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spujb ,

guy on lemmy “this was already obvious, why don’t they try studying something actually useful”

spujb , (edited )

i think you bring up valid instances where this is fair.

but i think i’m speaking to the very obvious and important ones that are worthy of reproduction. like i’ve seen articles be like “these corporations are responsible for 99% of climate change” or something

and the comments will be like “duh we knew that”

which true, but not empirically. being able to cite data from actual research from professionals is so valuable and far better than anecdotes or guesses. edit: and also informs meaningful policy.

that said, is there some way for a layperson like me to identify when research is not deemed worthy of reproduction? or is it a lost cause

spujb ,

not body shaming i just haven’t seen a carpet with stretch marks before!

spujb ,

ooh hot take. reasearchers should stop doing security testing for OpenAI for free. aren’t they just publishing these papers, with full details on how it might be fixed, with no compensation for that labor?

bogus. this should work more like pen testing or finding zero day exploits. make these capitalist “oPeN” losers pay to secure the shit they create.

(pls tell me why im wrong if i am instead of downvoting, just spitballing here)

spujb , (edited )

oh! i see we have two different definitions of “security,” both of which are valid to discuss, but yours is not the one that relates to my point.

you understood “security” in a harm-reduction sense. i.e., that an LLM should not be permitted to incite violence, should not partake in emotional manipulation or harrasment of the user, and a few other examples like it shouldn’t be exploitable to leak PII. well and good, i agree that researchers publishing these harm-reduction security issues is good and should be continued.

my original definition of “security” is distinct and might be called “brand security.” OpenAI primarily wants to make use of their creation by selling it to brands for use in human-facing applications, such as customer service chat bots. (this is already happening and a list of examples can be found here.) as such, it behooves OpenAI to not only make a base-level secure product, but also one that is brand-friendly. the image in the article is one example—it’s not like human users can’t use google to find instructions to build a bomb. but it’s not brand friendly if users are able to ask the Expedia support bot or something for those instructions. other examples include why openAI have intentionally kept the LLM from saying the n-word (among other slurs), kirby doing 9-11 or writing excessively unkind or offensive output for users.

these things don’t directly cause any harm, but they would harm the brand.

I think that researchers should stop doing this “brand security” work for free. I have noticed this pattern where a well-meaning researcher publishes their findings of ways they were able to manipulate the brand-unsafe blackbox they published, quickly followed by a patch once the news spreads. In essence these corps are getting free QA for their products when they should just be hiring and paying these researchers for their time.

spujb ,

yes i am aware? are they being used by openai?

spujb ,

glad i was able to clarify.

there’s little incentive for these companies to actually address these (brand security) issues

this is where i disagree, and i think the facts back me up here. bing’s ai no longer draws kirby doing 9/11. openAI continues to crack down on ChatGPT saying slurs. it’s apparent to me that they have total incentive to address brand security, because brands are how they are raking in cash.

spujb ,

the fact that you explained the problem doesn’t make it not a problem

spujb ,

misleading title:

In addition to the Pride flag, the measure approved by voters bans religious flags and breast cancer awareness flags, according to the Los Angeles Blade.

the measure only applies to city property and does not “ban” individuals from anything. but whatever gets clicks i guess 🤷‍♀️

spujb ,

it absolutely is because of that. i do not disagree :) just asking for a better headline

spujb ,

intelligence, unlike wealth, is not a one dimensional metric

you could identify several hundred different definitions of identifying “top 1% intelligence” and get totally different results for every one

spujb ,

plot of The Shining

spujb ,

anti jeme (jean meme) sentiment is so last week by posting so late you are only prolonging your own suffering

spujb ,

never blame the powerless when the one with all the power is calling the shots

doing so is called victim blaming and is generally frowned upon

spujb ,

submissive ass sign

spujb OP ,

preach 🗣️💯

spujb OP ,

no

spujb OP ,

real

spujb OP ,

no clue wtf this is but im glad you all have found community in it despite your struggles ❤️

spujb OP ,

actual picture of me: https://lemmy.cafe/pictrs/image/5ef3e225-afb3-48a0-bd43-a6fe709ad721.webp

spujb OP ,

jupvote?

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spujb OP ,

she is serving you a surge-overpriced Jaconator

spujb ,

i’m saying!

“pls give us original content”

“wait not like that”

spujb ,

megamind netflix adaptation

Wendy’s Vows No Burger ‘Surge Pricing’ After Online Fury (www.thedailybeast.com)

Wendy’s has spoken to its manager after suggestions that it plans to introduce “surge pricing” to its menu received a decidedly frosty response this week, with the company scrambling to clarify that it has no intention of making itself the Uber of fast-food chains.

spujb ,

now that it’s over, and i know it’s different bc it’s not a starvation wage mega corp, but remember when a bar in michigan did exactly this? i remember reddit being so enamored with this

https://lemmy.cafe/pictrs/image/9b3717c5-6bde-465c-bb57-e7d4b254e711.webp

spujb ,

market pricing is simply a tool that can be misused haha. it has never been exclusive to capitalism and of itself has nothing to do with greed.

i understand that you have good intentions but please learn how to have fun before attacking people on the internet.

spujb ,

my fault

Google CEO says Gemini AI diversity errors are ‘completely unacceptable’ (www.theverge.com)

Google CEO says Gemini AI diversity errors are ‘completely unacceptable’::In an internal memo, Google CEO Sundar Pichai told employees that the historically inaccurate photos generated by the company’s Gemini AI were ‘completely unacceptable.’

spujb ,

if you find QA people do to QA and pay them to do QA this won’t happen.

but that’s not cost saving, is it?

spujb ,

no? alphabet lost $90bil in value over this, why on earth would an entity choose to make a design decision that breaks investor confidence?

the initial choice to make the AI “diverse,” sure, that’s intentional. but the method by which it was done had unintentional consequences, and that is the problem which QA would have fixed.

spujb , (edited )

there’s no way to QA public response

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_group

there are literally dozens of ways marketers have come up with to do exactly what you are claiming is impossible 🙃

spujb ,

i think i started this trend almost a week ago and it’s so weird to see.

…i approve

spujb ,

he mokin he igs :’)

that being said down with the tobacco industry >:)

spujb ,

upvoted for being biologically accurate.

also what happens if i start chucking these at cops from across the florida-alabama border?

spujb ,

for anyone who was struggling for a minute to remember where this is from it’s from legally blonde

Epstein Had a Creepy Panopticon Room to Monitor All His Guests (www.thedailybeast.com)

All of this would not be possible, the lawsuit says, without Epstein’s right-hand men: his longtime personal lawyer Darren Indyke and accountant Richard Kahn, who’ve long denied any wrongdoing in connection with their former boss....

spujb ,

i’m nitpicking but this is not what a panopticon is.

spujb ,

you and every person who upvoted you did not read the article lol

spujb ,

it is.

spujb ,

while i agree with calling out google to do better, im really scared by the vehemence of these comments.

anyway please note that the domestic violence hotline is here and available for all genders. ❤️

spujb OP ,

NTA.

spujb OP ,

r/playboicarti

spujb OP ,

yo mista white AITA?

spujb OP ,

buying mugs

X suspends account of Navalny's wife (news.sky.com)

X suspends account of Navalny’s wife::The widow of Alexei Navalny, Yulia Navalnaya, has had her X account restored after it was briefly suspended for unknown reasons. Meanwhile, his brother has been put on Russia’s wanted list. Listen to a Daily podcast special on the Russian opposition after Navalny’s death as you scroll.

spujb ,

it’s kind of a common trope in history that pieces of shit can still represent the idea of a broader good.

ghandi was also pretty much scum irl too. (this comment defends neither of them and implies no further similarities than that they are shitty and represented an oppositional movement.)

spujb ,

it’s cringe but equaly cringy is posting it to here and the comments pretending you couldn’t find a dozen similar examples on lemmy lol, like the demographic is not that different.

heaven forbid some cringey individuals spread some positive energy online! they should be more toxic and debate lord-ey with every comment.

reddit always had an incredible individuality, not-like-other-girls complex and it’s truly wonderful to see that that mindset has immediately migrated here. never change, reddit circlejerk brainrot, my love. 😍

spujb ,

i’m installing this comment bare metal on my 2006 thinkpad

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