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Brave's aggressive marketing

Was reading an answer to the question about fresh Amazon tablet and saw this. They used up the question as a hook to promote their browser. Pretty sure I’m avoiding Brave from now on.

Q: Does the fire max 11 have YouTube app on it. A: I have installed Google Playstore , but I skip installing Youtube app . There is better option . Brave Browser in Playstore !! That thing has AWESOME popup Blocker and it’s own integrated Youtube Ads and other Nuisances blocker . My point ? You don’t need youtube on Fire max , You don’t need Google Maps , You don’t need Facebook App . Just Use Brave .

BuboScandiacus ,

Look ! Firefox marketing ! Gotta boycott them !

BigBootyBoy ,
@BigBootyBoy@sh.itjust.works avatar

All those wonderful people are all just passionate firefox users, and you could be one too! All have have to do is get firefox! Please get firefox, it’s great! You should totally get firefox!

benpo ,

It’s important to note that Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit organization, whereas Brave Software Inc. is a company that sells products. Mozilla get money from recurrent donations, while Brave gets more money the more users use their software and services, like any other company. Which means that only Brave has interest in hiring shills. And a fucking meme posted on a niche social network is different than a fake review, ffs.

roguemetahuman ,

That is some really aggressive marketing.

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

This is not marketing. This is people trying to destroy Brave’s reputation. This kind of stuff isn’t even effective, so Brave wouldn’t do that

WhoRoger ,
@WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

Brave is a shit company, but I’d still take it over Google if those were the only two choices available. So yes even if it’s an ad… It’s not wrong.

Nilz ,

If only there were better options…

Eggyhead ,
@Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

I use Brave and Nord VPN. Am I going to die?

WrittenWeird ,

Yes, anonymously.

Ds4zkMjT ,
@Ds4zkMjT@lemmy.world avatar

Gentle reminder that Brave’s CEO is a known bigot and the browser is just chrome with a few extensions and fresh coat of paint.

buttsbuttsbutts ,

Isn’t he a Blockchain/crypto grifter as well?

Athena , (edited )

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    TALD ,

    I, an intellectual, use typescript.

    Athena ,

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    TALD ,

    Typescript is just Javascript with a few extra features sprinkled ontop such as static types instead of Javascripts dynamic, this makes it a lot easier to develop software with. It’s still very much Javascript though, and my comment was a bit of a gaff

    Kushia ,
    @Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

    You’re selling them short. They also developed some crypto shit to shoehorn into it.

    oDDmON ,

    Have to agree with others that this looks like an episode of FanboysGoneWild, but there are reasons to question, if not outright ceasing to use Brave and they center around their CEO, Brendan Eich. nytimes.com/…/brave-brendan-eich-covid-19.html

    BumpingFuglies ,

    Sure, I disagree with him regarding social issues, but how is questioning unscientific and inconsistent “health measures” and the proven liar who is their spokesperson right wing? To use the bird metaphor, is it flying upside down? Is that why things that are actually left wing (progressivism, skepticism, political accountability) called right wing and things that are actually right wing (authoritarianism, religious devotion to the state, feelings mattering more than reality) called left wing? Is it Opposite Day?

    I_hate_you_welcome ,

    “Proven liar”

    • can’t prove it
    BumpingFuglies ,

    I’m trying to avoid such negativity in my life, becoming a new, better me and all that, so I’ll just say this and exit the conversation:

    One of the very first things Fauci did in the pandemic was lie about masks. Which part of that was the lie, though: the original statement or the follow-up “admitting to the noble lie”? Which one would have made him and his friends more money and better saved face?

    I_hate_you_welcome ,

    Sure, he made a statement based on incomplete information, like scientists literally always do, as the information is never complete. Especially not when you can’t wait for results of multi-year testing because millions of people are dropping dead.

    ShellMonkey ,
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    Never quite understood the will for people to put so much reliance on the endpoint to filter things, at least if your talking about a device bot likely to leave home on any regular basis. It just makes it difficult to maintain cocnsistent results if you have to configure everything individually. A network level firewall + DNS filter of choice can cover a good amount of the problems of these type of things aim to resolve for everyone on the network, even if you don’t get into the extreme ends of things.

    Sanctus ,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    Wolves howling

    pozbo ,
    @pozbo@lemmy.world avatar

    Former brave fanboy here. This company is a fucking plague and they should be on trial for misleading their users.

    Absolute scam -severalbillion/10

    lambda ,

    I really don’t understand why people use and recommend brave. They’ve have had plenty of shady practices in the past and bundle crypto crap by default. If you want to block ads just install ublock origin on (preferably) any privacy respecting browser like firefox (or better yet librewolf), ungoogled-chromium etc

    ominouslemon ,

    They just don’t know any better. And when you tell them about Brave’s history, they just don’t listen

    Ashatmapants ,
    @Ashatmapants@lemmy.world avatar

    This is the first time I heard about this. Was using it in the past on iOS, but I’m now using an extension in safari to block ads. What exactly is wrong with Brave?

    WhoRoger ,
    @WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

    They were using crypto miners in Brave (now it’s just opt-out optional I think), altering search result’s, and also something about their CEO being a weirdo I think. And also all this dirty advertising and tactics. They’re just shady all around.

    Mubelotix ,
    @Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

    There was never a miner in Brave. Their legitimate crypto related features have always been optional. They did add referal links in some urls though

    I_hate_you_welcome ,

    There you go, and that’s why nobody should believe the commenter you replied to without him providing sources. Shame 10 people already agreed with him.

    HughJanus ,

    They were using crypto miners in Brave

    Huh? They have a crypto service that you can easily opt out of.

    altering search result’s

    …they have their own search engine they built from scratch. So yeah.

    also something about their CEO being a weirdo I think

    I love weirdos

    And also all this dirty advertising and tactic

    This is an incredibly generic complaint

    Maybe people “don’t listen” because you’re full of crap.

    vinceman ,

    Can you expand at all? I don’t have a dog in the fight.

    ominouslemon ,

    There are controversies around Brave itself and also its CEO, Brendan Eich (also inventor of JavaScript and also former Mozilla CEO).

    • Brave was altering search results by adding crypto redirects to links. Source.
    • Eich was forced to resign from Mozilla CEO because he made donations against gay marriage. Also, he basically is a covid conspiracy theorist. Source

    You might not care about a company’s CEO behavior, as long as they do a good job. I usually do not. In this case, I can’t help but feel that the whole project is kinda shady.

    interesting_bat ,

    Regarding the covid stuff, hasn’t he been proven right?

    Masks have been determined to be minimally effective against covid (barring N95 I believe) and Fauci has been proven to be dishonest as shown in the leaks surrounding gain of function research in Wuhan. It’s effectively been proven the U.S. knew about the research, was funding(?) the research and in essence is at least partially responsible for the outbreak under Fauci’s watch. They attempted to downplay the actual origins of Covid-19 due to this association.

    ominouslemon ,

    I reeeeeaally don’t want to go into that, but no: masks have been proven to be effective, if worn correctly, even non-n95 ones. It’s not a mystery that, if something is in the way of your spit, you’re not going to infect as many people. As for the whole outbreak origin debate, scientists went back and forth between the “wet market” theory and the “lab escape” theory. The last research I’ve seen was pretty confident in the “wet market” theory. No Fauci involved there.

    interesting_bat ,

    Disappointing that false information will propagate here, just like on Reddit: washingtonpost.com/…/cochrane-study-masks-covid-p…

    www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/…/full

    Review “the science”.

    It’s not a mystery that, if something is in the way of your spit, you’re not going to infect as many people.

    The virus is so much smaller than whatever material you’re putting over your mouth that it hardly seems to matter at all. This “seems logical” but isn’t if you actually think about it.

    As for the Fauci gain of function link: theintercept.com/…/covid-origins-gain-of-function…It’s less clear cut than I had previously though. It looks suspicious, but there isn’t certainty.

    Galluf ,

    It’s more that do far I haven’t seen anything wrong with the browser itself.

    e569668 ,
    @e569668@fedia.io avatar

    Firefox runs really poorly for twitch and youtube videos for me in linux; mainly in CPU. Brave will use maybe 10-20% of my cpu for a single twitch stream whereas firefox uses about 80%. I use firefox for all my browsing, but for videos it just doesn't seem to work well... Perhaps a different chromium browser would be better as you say.

    Giooschi ,

    Sounds like your Firefox is not using hardware acceleration for displaying videos. It does support it, but whether it will be enabled on Linux depends on a bunch of factors (distro/packages installed, cpu/gpu vendor/drivers, some weird settings etc etc)

    latinodestinyqqa ,

    Honestly? Firefox on android sucks and unless you’re getting a fork like Mull on f-droid, the default Firefox on on the Playstore is really bad for privacy too. Brave just covers all the bases on Android and there isn’t much to complain about.

    lambda , (edited )

    I’ve been using using firefox and more recently fennec and mull on android for years now and I’ve never had a problem with it. Why do you think it sucks? Just the fact that you can install extensions on firefox (or fennec or mull) makes it by far the best browser in my opinion. I do agree that firefox by default has some privacy issues but there’s no way it’s worse than chrome which almost everyone uses, and as you said you can just use a fork like mull for best privacy.

    Ultra980 ,

    you can also install extensions on kiwi browser

    phx ,

    Yeah I tried it on mobile and it peppered me with requests/pop-ups to get their paid services… Install didn’t last long

    WhoRoger ,
    @WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

    The situation on mobile is dire. Bromite and Ungoogled-Chromium are dead, and mobile Firefox is slow crap that Mozilla doesn’t give two fucks about. I’m grinding my teeth using IceRaven and Mulch, but I’m not surprised those with less patience would use an all-in-one solution.

    aman25ta ,

    Mobile firefox on ios has been way better than almost everything else, atleast compared to like brave and chrome etc

    Maybe its being neglected on android? Im on the latest version and ios 17 dev beta

    WhoRoger , (edited )
    @WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

    On iOS, FF is using Safari core so there shouldn’t be any speed difference, and maybe they can concentrate on UI stuff.

    Or maybe you’re not looking for stuff I want that used to be in FF but were removed - like bookmarks export/import. That’s just criminal that it was axed in favor of their fIrEFoX AcCunT

    aman25ta ,

    Yeah which is why I didn’t mention safari, just others like chrome where i could feel it at times, difference in Ui or something like that maybe? It was a long time ago though

    JackbyDev ,

    The only thing I wish I had on Firefox is tab groups. That’s it. It’s totally fine otherwise.

    (Don’t suggest me an extension. I’ve tried them. They suck. This isn’t a deal breaker for me. I use Firefox.)

    aman25ta ,

    Huh

    Ive never really used tab groups so they arent really a problem for me, might try them out someday though

    Nioxic ,

    I have had compatibility issues with firefox

    Somepages straight up dont work

    Mubelotix ,
    @Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

    Dev tools are broken on my side. Nothing displays in that panel

    kabe ,
    @kabe@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean, there are plenty of reasons not to use Brave but this poorly-written, obviously-not-a-paid-review doesn’t really rank up there.

    dandroid ,

    Is this post paid marketing for Brave browser?

    InFerNo ,

    People realising apps are just websites in wrappers.

    Vele apps hebben geen bestaansrecht, maar op een bepaald moment in het verleden zijn ontwikkelaars hun websites toch als apps gaan beginnen verpakken.

    NabeGewell ,
    @NabeGewell@lemmy.world avatar

    It replaces Facebook AND has integrated youtube ads? I’m there

    PlatinumSf ,

    I don’t know what marketing campaign you think is going to tell a normal non-tech literate user to install not only a third party app store which they’d have to sideload through a complicated process, but also do so in the reviews section for a random product instead of just paying the 1/10th of a cent it takes to run an ad somewhere relevant. This post is legitimately so poorly thought out it frustrates me. Go get yourself evaluated for anxiety if you feel this distrustful of the world, my word it’s insane.

    frequency OP ,
    @frequency@lemmy.world avatar

    Your claim about OP’s insanity has been accepted and will be reviewed in 5 to 10 business days. Stand by.

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