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Leaked NYT Gaza Memo Tells Journalists to Avoid Words “Genocide,” “Ethnic Cleansing,” and “Occupied Territory” (theintercept.com)

The New York Times instructed journalists covering Israel’s war on the Gaza Strip to restrict the use of the terms “genocide” and “ethnic cleansing” and to “avoid” using the phrase “occupied territory” when describing Palestinian land, according to a copy of an internal memo obtained by The Intercept....

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And just when you think you’ve seen the worst of it…

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It rides on a reputation

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I vote for adding the tails os logo too

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I meant tails as one tool people use specifically for added security.

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Some clarifitcations and corrections:

ALL non-Muslim religious practices are not allowed in Saudi Arabia, they hate EVERYONE else, not directed specifically at Jews. Alsp, I lived in Jordan for most of my life and have never seen any law to indicate that claim. I also tried to google that. Could you source that claim? Because if it is true, then it would be directly contradicting the Jordanian constitution.

My friend’s grandmother is a Palestinian Jew who lives in Jordan and never seems to have had any legal trouble (even in the religious marriage court).

And yes, Jews from Arab countries have been cleansed and forced to leave during this: …wikipedia.org/…/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_wo…But that was only one factor. Many simply immigrate for pull or push factors. That is not to undermine the terrible event of anyone being forced out of their home.

Finally, it’s good to remember what Israel did to those Yemeni Jews, whether expelled or leaving to build a better future:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemenite_Children_Affair

We need to recognize that supremacy and oppression are symptoms of destructive settler-colonial Zionism. And that it needs to end. Israel is not the Jewish state Jews deserve… they deseeve much better as dignified people than to have this country (founded on violence, lies, and colonialism) drag their name in the mud and use the holocaust to justify genociding Palestinians. Jews deserve better than an undemocratic apartheid state that indoctrinate them from the cradle to the grave.

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Almost everyone absolutely thinks Saudi Arabis is abhorrent, any involvement they hsve with any human rights groups is instantly identified as whitewashing and becomes a meme. Protests in Iran receieved wide global attention and support. We don’t hold Israel to a different light. It’s the same light, Israel is just one if the really bad baddies.

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@JustZ here is the legal definition of the crime of Apartheid

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_of_apartheid

"The crime of apartheid is defined by the 2002 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court as inhumane acts of a character similar to other crimes against humanity “committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime" .”

The other definitions are similar. Nothing about majority or minority. Nothing about having to be exactly like South Africa.

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"in which the minority political bloc purported to rule over the unconsenting majority, "

to all the nice folks reading this gibberish, please know that this is flat out misinformation. @JustZ had never been able to support this with any kind of source and it is not in the legal definition of apartheid. The crime of apartheid definition is very clear and says this applies to any racial group with absolutely NOTHING about it having to be a racial minority over a majority (and by miniority here, JustZ also just means less population).

Here is the definition of apartheid according to the ICC:

The ‘crime of apartheid’ means inhumane acts of a character similar to those referred to in paragraph 1, committed in the context of an institutionalised regime of systematic oppression and domination by ONE RACIAL GROUP OVER ANY OTHER RACIAL GROUP OR GROUPS and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime.

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You should use it in the legal sense :)

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@JustZ do you know why you can never respond to this? Because your lame argument rests entirely now on your false definition of Apartheid. Once that is gone, you are forced to admit that ISRAEL IS A RACIST COLONIAL APARTHEID STATE and very little about its founding and practices is actually legal.

Don’t be the kind of law expert that enables evil by saying BS like this…

It hurts, I get it. It’s okay. You can cross that bridge.

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“As practiced in South Africa.”

What is this from? Source?

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This is more Musk spam than it is tech-related.

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Daphne Anne Caruana Galizia…

I am a girl and I use “guy” in a gender neutral way.

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Language is chabgeable. I always say “guys” for mixed groups. Seems like some more people agree or don’t care.

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Thanks for writing this long post but I’m not really going to read it. Not interested in a side trackwd conversation about a non-issue.

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Yep I also say dude to men and women. Big deal.

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Don’t kid. Call her dude or guy, I literally do not care.

(I kid not and don’t see the point, and for a “Cosmic” Cleric, you seem a bit uptight and closeminded)

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Woop anorher long one! Noping out of here.

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Oh no another long one! This time I only skimmed through the first sentence.

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Dude.

How does the day-to-day work of not wearing shoes in the house?

I have been reading a lot lately about not wearing outside shoes in the house and it interests me even more because I’ve been saving to re-carpet my whole house. It hits me every now and then about how to do things though, like, say I’m cooking all day on Sunday then need to take the trash out. I’m assuming it’s change...

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Meanwhile people in Gaza have no shoes and will be killed by Israel before they ever hit 80. Have a nice day, genocide denier!

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Aid has not been flowing in until recently and Israel would not allow an atom of food in if they could.

This is not ragebait, it’s real news, but you just call whatever you fear a bunch of names and move on.

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“You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. Read some books little kid.”

Whatever your age is, you sure as hell don’t act it.

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The 100,000,000 peole in Iran all fund genocide?

I guess if you are an American, then you are also funding genocide by this logic. You and every single American in existence.

I think you don’t view Middle Easterners as humans.

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Oh bugger off!!! You can’t even accept credible sources. Maybe YOU should stop talking nonsense all over every day

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“Winding down” my fucking ass. Go ahead, do it, show us how 80 people dead per day instead of 100 is “winding it down”.

The stench of death is all over Gaza, they will find dead bodies for months, and some of that blood is on your hands and it will never ever wash off.

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Do you know anything at all about Palestinians in Israel? Because you sound super ignorant. Do you know how many of them get killed or harassed or fired?

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Don’t apologize to @JustZ. He is a genocide denier who is oksy with dehumanizing Palestinians and denied any Israeli atrocities by calling them “just reports”. If you prove him wrong, he will say that you “got tricked”.

In my eyes he is just a racist.

Reporting some of his nonsense works but he only gets temp bans and then jumps right back into the quagmire of his own words.

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Yep… that person told me they know more about apartheid than south africa… this is what we are dealing with.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fdcfea7a-4273-45db-a61d-3ad417cf4a0b.jpeg

lemmy.world/comment/7866311

I find it so pathetic… he thinks he is the one who is “awakened” and we are all jusy blind. I’m sure it brings him some kind of satisfaction thinking he is smarter than everyone else while cheering for the literal mass killing of school children and and piles of innocent adults now rendered to dead decaying bodies.

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Actually, they do accuse Israel of it (that is why it’s deemed possible that they are committing genocide), but have not ruled for or against this yet.

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You anf your children won’t have time to get pissed. Israel will have killed you all anyway by the time you come to your conclusion… for a tunnel you did not build.

Apparently Israel was fine with 15-20 civilian casualties just for the sniff of a Hamas fighter in the area, using dumb bombs.

btw do you know why your posts keep getting so long?

It’s because of the inner conflict. Even you find it hard to justify this BS to yourself so you have to wrestle with words and excuses.

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Why is that “r” stuck to that “m”?

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I’m surprised that they didn’t claim that their Palestinian driver was just KHAMAS.

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If I understand correctly, they accidentally shot at three vehicles all marked with WCK?

Lol at least they didn’t deny being there like they did with Hind Rajab even though we have footage of their tanks in that area during rhat incident

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“Oops sorry! We thought they were just Palestinians”

— Israel

Israel moves to shut down Al Jazeera after new law allows for ‘security threat’ bans on international media | CNN (edition.cnn.com)

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to shut down news network Al Jazeera following the passage Monday of a sweeping law allowing the government to ban foreign networks perceived as posing a threat to national security....

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It breaks my fucking heart that almost all Israeli protests I see are about “getting our loved ones out of HELL” rather than stopping said HELL that your government has created, and saving both your loved ones and everyone else’s loved ones.

But then again it seems that saying that the IDF is being genocidal will cost you your job in Israel (at least).

I feel like the dehumanizing and erasure of Palestinians is far more widespread in Israeli society than I’d hoped for.

US pushes alternatives to Rafah invasion in Hamas war talks with Israel (apnews.com)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Top American and Israeli officials held virtual talks Monday as the U.S. pushed alternatives to the ground assault against Hamas under consideration by Israelis in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, a move the U.S. opposes on humanitarian grounds and that has frayed relations between the two allies....

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You mean like the Palestinians who are citizens of Israel but still dehumanized and treated like shit?

Please pop that goddamn fucking bubble already

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Hmm, if only I didn’t know you’re a total troll who will jump from point to point.

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Ah yes, @JustZ, any link that crushes every one of your points is irrelevant.

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Yeah sure thing bro

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Except it’s not a distinguishing feature. All these fine people have tried to show you evidence from experts on apartheid.

The reason you don’t want to fix this mistake that you keep parrotting to everyone is that you’d have to come to terms with being a genocide supporter.

This whole “minority rule” that you have gotten so pedantic about in some kind of tunnel vision is an excuse. A really sad excuse.

South Africa’s apartheid was one example of minority rule over a majority. This is unique to South Africa and IS NOT some kind of defining feature of it. Apartheid is a racial segregation system that can come about in many ways. Israel has checked almost every box on the list: actual racial segragation, robbing Palestinians of their human rights even of they are citizens of Israel, literally building TWO separation walls, etc, etc.

Even South Africa itself clearly called Israel an apartheid state, but as a response we both recall how you claimed to know more about apartheid than South Africa. So even if all legal experts in the world disagreed with you, you would still not change your opinion.

Don’t you see the pattern of your thinking? I’m seriously asking.

Period.

See? We can both do this “period” shit. It doesn’t make us right.

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PS: you remind me of Napoleon (the pig)

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@JustZ what? No answer? Why? Because the fact that even Palestinian Israelis get treated like shit and it totally wrecks your flimsy point??

Let me make it easier for you to respond since alm your responses are predictable:

  1. YOU GOT TRICKED!!!
  2. THESE ARE JUST REPORTS!!!
  3. MAYBE THE PALESTINIANS SHOULD JUST STOP RESISTING!!! IDIOT TERROTISTS!!!
  4. ANY CRITICISM OF ISRAEL IS ANTISEMITIC, PEROIODDDDDDD!!!

So simply answer with 1, 2, 3, or 4… Or all of the above?

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You mean you took me being upset avout murder and genocide as “being emotional” so it can be another excuse for you to deny this genocide and call people’s reaction unjustified?

And by basic media literacy, you mean that I get my information from verified international sources instead of from that lawfare blog from which you have parroted every argument like a good blind little lawyer?

Yes, I’m a firey person, but at least I’m honest with myself.

But I will take that as a “No, I don’t know anything about Palestinian citizens of Israel… I just repeat crap I heard or read as long as it supports my worldview”

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Right, so how would you gurantee a right of return for Gazans? They would be idiots to leave given Israel’s history of ethbic cleansing and land theft.

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Right… I really wonder where you get this nonsense from.

But no, Israel is the one who would prevent them from returning, just like it prevented every single one of my grandparents and their families from every returning.

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… Now I am sure you ar a troll.

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