxy war where US is trying to weaken Russia. You can just be against a senseless war that’s killing hundreds of thousands of people and destroying lives of millions more. Anybody who is even minimally engaging with reality can see that this war will only end one way. What the west is doing is prolonging it without changing the outcome. People of Ukraine are being cynically thrown into a meat grinder so that US can score a win in a geopolitical chess game with Russia.

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smart

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Where is air superiority? Non-existent.

Did you somehow miss all the videos of Russian aviation taking out tanks on daily basis, or the fact that Russia does massive air strike campaigns against entire Ukraine weekly for many months now? Meanwhile, Ukraine has no air force to speak of, and at this point doesn’t even have much of air defence. What you’re saying is demonstrably false.

Where are the huge tank battles?

There aren’t huge tank battles because Russia is letting Ukraine blow up all their tanks in minefields and hunts them down with lancets. The battles we’ve seen so far are Ukrainian columns following a single mine clearing vehicle that gets taken out by a helicopter or artillery. Then the column ends up being stuck because it’s in a minefield, and the rest of the vehicles are systematically destroyed. These were the first two weeks of the offensive after which Ukraine abandoned the fabled NATO tactics and went back to sending penny packets of troops to get ground down by artillery.

I am amazed that someone can still believe in the Russian military when despite overwhelming numbers, Russia has not been able to defend itself against its neighbor, 1/5th its size and certainly less prepared for war.

That’s because you have absolutely no clue regarding the subject you’re opining on. Here’s what an actual expert has to say www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine

You think it’s a sign of victory that Russia is now using WW2 era tanks they are pulling out of storage?

What this actually shows is that Russia doesn’t even feel the need to pull out its modern equipment, they’re clearing out their old inventory the exact same way NATO is.

NATO is not running out of stock, it is simply getting rid of old inventory and ramping up production on new munitions.

Biden literally admitted that US ran out of high explosive shells to send. This is also admitted by mainstream media. Meanwhile, this is what the "dramatic increase in production actually looks like:

Army Secretary Christine Wormuth separately told reporters that the U.S. will go from making 14,000 155mm shells each month to 20,000 by the spring and 40,000 by 2025.

That’s what Russia uses on daily basis, and Russia produces over a million shells a year

You really should spend a bit of time educating yourself instead of spreading misinformation here.

yogthos ,
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I provide sources and actual arguments to support what I’m saying. If that’s no different in your mind, then that says a lot about you as a person.

yogthos ,
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stay mad

yogthos ,
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Source on the thing about Nuland owning/running/operating the ISW? Not heard it before. Not saying you’re wrong of course, just genuinely want to learn more!

they don’t hide it www.aalep.eu/institute-study-war-isw

The forces are most definitely not balanced, and this whole idea of a frozen conflict is just the new narrative the west is pushing. You’ll see what happens when Russia actually starts doing offensive operations.

yogthos ,
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There’s so much evidence for this that even western media now talks about it

You can read about the higher losses Ukraine suffers in Mearsheimer’s latest article that provides sources and citations …substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…

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The reality is that Ukraine lost its sovereignty when the legitimate and democratically elected government was overthrown in a coup. That’s when the war started between the regime in western Ukraine backed by the west and the east. Western media actually reported on this as well

I agree that at this point Ukraine is basically fucked. There was a possibility to make a deal back in March last year, but US and UK decided to sabotage it. Now, Russia will likely go all the way and there’s not going to be an Ukraine left when this war ends.

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Russian economy shrunk in 2021 as it adjusted to sanctions, but it is growing at the rate of 4.9% right now tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-growth-annual

It’s interesting how confident you are in others guzzling propaganda when it’s obvious that you aren’t coming from an objective reality-seeking viewpoint.

Your ignorant smugness is noted.

yogthos ,
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Because Russia realizes that this proxy war can escalate into a real war with NATO, and they’re obviously going to save their best weapons for that.

Meanwhile, the whole war was sold as a special military operation in Russia, meaning that Russia is not on a war footing and life for a typical person in Russia hasn’t actually changed all that much. This is basically equivalent to when US went to destroy Iraq, and most people in US didn’t really connect the war with their day to day lives.

Russian economy is currently growing at 4.9% as even western publications admit, they’ve managed to reorient their trade towards the east. On the other hand, many western countries are entering recession now, and there’s massive political unrest all over Europe.

You don’t have to be high on Russian propaganda to know this because all of this is freely admitted in western media. The fact that you don’t understand any of this shows just how ignorant you are regarding the topic you’re attempting to debate here.

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Nobody who has even a modicum of understanding of geopolitics doubts this. India and Russia have a very strong relationship that goes back to the days of USSR which was one of the biggest forces that helped liberate India from western colonization. Meanwhile, Russia losing the war would be an utter disaster for China. US is very openly trying to surround China militarily, and Russia acts as a shield in the west. The worst possible outcome for China would be the west managing to destabilize Russia and put a pro western government in power. If there was even the slightest chance that Russia could lose this conflict then China would step in.

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I absolutely love the incomprehension on the part of liberals of why Russia didn’t just throw freshly mobilized troops into a meat grinder the way Ukraine is doing. Instead, they sensibly spent the time building multi-layer defences, and training the troops knowing that the west would push Ukraine into the offensive in order to justify all the spending.

yogthos ,
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And this is precisely how NATO likes it, as long as Ukraine isn’t part of NATO then there is no obligation for NATO to get involved directly. They can just keep the proxy war going as long as they see it beneficial, and then cut and run when it burns itself out.

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US literally says it wants to prevent China from developing and has surrounded it with military bases, but whatever you say buddy. The brains of Chinese leaders aren’t as smooth as yours.

yogthos ,
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Completely agree, a lot of western propaganda relies on the fact that most people have no clue on the subject. They expect wars to look like movies or games, but real life is very different.

yogthos ,
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There was an actual article in WaPo that flat out said that the west knew that Ukraine didn’t have enough equipment to do the offensive, but pushed them into it anyways because they thought their motivation and gumption would make up for it. You just can’t make this shit up:

When Ukraine launched its big counteroffensive this spring, Western military officials knew Kyiv didn’t have all the training or weapons—from shells to warplanes—that it needed to dislodge Russian forces. But they hoped Ukrainian courage and resourcefulness would carry the day.

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No, those videos don’t exist from both sides. Ukraine doesn’t have a functioning air force that can attack Russian positions.

Rheinmetall alone offers to produce up to 600,000 artillery rounds for Ukraine annually, and that’s just one company.

[citation needed]

we’re talking about 155 mm shells here specifically

honestly, I don’t know why you keep trying to argue something that’s demonstrably false, even western media openly admits the problem washingtonpost.com/…/artillery-ammunition-ukraine…

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Yeah, we’re definitely going to get a reality check sooner than later and you’re going to have to figure out how to deal with it. Meanwhile, last I checked Germany is now deindustrializing and all of Eurozone is in a recession, but hey I’m sure that has nothing to do with the fact that Europe got cut off from cheap energy.

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Last I checked Russia took Bakhmut, and they managed to use a PMC to bleed Ukrainian army there in the process which delayed the offensive and gave Russia more time to build fortifications. Even US analysts are now admitting that they advised Ukraine against trying to hold it, and blame the losses there and the delays for the current debacle.

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None of what occurred? If you’re gonna lie then at least lie about something that can’t be easily googled.

yogthos ,
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And your point is?

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I have no idea where you got this idea that Russia didn’t take the whole city, you can clearly see the whole city is under Russian control on the pro Ukrainian liveuamap liveuamap.com

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/b9649339-7ea1-4786-8386-f6258f79fb03.png

Meanwhile, the battle has been grinding for the Ukrainian military while it didn’t even engage Russian military proper on the Russian side. It was fought by a private military company. This was easily one of the biggest blunders in the war that Ukraine has made to date.

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The regime was very much committing crimes against the ethnic Russian population before they rose up. People don’t just rise and go to fight to the death for fun.

yogthos ,
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I mean you can clearly see that the city is controlled by Russia on the map, saying that Ukraine took a couple of blocks in the suburbs is just pure cope. If anything, the fact that Ukraine is still wasting resources there months after losing the city they shouldn’t have tried to contest in the first place, further shows how dysfunctional Ukrainian strategy is.

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The fact that they thought this could work shows that western sponsors of the proxy war are completely detached from reality. If they made an obvious blunder like this, one has to wonder what other terrible blunders have they been making over the past two years. It’s clearly that they’re completely out of their depth here. Yet, people still think they’re going to win because they project this level of stupidity on the Russians.

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I see you have poor reading comprehension, because the clearly says the plan to produce it. I plan to become a billionaire in the next couple of years. The reality is that it’s bullshit because here’s the actual reality of the situation:

Few people understand the remarkably protracted lead times necessary to increase arms production. Two or three years between commitment and delivery of even some basic munitions and materials is standard. Those NATO nations still accustomed to fight at all — meaning mostly the US, UK and France — have focused upon relatively small outputs. The factories do not exist to provide long runs of — for instance — conventional artillery ammunition any time soon.

You’re obviously not one of these few people. Furthermore, the article says the following:

Prices for raw materials used in arms production but not mined in EU countries have risen astronomically. The French government recently asked MBDA Missile Systems to increase its production of Mistral air-defense systems from 20 units per month, and has been offered only an increase to perhaps 40 monthly by 2025.

The German armed forces face an ammunition shortfall demanding €20 billion worth of new orders. At the current speed of contract placement, it will be 20 years before this is achieved. Susanne Wiegand, CEO of RENK Group, which makes drivetrains for tanks, said in February that only a trickle of new orders had come in.

Meanwhile, some manufacturers are obliged to struggle against the wider commercial difficulties of their owners. Britain’s Rolls-Royce has cut investment internationally following severe corporate difficulties. It owns the German-based mtu, which provides engines for tanks and armored vehicles. Yet mtu’s efforts to hire more staff and expand production are at odds with Rolls-Royce’s cutbacks elsewhere.

The IISS study concludes that belief in the permanence of America’s protective shield still causes Europe’s governments to shortchange defense. Despite all the fine words since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, “no major recapitalization of armed forces or large-scale procurement to address capability has yet materialized” — even in Britain, which beats its chest loudest in defiance of Moscow.

Meanwhile, across the Atlantic, the US too struggles to produce munitions in credible quantities for sustained combat. In World War II, President Franklin Roosevelt and Prime Minister Winston Churchill trumpeted the role of America as “the arsenal of democracy.” Today, Washington is struggling to make good on such a claim. Michael Brenes, a lecturer in history at Yale, has authored a new study that mirrors those of European critics of their own continent’s performance.

I do encourage you to try engaging with reality going forward.

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