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— source: trust me bro!

snek ,
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That is literally what you basically keep saying everywhere. That this cannot be a genocide because Israel is somehow a democracy. Your only sources are people like John Spencer and other such propaganda arns.

US aid policy on Gaza 'absurd' given military support for Israel, UN expert says (www.reuters.com)

A U.N. expert on Friday criticised U.S. efforts to boost humanitarian aid to Gaza, such as plans for a temporary port and recent air drops, which he said were “absurd” and “cynical” methods so long as military aid to Israel continues....

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Hamas came into existence because of Israel’s gross international law violations, like the siege on Gaza, the apartheid wall, Jerusalem being ethnically cleansed, that sort of stuff.

Without Israeli aggression, Hamas would never be here.

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Fuck Zionist and pro-Putin trash instead!

Israeli tank in 'likely scenario' fired machine gun at reporters after deadly shelling, report finds (www.reuters.com)

BEIRUT/THE HAGUE, March 7 (Reuters) - An Israeli tank crew killed a Reuters reporter in Lebanon in October by firing two shells at a clearly identified group of journalists and then “likely” opened fire on them with a heavy machine gun in an attack that lasted 1 minute and 45 seconds, according to a report into the incident...

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Ah yes the magical part where the IDF denies it or says oops and you absolutely find that as a good enough excuse for starving 2 million human beings who are no different than you.

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Good. May they forever stay down. Who cares.

Pro-Palestinian groups decry real estate events at synagogues over concerns occupied land being sold (www.cbc.ca)

On Sunday, dozens of people gathered near the Aish Hatorah synagogue in Thornhill, Ont., to protest an event that organizers say was aimed at helping people in the Toronto area buy property in Israel. They were met with pro-Israeli counterprotestors and Jewish leaders took issue with the Sunday protest taking place outside a...

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My family got agricultural land from the Ottoman Empire to build a small town. I have the town map and names of all main families and inhavitants there since my grandma left in 1947. I would love to show you. They never attacked anyone… unlike the Zionists that came and killed them and forced the rest to the Nakba.

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No one should be dehomed again. They can stay… in democratic Palestine.

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It’s Palestinian land. How many times do we have to tell you?

Also how is one not a racist when one dehumanizes Palestinians simply because one supports Israel (who wants them all dead or gone)?

If we ever met in person, would you dehumanize me this way and deny me the right to self determination or any human rights?

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And what makes you think Palestinuans aren’t capable of democracy?

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My great grandfather died aged 100. He lived to see the Ottoman Empire fall. The area was always called Palestine. When he died, he was already much older than Israel itself. He died a Palestinian whether you like it or not or whether you think we Palestinians need to wait for you or the US or someone to validate our existence or not (hint: nope we don’t).

Palestine exists. Palestinians exist. A national Palestinian identity exists. Whether you and Spencer and all your funny biased writers and heros believe that or not.

The Palestinian people deserve self determination. And anything less is probably purely out of racism :)

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Have you ever met any Palestinian in your life?

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Okay, so should we cancel democracy now because Israel’s genocide is making it impssible?

🤔

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Yeah that must be it. Let’s wait 20 years until Israel has killed or ethnically cleansed the last Gazan in Gaza and then we Palestinians can wait for the good graces of Israel to allow us to have a democracy or decide that we are no longer undemocratic “savages”.

Lol.

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The goal is to ethnically cleanse Palestine.

Israel will probably go after every pro-Pslestinian as they are doing now in other countries.

Anyone who is in their way has always suffered and will suffer more under apartheid and oppression.

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If you use a browser, sone extensions for parental control allow you to filter out words or replace them with other ines . Helped me a lot to clear my mind.

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Ah yes but US State department media, that’s good enough for you xD

Sounds biased smh

The New York Times should not be considered a reliable source of journalism.

The New York Times is one of the newspapers of record for the United States. However, it’s history of running stories with poor sourcing, insufficient evidence, and finding journalists with conflicts of interest undermines it’s credibility when reporting on international issues and matters of foreign policy....

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Alright, so while you’re totes cool with posting links to a “news agency” controlled by the Iranian government, you have a bone to pick with the NYT?

But these things are irrelevant. They could still post “propaganda sites” and NYT could still also be wrong.

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But what Israel did to Gazans is just as bad as a thousand October 7th.

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The first paper you linked to basically makes the argument and it’s not an apartheid system because Gazans are not citizens of Israel… never stopping for a moment to wonder how they ended up refugees in Gaza instead of citizens of Palestine…

Do you not understand that Israel stole land from Palestinians using law, using force, and using ethnic cleansing? Do you not understand that Gazans SHOULD be citizens and have full rights and tjat denying them this while also building a gisnt siege wall around a little strip is the apartheid part, right?

That paper sounds like it was written by a stinky slithering lying lawyer who thinks this “loophole” cancels human rights for Palestinians. It ignores how the West Bank is made to shrink under zones.

And also, Palestinian citizens of Israel do have it shit.

Btw turns out the two people who wrote the paper also wrote this one: papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=40876…

This is the kind of intellectual smut that you read… lawyers who want to make it legal to steal land from the native population.

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The second link you posted is a study by a Zionist think tank lobbyist called Robbie Sabel

Prof. Robbie Sabel is the former legal advisor to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Deputy Director General for Arms Control of the Ministry, and former Israeli counselor in Washington

Yes… totally unbiased and free of emotion!

Is any article you read not written by some propaganda arm of the Israeli government?

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They’re talking about Palestinians :/

Yeah, I think you are actually racist

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You have now lost your mind /:

snek ,
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Don’t you see how killing 30,000 is not acceptable just because more died in a bigger genocide? Don’t you see how hypocritical it is to believe in “Never again” but fall short of applying it?

snek OP ,
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We should never treat anyone the way Israel treats Palestinians.

snek ,
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Eye witnesses say the shots came first them the stampede. I think Aljazeera has footage of the moments before it all started.

snek ,
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From what I’ve gathered, many were shot in the upper body but many more died due to a stampede in the chaos that came after IDF shooting at a crowd with thousands of people.

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Just because it’s become a daily occurrence (thanks Israel!) doesn’t mean we should stop talking about it.

snek ,
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Have you tried clearing your sinuses with a netty pot or similar?

snek ,
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Hamas should surrender right now and bring the violence to an end but it won’t.

I think it’s absolutely naive to think that Israeli oppression of Palestinians would end by anyone surrendering.

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I invite you to read the later career section. Some of it:

In his last recorded interview, coinciding with the 2014 Israel-Gaza Conflict, he lambasted Zionists as Nazi criminals, asserted that German hatred of Jews was less deeply grounded than Israeli-Jewish hatred of Palestinians, and denounced PM Benjamin Netanyahu’s remarks that demonstrations against the war were evidence of hatred of Israel.[citation needed] He was the first signatory of a statement by 250 Holocaust survivors and descendants of Holocaust survivors protesting that war.[19]

At one talk, organized and hosted by the leader of the UK’s Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, in 2010, Meyer was later reported to have repeatedly likened Israel’s actions against the people of the Gaza Strip to the mass killing of Jews in the Holocaust and likened the government of Israel to that of Nazi Germany.[14][15]

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I think they made the comparison to attempt to prevent a genocide. Sadly due to gatekeeping of the terms Nazis and Holocaust, they instead got called anti semitic and maybe lost their jobs.

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I agree that the victims of the holocaust are 17 million by many estimates, but did you notice how the wikipedia page of it only mentions 6 million Jewish deaths under the Holocaust definition as an event?

Curious to know what you think about that because it irks me. I don’t see how all those dead Polish people aren’t part of the tally.

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Israel is not a majoritarian state. Very few Palestinians are allowed to vote or get any proper representation in government. How can they be ruled by a majority without even the right to vote?? It’s no different than when women and blacks couldn’t vote in elections in the US, and it’s no diffenrent than south Africa.

But does that phase you one bit? Nope.

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Thanks. Admittedly this person just drives me up the wall /: they don’t like it when I respond and has said they tried to block me… I offered help to show them how and I’m still unblocked so I will continue to challenge their crap

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Israel is a legitimate state. It is allowed to have military bases. Gaza is not.

Why not? Don’t Palestinians have the right to self determination and a state?

Discrimination is not great, but in a democracy that can be fixed.

Then why has Israel not managed to “fix” this? Maybe because no Palestinians are allowed to vote and rarely ever to Palestinian and non-Jewish Israelis make it to a high political position?

Actually, if you ask them to, they’ll will probably stone you to death as an infidel

Do you have any proof of this?

Hamas does all kinds of shit, but I’ve never heard of them stoning anyone.

You seem to be lumping a bunch of Islamophobic stereotypes into one then projecting it on Hamas. Why?

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As you noticed, @JustZ just skipped over your entire explanation and now claims that you are defending Hamas. Classic.

snek ,
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saying Israel is an apartheid state is an anti Jewish statement.

Meanwhile in Occupied Palestinian Territories:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ef123a82-0ce2-4c01-b7e0-c36305a488d3.jpeg

snek ,
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Apartheid is a system of minority rule.

Citation please?

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That article you linked to about Hamas tunnels is wtitten by a guy namrd John Spencer. Same said guy said elsewhere that the IDF is takinh more measures than the US in Iraq and Afghanistan to protect civilians. Just for reference so that you know that what you consider “unbiased recognized law” is just yet another staunch pro Zionist writer.

algemeiner.com/…/west-point-urban-warfare-expert-…

Seems like almost any opinion you hsve echos that guy’s opinion. :/

Are you John Spencer?

He even loves Bibi.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f313836d-d35a-451e-844a-be10d383c3b5.jpeg

You have been tricked, my bud.

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Like this guy?

Like John Spencer? Who gets his research reviewed and rwferenced and looked at by Bibi? You think that this guy is telling you the truth and isn’t a propaganda arm of Israel???

If you discard Al Jazeera for being funded by Qatar, then be fair and discard John Spencer for being a literal propaganda pusher.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/52203747-a5c7-41e0-aee6-94aa2dee7bb7.jpeg

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