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Thekingoflorda ,
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Why does the link shortener a.co exist, just to make life harder for poor bot devs?

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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As mentioned in rule 4, we will only delete titles that are wrong or incorrect. Maybe we should rephrase that to “misrepresents the article”. Would that work?

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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It’s not meant like that. But the automod won’t leave a message if you use a different source.

The final rules will be collapsed, so you would only see:

rule 6: No duplicate postsIf a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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We’ll try to be reasonable with which sites we ban, but we are not perfect. So we invite discussion in the comment section of the blacklist post.

We would love to do that, but we simply don’t have the time. As mentioned, we won’t delete the posts that have url’s in the blacklist automatically, so when you get the message of the bot, and you find it unreasonable, you can discuss it with us.

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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The bot will only check that you don’t post exactly the same URL, so don’t worry (:

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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The blacklist will be available in this post: lemmy.world/post/2246130

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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They are instance rules: lemmy.world/post/1860512

Since the amount of bot devs is pretty small, we’ll probably not include it in the rules.

And since you need approval from us anyway, we can always send these rules again.

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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We discourage spamming the same story over and over again, but sometimes different sources bring different perspectives on a story. So it will be judged on a case-by-case basis.

The bot can ofcourse not detect those duplicates, so moderating it will be more difficult.

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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I agree that this sub can be very US-centric at times, but I feel like that is a product of people’s interests. Wouldn’t it be a little bit misplaced to put a “rule” to restrict the amount of US content / encourage non-US-centric content? I’m not sure, so I’ll need some further input on that (:

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  1. Good idea, I’m not a linguistic expert or an expert on racism, but I feel like it’s not a big problem to change it, and if it makes anyone feel better, it’s worth it.
  2. As main rule we focus on “reliability” and “Unbiasedness”. We then further explain that obvious biased posts, which are the most often “Bad thing” we see in this community, will be deleted. We don’t expect perfect articles, because they don’t exist, but we just want to make sure that posts which are only there to support a particular political movement, do not overtake this community.

Rule 5 states that opinion pieces are not allowed. We will have to judge posts that get reported because of rule 5 on a case-by-case basis, and we will make sure to communicate if there’s ever a post which is ambiguous.

Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns (:

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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If it ever comes to a point where the same story get’s spammed to an annoying degree, we will communicate that we won’t accept any more of those posts.

But we probably won’t moderate before that.

We can always alter the rules later if that turns out to be a problem.

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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I will do that (:

Thank you for the suggestion.

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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Point 1 was indeed kinda a joke, but if you feel like that hurts the rule, I will remove it.

I am working on making some kind of place where we show all banned news sources which then integrates with the bot, but this might take some development time.

As stated in the rule, we will only remove posts if the title is wrong / incorrect, with that we mean that it misrepresents the article. The autobot can’t sense that you editted the post to make it better, so I just wanted to make clear that the autobot will still message you.

Thank you for the feedback (:

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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I’m working on making a list of banned sources (which everyone can read, and discuss), which can then integrate with the bot, so it will tell you that the source is not allowed.

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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I will indeed rephrase the first rule, good suggestion!

If you have a whitelist, you don’t need a blacklist, so I don’t fully understand what you mean with that. The problem with having a whitelist is that I think it’s to much work to curate each news source, and could be seen as restricting if not enough are whitelisted. That’s why we’ll probably go for a blacklist.

Yea, the bot already has some problems with that. But we’ll first ask questions, then delete, so no worries there.

Good suggestion, I’ll discuss it with the other moderators.

That catch all rule is already included in the instance rules, so that’s not really needed.

Thank you for the suggestions (:

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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We are aware, but we’re just humans, so we’ll moderate as fair as we can. I’ll be compiling a blacklist, with sources that are not accepted here, and people can let us know if they don’t agree with any of the sources on that list.

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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Both have been changed in the new rules which I will share soon. Thank you for the feedback.

Thekingoflorda OP ,
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We don’t want their to be the least amount of doubt when moderating. But I understand your point, and I’ll keep it in mind.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Itsa glitch, I’m still working on improving it. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Doesn’t chatgpt’s data only scratch till 2021? A lot has probably changed in that timeframe.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Very annoying when they change their title, I’m not sure how to fix that. Sorry for bothering you.

Thekingoflorda ,
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We will never do that, just trying to make users aware of our 4th rule, because we ourselves don’t have time to comb trough all the posts to check for titles. I will be trying to refine the bot to be less spammy.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Very cool, but please refrain from personally attacking people in this community. Thank you (:

Thekingoflorda ,
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I already deleted the message I was referring to (;

Oh, and you don’t have to @ people for them to get a notification (:

Thekingoflorda ,
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Please keep this discussion civil, per rule 1. Don’t personally attack people who don’t agree with you. Go to twitter if you want to do that.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Seems like you wanted to actually argue something, so please expand on your comment by explaining why it’s outside both science and morality, otherwise you’re not really having a discussion.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Yea, the thingy I use to scan for the title seems to malfunction with this article. Sorry 'bout that.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Easy, you need to ritually sacrifise 2 gpu’s, and promise the bot your first born son.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll add that

Thekingoflorda ,
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I’m thinking about adding a feature that automatically deletes the bot’s comment after the title is changed. But I’ll do what you suggest if I end up not doing that (:

BTW, check out the new message, lemme know if there’s anything missing.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Yea… sorry for that. I’m not completely sure how to stop the bot from commenting when the title changes.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Lawsuits are expensive, and large companies can afford the best lawyers, while the government often can’t.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Ah I see, thank you for letting me know (:

Thekingoflorda ,
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That’s not true, all countries of the world have groups / politcal parties that deny science. It’s the “easy” way, and some people prefer to believe in the easy way, instead of reasonably concluding that reality is not easy.

Thekingoflorda ,
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I really doubt that is marketing. I just think that’s an over-enthusiastic user.

Thekingoflorda ,
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It’s not even a comment, it’s an answer to an Q&A on amazon, I’m sure there are more efficient ways to advertise a browser.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Use lichess.org’s board editor

Thekingoflorda ,
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You’re on programmer humor, we don’t do “Brain” here.

Thekingoflorda ,
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Global warming just means we finally have a reason to make higher dykes, our favorite hobby.

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