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james ,

I thought this was the dumbest thing until I had one. Now I have one in every toilet.

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james OP ,

I’ve never moved off the free tier, even when self hosting. Although I did get to use a paid version at a previous job and I admit some of those features were nice.

Are they paying on GitHub?

james OP ,

I agree with both of you (not sure why the one got so many downvotes).

Git is not centralized. GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket, Gitea, is a centralized server.

These services are more than just git repositories. They’re issue tracking, merge/pull requests, wikis, CI/CD, etc. If the service is lost, the source is still out there but it could be quite the pain to get going again.

james OP ,

That’s actually one of the reasons I’m partial to GitLab, it’s all open. Including their version of copilot.

james OP ,

I’m forced to agree, GitLab’s pricing could be easier to understand and more competitive.

I haven’t ran into the 5 user limit; I suspect that’s not a limit of the self-hosted version. I will say it’s a pain to get a clear understanding of what is available and what’s not on the free edition when self hosting… also there are 2 free editions (community and unlicensed enterprise) now which adds to the confusion.

james OP ,

I haven’t run into the resource issue (running in docker), but yeah I wish I could turn off some UI features. We never need to upload designs so why do I have to look at it on every issue?

james OP , (edited )

When I looked some could be disabled and some couldn’t 🤷
I’m not a devops engineer I only play one when no one else is willing.

james OP ,

i don’t get what benefit hosting your own git brings to be honest

Same reason to host anything, I’m not beholden to some company’s whims.

james OP , (edited )

You bring up some good points. I agree on the risk, even though I’m a fan I find federated tools harder to get started with.

I agree git is decentralized, but services like GitHub are not. They’re more than just hosting code. They’re issues, wiki’s, CI/CD, peer reviews, etc.

how do you control who can and cannot make changes to your codebase?

I’d image it’s the same as now. Except now you could say @everyone is cool and can contribute, or @those@over-there shouldn’t even be allowed to see this code.

How do you ensure you maintain access if a server goes down?

How do you do this on GitHub?

what value does that provide over the status quo?

I feel like this is the root of fediverse problems. It’s easy to send your first tweet, but that first toot takes some effort (I just learned they’re called toots).

james OP ,

I don’t think I’ve ever discovered projects by perusing GitHub. It’s always the “fork this” link on a project page or a link from an article.

I’ve learned I don’t use most of the internet the way everyone else does, so my anecdotal evidence is nothing to go by. 🤣

james OP ,

Yeah, I have no clue how they make software that’s so damn inefficient.

Software is a gas.

james OP ,

Legacy I would say. Github used to be the first and the best.

I know this is the answer, but I’m sad when the answer is “because we’ve always done it that way”.

james ,

Take a screen shot of the desktop. Set that screen shot as the desktop background and delete some of the icons/shortcuts.

james ,

Its funny when some work and some don’t 🤣

What’s the fediverse’s answer to email? And everything else we use?

The talk about “enshittification” made me think of the very email we use for the instances we signed up and instantly, it paints a grim picture. One of my account used gmail to sign up. Some proton mail. It reminds me that these too are companies beholden to their shareholders....

james ,

Before I knew the word federated I always wondered why all these social media platforms don’t work like email.

Government officials use government controlled email accounts, but then use “government” twitter accounts. Never made any sense to me. 🤷

james ,

I believe ease of use is the #1 reason people stick to non-federated networks, even the governments.

Email, I send a message directly to a person or a group. This makes the idea of a federated network a little easier to wrap your mind around. I sign up for a Google or Yahoo email service. If I’m a big nerd I set up my own and send/receive email with anyone.

Social networks, I send a message to whoever wants to listen. This is easier to understand on a non-federated network. It also doesn’t help we don’t have a Google or Yahoo microblog service. There is Mastodon and which Mastodon server do you want? This is why I’m not fundamentally opposed to Threads. I share the general concerns of it taking over and not cooperating with the spirit of federated networks, but if all there is is Mastodon people will continue to be confused.

james , (edited )

Thanks for the insight, and appreciate new terms to search. I’ve somehow never heard of Eternal September even though I was there lol.

s about IM. IRC is good for many uses, but too complicated for many, so all these private options popped up, and continue to still be with us instead of an o

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