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I don’t think they ever will be completely obsolete, the paradigm will probably just shift away from big formations of big boats with big guns to smaller more maneuverable boats in smaller groups more specialized on long distance strike capabilities using drones and missiles.

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Unfortunately and scarily, Russia is showing much of the same pattern as Germany in its most dark past, with the ruski mir looking more and more like the german lebensraum.

When you totally know what the lebensraum was.

The Nazis’ lebensraum project wasn’t just taking over a bunch of land in Europe, it was a settler colonial project inspired by the American policies of systematic forced displacement and extermination of the native populations under the doctrine manifest destiny.

Lebensraum was a pseudo-scientific racist theory formulated by pro-colonialism far right German thinkers, according to the lebensraum theory, a race needs a certain amount of space for themselves in order to attain their full potential and therefore need to take their necessary territory from “lesser” races by force. To summarise rapidly how it was developed, the German colonialists basically went “Look at America, they expanded to the west basically exterminating every native population in the way and replacing they with white settlers and now they’re super rich and powerful, so if we exterminate a bunch of native populations, take over their land and put native Germans in their place, we should become super rich and powerful too”.

The idea was put into practice in Namibia, then one of the German empire’s colonies, resulting in the genocide of the Herero and Nama.

Fast forward a bit, Adolph Hitler was visited in prison by one of the main colonialist thinkers behind lebensraum theory and Hitler was rapidly convinced to adopt it.

And that’s how was born the genocidal project of the Nazis in eastern Europe, just as their mentor the United States had rid “their” land of “lesser” north Americans natives to expand westward and make way for the “superior” whites, so would Germany rid eastern Europe of Jews and Slavs to make way for the “Aryans”.

Now comes the question: is Russia doing any of that? Does the Russian government believe in and promote a theory that rank races to justify the extermination of “lesser” ones? Is Russia shoving Ukrainians (or anyone else) in concentration camps and “reservation”? Do they steal Ukrainians houses and invite Russian natives to go live in the stolen houses in Ukraine?

The answer to all of those questions is no. If you think it’s yes you need to demonstrate it, saying “they look just like Nazis” without drawing any actual parallels between them is no better than saying “anyone I don’t like is a Nazi”.

The fact that all of russia’s puppet state demanded to join NATO (BTW: you cannot be invited it only works by writing an official demand to join and approval by all member state), is a revealing fact.

If a NATO country can somehow influence the elections and public opinion on NATO in those so called “Russian puppets”, which they very much can, they can make sure to have pro-NATO politicians in power who will demand a NATO membership, that way they effectively force the country to join while making it look like it was voluntary.

As we saw in Ukraine, Russia does not need any reason to invade a sovereign nation (their reason for invading looking also stangely like german justification for poland invasion)

“Russia does not need any reason to invade[…] their reason for invading looking also stangely like…”

Look, if you’re gonna spew bullshit, can’t you at least keep it strait and somewhat coherent?

Putin didn’t just wake up and decide he was feeling like invading something that day, whether you like it or not they had actual reasons to do it and the fact that you or I may or may not think those reasons are not legitimate does not matter since neither you nor I have a say in the Kremlin.

Also, once again you say “they look like Nazis” without showing why you think they look like Nazis. How are their reasons similar? Russia’s stated reasons for invading are to prevent all of their western frontier neighbors to become part of a military alliance they deem aggressive to them and to stop the killing of ethnic Russians in the Donbas and Luhansk regions and overthrow the current far right government of Ukraine, how is that similar to the Nazi’s excuses to invade Poland?

The countless horrors of torture, rape, murder and brainwashing by the russian state, seems to prove their reasoning right.

[citation needed]

That wouldn’t be the first time the west has falsely accused an enemy of those things so I’m really gonna need a source for that.

I do not claim that the west is perfect, with the actions of the united states and other in recent times, but claiming that russia or china have clean hands would be outright hypocritical.

You claim that the west is systematically better than Russia, China and other countries that the west considers rivals or enemy (funny coincidence that those are all countries the west don’t like isn’t it) and when we demonstrate to you that this is bullshit since the west has literally done almost every single thing you accuse China, Russia, etc of, often in worst and more than once, you go “Ha but I think the west is bad too” so that you can continue pretending to be objective even after we expose you massive pro-west bias.

Thanks to the free press, the western world made their population aware of this wrong actions and helped steer them in the right direction.

The press in the west is not free, it’s the private property of a handful of billionaires who, since they are their private properties, have complete control over what is or is not published in their outlets. I’d even say that given that the capitalists are the ruling class in the west, privately owned medias are really state owned medias with extra steps.

Not to mention the fact that western outlet are often in contact with organs of western governments, most notoriously with the CIA, who often dictate what the outlets should publish.

Just look at how they report on the genocide of Palestinians, does that look like fair and unbiased reporting to you? Those that look free pro Israel bias?

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That makes sense

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Yellen made a point of shouting out Deng Xiaoping’s 1992 visit to manufacturing and export powerhouse Guangzhou. It marked a key milestone in China’s progress in becoming a market economy, one that Yellen hopes the Xi era will emulate by leveling playing fields for Western companies.

Liberals can’t see beyond what’s right in front of them as usual, without doing the smallest amount of investigations into Deng’s reasoning for the market reforms she is preaching him as a liberal icon to peoples who know the actual reason why Deng did what he did. Having markets and bourgeois on a leash to develop the forces of production is pretty basic stuff and it’s easy to find that it’s what Deng wanted to do, but instead of looking into why on earth the chairman of a communist party would implement market reforms they saw that China’s market was open to foreign markets and concluded that Deng was a liberal without any further investigations.

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This is “we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong” 's evil twin “we investigated these peoples we don’t like and found they did everything wrong”

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No, clearly you don’t understand what they meant, nor how Cuba’s political system works. Please educate yourself before confidently calling dictatorship a country who’s political system you couldn’t explain the most basics of.

Here are videos to help you:

We Asked Cuban Voters If They Live In A Democracy Or Dictatorship. Here’s How They Responded.

how democracy works in Cuba

Also, please learn what a class is.

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Well I’m not going to travel to Cuba for the sake of an internet discussion

You don’t need to, it’s very easy to find documentation on the subject for free online if you are just willing to actually learn about it.

But it is true that political opposition is forbidden and the only allowed party is the communist, right?

No it’s not, not only are other parties and independent candidates allowed, but the communist party isn’t allowed to present their candidates to the elections because candidates to the elections are not nominated by their party but by the peoples of their community, the communist party do end up having their members picked for the elections because the party is overwhelmingly popular but there is nothing to guaranty that any of them will get in.

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Sorry but Scandinavian countries were still capitalist and still had a bourgeois class even before the neoliberals came around.

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Different opinions can be voiced in the party itself, democratic centralism is summarized as “diversity in opinions, unity in actions” ideas can be freely discussed, debated, voted, compromised on, etc but once the party reach a democratic consensus the party as a whole must go through with the decision unless the party as a whole change it’s mind democratically.

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You do realize that kind of sanctions affect the poor civilians far more than the elite, if it even affect the elite at all, right?

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But in the 60’s it was on its way to eradicate the bourgeoisie and lift the under class in its entirety?

No, it was just a welfare state back then too, they just had more concessions at the time because there was the Soviet Unions just next door with guarantied employment, free healthcare and housing, etc, and were getting so riled up over it that the bourgeoisie was getting really scared of potentially having a revolution and decided that temporarily giving these concessions was better than loosing everything.

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Hard to tell how popular the government is if you get jailed for voicing disagreement now isn’t it?

[citation needed]

What I’ve seen about the demand for the sanctions to be lifted it’s granting the population human rights regarding political freedoms. Would that mean the dissolvement of the government?

You’ve been given a link to a declassified CIA document in which they admit that the true objective of the sanctions is to have the Cuben government overthrown, did you read anything any of us have given you?

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Liberals once again demonstrating their inability to conceive of any kind of political action outside of voting and telling other peoples to go vote.

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They sure are shuffling government officials a lot these days.

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Ha, yes. I’m sure that will work out this time.

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“The peoples who disagree with me aren’t real akshually sweaty, it’s all a conspiracy from [insert whatever person/country lib decided to hate this week].” https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/456499ed-8a45-4f2f-85eb-0f6af085ca14.png

Isn’t you radlib’s whole shtick that you’re supposedly better than the MAGA Qanon crowd in every ways? If so you should at least try to pretend to have better arguments than them lol. This is legitimately pathetic.

The fact that you dogged the question with a thought terminating cliché instead of elaborating as was asked of you is a perfect illustration of the fact that the only troll here is you, and that you are nothing but a sad clown with no actual arguments 🤡

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Washington’s protectionism

More like Washington’s begging daddy bourgeois to please stop exporting all the industry to the third world and exporting back home cheap goods.

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France become the first country to explicitly include the right to terminate a pregnancy in its constitution.

No, Yugoslavia did it in the 70s.

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Not anymore but it was until the 90s

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Y’all keep saying that but I have yet to see any of you point any actual material difference between Trump’s presidency vs during Biden’s presidency.

What changed after the transition from Trump to Biden except rhetoric? As far as I know, oppressed minorities kept having their rights taken away 1 by 1 the same as before, police kept being over funded the same as before, migrants from the southern border kept being detained in literal concentration camps at the border the same as before, things kept getting more financially difficult for the average American every day the same as before, big polluter corporations kept polluting without consequences the same as before, the military budget kept getting ramped up every year the same as before, what is different in the real world outside the clown-show that is your political system? Where the fuck does that “not good but definitely better” goes when you stop going by the words of these known serial liars for to seconds and take a peak at what as changed in the actual lives of the American people?

The only difference I see is that the Republicans is taking an active approach and pass laws directly whereas the Democrats is more passive and like to let the Republicans and other far right parties pass laws while standing there awkwardly and pretending they can do nothing about it.

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lemmygrad users: use a standard lemmy features that literally every user has access to

deranged lib user: “this is clearly a conspiracy to take over the world site”

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Y’all are… tiring… I’m just gonna copypaste my answer to an other comment of the same thread:

Y’all keep saying that but I have yet to see any of you point any actual material difference between Trump’s presidency vs during Biden’s presidency.

What changed after the transition from Trump to Biden except rhetoric? As far as I know, oppressed minorities kept having their rights taken away 1 by 1 the same as before, police kept being over funded the same as before, migrants from the southern border kept being detained in literal concentration camps at the border the same as before, things kept getting more financially difficult for the average American every day the same as before, big polluter corporations kept polluting without consequences the same as before, the military budget kept getting ramped up every year the same as before, what is different in the real world outside the clown-show that is your political system? Where the fuck does that “not good but definitely better” goes when you stop going by the words of these known serial liars for to seconds and take a peak at what as changed in the actual lives of the American people?

The only difference I see is that the Republicans is taking an active approach and pass laws directly whereas the Democrats is more passive and like to let the Republicans and other far right parties pass laws while standing there awkwardly and pretending they can do nothing about it.

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Only after the Nazi’s ally attacked the US first prompting Germany to declare war on the US.

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https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/9e1d38f0-6497-4ce6-9a88-1bc689a31354.pngSame peoples who laugth at MAGA peoples for their deep state conspiracy theory. No self awareness.

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This take is both idealistic and ignorant of the situation on the ground.

It’s clear to anyone paying attention that Ukraine has lost any shot they had at driving Russia out in 2023, assuming they even had any shot at it in the first place. As shown by the evolution of the front line in 2023, Russia is now deeply entrenched in it’s current position and Ukraine, even back when Western military support was at it’s maximum, is unable to make them move from them in any significant way. Meanwhile Russia has had the time to adapt to western sanctions and the economy not only stabilized but is even growing quite a lot, especially the arms industry.

You need to come to terms with the fact that Ukraine won’t be getting back the occupied territory. With Russia now largely outproducing the west on military equipment and the west having pretty much depleted their stockpile, Ukraine, who is largely dependent to western military aid as their own military industrial base is far from solid, will unravel sooner rather than later. The ONLY thing sending them weapons is doing right now is prolonging the war and getting more Ukrainian killed for literally nothing.

Getting more thousands of Ukrainian killed because of the delusion that they can somehow still drive Russia out at this point is not worth whatever territory they want to get back.

Continuing to send billions of dollars of weapons to them won’t do any good to the Ukrainian peoples, and you aren’t the saviour of Ukraine you think you are by cheering for this.

What would do good for the Ukrainian people is suing for peace and starting to rebuild whatever territory they have left.

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Literally the same thought terminating logic fucking flatearthers use.

“I have literally have no counter argument so instead considering what you said I will gaslight myself and others into thinking I don’t have to by declaring out loud, without any evidence, that you are paid by NASA/Russia and imply that therefore everything you say can be dismissed without paying any mind because it is ontologically dishonest.”

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A pretty fair point but I still think you are neglecting a few things.

Firstly, while according to this study by the Kiev international institute of sociology most Ukrainians do still support the war it also indicate that the portion that peace at the cost of losing territory is definitely growing since the start of 2023, if I were to try giving admittedly loose and uncertain bound based on those numbers and assuming the rate of change don’t shrink, I would expect this portion to reach 50% of the population 2 months from now at the soonest, 11 months from now at the latest.

An other related thing to consider is how accurately is the state of the war depicted in Ukrainian media? A state at war that don’t plan to surrender has incentives to make their war effort as good as possible and the enemy’s war effort as bad as possible and Ukraine is obviously no exception.

Depending on how distorted the narrative about the war is, these figures could be drastically different from what they would be if the Ukrainian public got a more neutral account of the war.

So do the Ukrainian want to continue fighting? For now yes, but I don’t believe it will last.

Your leverage point is moot in my opinion.

As I said, it is a fact that Russia is winning the war and that Ukraine has decisively failed to push them back before the Russian entrenchment in their position and the dwindling military supply to Ukraine made doing so impossible going forward.

I’m not saying that Russia could just roll over to Kiev any day if they wanted, that would obviously be absurd, but the military situation in Ukraine, the state of western weapon manufacturing compared to Russia’s and the sheer difference in manpower reserve and moral make it such that even if the west threw every last weapon in their stockpile at Ukraine, it would not change significantly what a peace deal between Moscow and Kiev could look like. I repeat therefor once again that the ONLY thing continuing to supply Ukraine with weapons is increasing the death toll on both side and prolonging the was for nothing, it’s literally not doing anything more, let alone helping Ukraine in any tangible way.

You are right, though, that most of the aid to Ukraine is humanitarian and not military, and those absolutely should continue, but that’s one reason more to not prolong the war uselessly, the end of the war would make helping the Ukrainian people way easier and would allow Ukraine to start rebuilding.

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If arming Ukraine does not substantially impact Ukraine’s ability to fight, how does it prolong the war?

This is not exactly what I said. I didn’t say that it didn’t impact Ukraine’s ability to fight, I said it doesn’t change the outcome of the war.

Of course, arming Ukraine adds difficulty for Russia, but it only at most delay Russia getting what they want since because of the way the war is going and the west’s inability to outproduce Russia, Russia has time on their side. Russia can largely afford to just wait until western weapon supply to Ukraine can’t keep up with theirs anymore, which is exactly what they have been doing since their retreat from the siege of Kiev in 2022, that’s why the front line has barely moved since then, Russia know they are in a position where time will do most of the work for them.

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He just fired him outright without any kind of precautions? Do Zelensky not realize the situation he’s in? Unless Syrsky can quickly win a large enough support in the military that decision has the potential to badly backfire for Zelensky. With more support than Zelensky among both the civilians and the soldiers, Zaluzhny is in an ideal position to pull a coup or at least some kind of mutiny.

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In a move that surprise no one, Ukraine blamed Russia for the downing of a Russian plane shot by the Ukrainian military.

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Liberals: lol, the republicans are so dumb with their conspiracy theory about evil woke deep state controlling everything behind the scenes.

Also liberals: The evil russian deep state control everything behind the scenes and everyone who says otherwise is a Russian bot!!

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I remember how r/Ukraine was obsessed by this. There was that boycot list of companies that were still operating in Russia that kept being reposted over and over again. I don’t know how they’re doing these days but I wouldn’t bet that they are still doing this.

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Peoples who are interested in globel geoplolitics care. The fucking UN of all things sudently opening a Russian account to deal in roubles is not an insignificant move, it undelign just how significant the ongoing shift in the currency makeup of international trade is and show that international organisations are staring to realize that they can’t continue to deal exclusively in dollars forever.

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I did read it and even re-read it after reading your comment and I have to say that I don’t see how the article contradict what I said.

It’s possible I misundersood (not a native english speaker), so please tell me where you think I’m wrong.

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I see

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Twenty-seven people were killed and 25 injured when Ukrainian forces shelled the Russian-controlled city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine

In his nightly video address, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy did not address the attack but said that in a single day, Russia had shelled more than 100 cities, towns and villages in nine regions in Ukraine, and that the attacks in Donetsk region had been “particularly severe.”

Deflecting blame. Now this is an instance where saying whataboutism would be somewhat warranted. whatabout deez

Ukraine’s forces in the Tavria, or southern zone, said in a Facebook post that soldiers under its command were not responsible. “Donetsk is Ukraine!” it said. “Russia will have to answer for taking lives of Ukrainians.”

Russia is responsible for every death in the war, even when these deaths are caused by concious actions by the Ukrainian military. https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/f63e3693-5f1d-4e18-a579-7468bb8bd85d.pngGhoulish. Ukrainian higher-ups have no souls.

Russia, which launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine almost two years ago, has voiced outrage in the past when Ukrainian attacks have killed civilians in Donetsk and other areas. Russia’s own campaign of air strikes and heavy shelling, however, has killed thousands of Ukrainian civilians.

“Ok, Ukraine is striking civilians but don’t you know that Russia has struck civilians too?” https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/6c30af1b-2965-4c52-abb4-7bb11cffa326.png

Isn’t Ukraine supposed to be the good guys? https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/b1ea644b-425a-4f00-bef6-46cc7d2f0512.png A western outlet pointing at bad things Russia has done and going “since they do it Ukraine is allowed to do the same” is so on the nose it would be considered bad parody if it was.

The governor of the Ukrainian-controlled part of the region, Vadym Filashkin, said Russian attacks killed at least two people at two locations west of the city of Donetsk on Sunday.

Not to minimise deaths but, “only” 2?

Twenty-seven people were killed and 25 injured when Ukrainian forces shelled the Russian-controlled city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine

The fact that these peoples who like to smugly point at big numbers without verifying them to justify their position couldn’t come up with more shocking that 2 death to “counter” the 27 killed by Ukraine says a lot about who is targeting what, as is the fact that not only is Ukraine striking the very civilians they say they want to “liberate” from Russia, but it and it’s cohort of mediatic supporters are openly admiting that they are doing it. And, of course, pointing at civilian deaths to justify more civilian deaths is already ghoulish in and of itself.

Again, it’s a western outlet, Ukraine is supposed the good guys. Too on the nose to be parody I tell you.

“I call on everyone who remains in Donetsk: evacuate!” Filashkin said in a post on the Telegram messaging app.

Perfomatively tells peoples to evacuate, not even in a speach or on tv but on Telegram where most peoples won’t see it, so they can say “well, we warned them” when they start shelling just like Israel idf destroyer. The fact that a pro-Ukraine western outlet admits that is quite the self own. Again, Ukraine, good guys, beyond parody.

Overall, still a lot of cope fascist coping capitalist coping niet nyet , but the narrative has definitely shifted. We’ll see what will come of it.

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They shoud limit the deathtoll by suing for peace instead of continuing to send peoples dying in a war they can’t win. How is it such a hot take to you that humman lives are more important than imaginary lines on a map?

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This is pure wishfull thinking. It doesn’t matter what you or I want or would like to happen, a country that is decisively winning a war wont just stop and go home before having secured a peace deal from the other side. This idea that Russia could simply leave is not realistic. Russia would suffer a net loss if they withdrew for no reason like this, and the Russian politicians obviously wont chose that when they already realized most of their military objectives. Ukraine on the other hand has litteraly no reason to keep fighting. It can’t be overstated: they are losing. Dispite all of the military aid from the US and EU and all the economic sanctions on Russia, the frontline has bearly moved since the strikes on Kiev; even being so generous that you ignore the fact that Russia hasn’t commited nearly has much to the war as Ukraine did proportionally, the situation could only be described at best as a standstill. Now, after almost two years of war, Russia has successfully wiggled out of western sanctions, now selling/buying to India and China most of what they used to sell/buy to Europe, Western aid to Ukraine have dwindled hard, with the US’s contribution, Ukraine’s biggest supplier until recently, being now a pitifull fraction of what it was in 2022. Not to mention that multiple western countries have admited that they ran out of things to send to Ukraine and are starting to shift their attention away from it anyway with the Israel stuation. With all of that and the failure of the 2023 counteroffencive Ukraine definitely lost any chance of winning the war.

At this point, all Ukraine is doing by continuing to send soldiers to the meatgrinder is increasing the deathtoll for nothing. The war will end with Russia taking The Donbass, Luhansk, and possibly the whole coast, regardless of how many zeros the Ukrainian deathtoll has. The only REALISTIC thing that can put an end to the war is a peace deal on Russia’s terms. Now matter how much you say that “Russia could just stop”, that’s not happening.

It’s also importent to be aware that there would never have been a war in the first place without western meddleing. As soon as the maidan coup happened the region was doomed for conflict, the west stirred up conflict on purpose with the hope of weakening Russia without them having to fight directly. Russia tried to propose deals with Ukraine that would only impose them to stay neutral and not get involved with NATO, Ukraine often showed iterest in signing, but every time, some western politician flew to where the talks were happening and for some reason Ukraine changed their mind just after. Pretending that only Russia is at fault is ignorant of the geopolitical situation in the region, as expected from westerners who probably didn’t even know Ukraine existed before 2022.

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Finaly a non communist aware that the war started for actual geopolitical reasons and not just because Putin is evil. That’s a rare sight around here.

Don’t mind the tankie calling to much, it has become a miningless term radlibs call litteraly anyone they disagree with, just like how right winger call everyone they disagree with “woke” or “SJW”. I’ve seen some of these clowns call anarchists and even right wingers tankies, no joke.

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Nice to hear friend. You’re welcome on our evil tankie lair anytime stalin heart handshttps://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/259889dd-13bc-4e5d-956d-1cf1c4eeb773.png .

And, yeah, although there is your occasional resonable folks like yourself .world especialy and lemmy.ml to a somewhat lesser extent are very full of “scratched liberals” as the saying goes.

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Ah yes, even if there are no evidences it must have happened because there is some law of physics that there can’t be war without mass rape I guess.

Also, we’re not just talking about one or two soldiers but of an alledged mass rape which I repeat, there is no evidence for.

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How much genocide does a party need to perpetrate/support before you guys stop supporting them?

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For real.

If Hitler came back to life, made a new party and went “we only want to kill jews unlike that other party who want to kill jews AND arabs” liberals would support him smh.

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true

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Fellas, what does having military bases in a territory have to do with control over it https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/38131950-312f-42fb-82e7-1cfe7cfb233c.png ?

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