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JingJang ,

Thank you for the simplified explanation and for giving me the mental Image of Rudy Giuliani as a minion. (I can even hear him babbling in minionease…)

JingJang ,

Lots of meta-level comments here so I’ll add one that’s more in the weeds:

In an office job, it’s always good to be friendly with IT and the office manager/administrative assistant.

Joe Biden’s DOJ Is Claiming “There Is No Constitutional Right to a Stable Climate” (jacobin.com)

In the same week large swaths of the US were under extreme heat warnings, Joe Biden’s Justice Department filed its most recent motion to dismiss a landmark climate case by arguing that nothing in the Constitution guarantees the right to a secure climate.

JingJang ,

Thanks.

I was going to say, that it’s not an environmental document and climate science was barely a thing when it was written. (meteorology was but not climate science as we know it).

JingJang ,

I prefer a higher priced vehicle with better gas mileage so I save money over the long term while being slightly easier on the environment.

JingJang ,

I’m on your side and went to that link.

Unfortunately, the person you are debating is correct. Anheuser-Busch’s stock fell over 20% after the boycott began and while it’s come up a little since the initial fall it’s still no where near where it was prior to the boycott in April.

That said, that might be the ONLY example of this slogan being accurate (at least right now).

Amazon saved children's voices recorded by Alexa even after parents asked for it to be deleted. Now it's paying a $25 million fine. (www.businessinsider.com)

Amazon saved children’s voices recorded by Alexa even after parents asked for it to be deleted. Now it’s paying a $25 million fine.::“For too long, Amazon has treated children’s sensitive data as its own property,” Josh Golin, executive director of Fairplay, said in a statement.

JingJang ,

This isn’t a “fine” to Amazon. 25 million dollars is just the cost of business.

Make this 250 or 500 million and then… Maybe… it’s a fine.

JingJang ,

Agreed.

I only mentioned my range because then perhaps it would move to a different column in their budget.

25 million is nothing to Amazon.

A couple of billion might move it into an enterily new spreadsheet and maybe even precipitate a meeting to figure out who needs to be fired. Maybe.

JingJang ,

That’s not how laws work.

If you break the law, you deal with the consequences.

It’s not a “game system” where additional infractions lead to multipliers of consequences.

Child labor laws exist because we saw what happened in the past when they did not exist. We, as a society, care about our children enough to protect them. That includes preventing them, by law, from working in industrial environments.

Some states seem inclined to repeat the past by repealing or loosening child labor laws… .

Now another child is dead as a result.

JingJang ,

Fair enough, good reply.

Upvoted :)

(Maybe Lemmy will bring back some good discussions in threads like these…)

I think the public gets fatigued when we hear about the profits these companies make and then we see these comparatively small fines.

If this is how we “steer the vessel of regulation” then I can accept that this is a push in a better direction.

However, I still feel that a fine in the hundreds of millions, ( not bankrupting but a “shot in the leg” versus a “slap on the wrist”), is appropriate for these very large corporations. They already weild so much political and economic power that consequences for things like this should be higher.

In other words, let’s encourage them to operate responsibly in the first place.

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