‘The whole supply chain is subsidised’: inside the EU’s blockbuster Chinese EV probe

TheOubliette , 9 days ago

The narrative is completely different when it’s European or Anglo countries subsidizing a “green transition”. Then it’s fighting to end climate change. Though of course, because their systems are so broken, a lot of that money goes straight to grifters rather than productive capacity.

NuclearDolphin , 9 days ago

“Mom, not fair!”

veganpizza69 , 10 days ago

fuck cars

Zehzin , 10 days ago (edited 10 days ago)

Sounds good, we should do that if we’re gonna stay dependent on cars

frightful_hobgoblin , 10 days ago

That’s cheating!

When you subsidise things you’re cheating because it’s not the pure and honest Free Market

ramble81 , 10 days ago

Cool cool. Remove oil and gas subsidies and let’s see how much the true TCO is for owners (not manufacturers)

queermunist , 10 days ago

How dare they subsidize the green transition?!

riseuppikmin , 8 days ago

China is subsidizing the transition away from fossil fuels which greatly accelerate climate change and if not taken seriously immediately will lead to the deaths of tens of not hundreds of millions in the next few decades. The speed at which this transition occurs is vital in saving human lives and preventing infrastructure losses previously unfathomable. Their actions towards green energy adoption both domestically and abroad are one of the few things that provide any sense of hope about a better renewable future.

On the other hand: BUT AT WHAT COST

ksynwa , 10 days ago (edited 10 days ago)

Why is Europe suddenly pretending that subsidizing critical industries is a Chinese invention?

breadsmasher , 10 days ago

jesus christ even thid rag has put paywalls up

naturalgasbad OP , 10 days ago

Let’s look at what the EU found after investigating two of China’s largest EV companies: BYD and Geely

Their investigators turned up subsidies everywhere they looked. Lithium processers and battery makers were told by the state to sell to EV companies below market rates, they said,

Important to note here that BYD is the leading battery maker in the world. They’re also a leading lithium processor, in fact setting up lithium processing plants as far away as Chile. BYD is notorious for vertically integrating across their entire supply chain, so at least for BYD this claim makes zero sense. Berkshire Hathaway owns 9.8% of BYD.

while the car companies were exempt from battery consumption taxes.

This refers to the 4% tax on batteries instituted in 2015. Except… “But cleaner batteries including mercury-free, nickel-hydrogen, lithium and solar cell varieties will be exempted and taxation on lead storage batteries will be postponed till Jan 1, 2016.” Is the EU perhaps referring to the lead-acid batteries that feature in BYD and Geely’s hybrid products? As far as I know those should be taxed, but maybe I’m wrong and that was in fact a tax subsidy. Either way, lithium batteries are exempt from this tax.

The firms issued green bonds that government-run financial institutions were ordered to buy,

Buying corporate bonds really is subsidization and not something you’d expect to see in free market economies.

cnbc.com/…/the-fed-is-buying-some-of-the-biggest-…

www.nbim.no/en/the-fund/investments/#/2023/invest…

Wait hold on…

and were granted concessional land, income tax breaks and cheap refinancing options mandated by the People’s Bank of China, the central bank.

Dirty, dirty subsidies!

goodjobsfirst.org/nevada-woos-tesla-plant-tax-dea…

seattletimes.com/…/tesla-gets-330m-tax-deal-for-n…

venturebeat.com/…/how-tesla-got-nevada-to-give-it…

Admittedly, now I’m a little confused.

PanArab , 10 days ago

Thank you for taking the time to put things in perspective.

knfrmity , 10 days ago

The entire EU supply chain is subsidized.

naturalgasbad OP , 10 days ago

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