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I can’t believe they are actually real…

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It’s literally there at the bottom.

What isn’t valid is MacOS, it’s macOS now.

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Reject MB, embrace MiB.

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If you’re not aware, it was called MB because of JEDEC when IEC units weren’t invented. IEC units were introduced because they remove the double meaning of JEDEC units — decimal and binary. IEC units only carry the binary meaning, hence why they’re superior. If you convert 1000 kB to 1 MB then use MB, but in case of 1024 KiB to 1 MiB you should be using MiB. It’s all about getting the point across, and JEDEC units aren’t good at it.

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You poor innocent soul… I can try to explain why decimal is even mentioned, but it would probably take a lot of time, and I’m not sure if I will be able to clarify things up.

I can at least say this: 2 TB HDD drive is indeed 2*10^12 B, but suddenly shindow$ in its File Explorer will show you that in fact the drive is only 1.82 TB. But WHY? Everyone asks, feeling scammed. Because HDD spec uses decimal units (SI; MB) and Window$ uses binary units (JEDEC; MB), i.e., 1.82 TiB (IEC; MiB). And macOS also uses JEDEC units, AFAIK.

More and more FOSS software uses IEC units and KDE Plasma is a good example: file manager, package manager etc. uses IEC units. Simply put, JEDEC added the binary meaning to decimal units, so at first MB (and now) only carried decimal meaning (until JEDEC shit out their standard). And the only reason why “gibibyte” is ridiculous, is because we all grew up with JEDEC interpretation of SI units. So it will take many generations for everyone to adapt xxbityte words into daily conversations. I’m (already) doing my part. It’s just the legacy that we have to deal with.

All international bodies (BIPM, NIST, EU) agree that the SI prefixes “refer strictly to powers of 10” and that the binary definitions “should not be used” for them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix#IEC_1999_Stan…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix#Other_standar…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JEDEC_memory_standards#JEDE…

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Windows and MacOS use the abbriviation “MB” referring to the binary units, correct?

Yez. I’m only sure about the first one, but didn’t test myself whether the macOS is using power of 2 or 10 under the hood (of MB). You can open properties of something big and try converting raw number of bytes with /1024^n and /1000^n and compare the end results.

How come that these big OS’s use another unit than these large international bodies recognize?

Legacy, legacy everywhere (IMO). And of course they don’t want to confuse their precious users that don’t know any better. And this also would break some scripts that rely on that specific output. GNU C library also uses JEDEC units by default, hence flatpak and other software.

On a side note, I’ve always found it weird why HDDs or SSDs are/were sold with 128GB, 265GB, 512GB etc. when they are referring to decimal units.

It is weird for everyone, because we mainly only count with multiples of 2 when it comes to digital size of information. I didn’t investigate why they use power of 10, but I’ve seen that some other hardware also uses decimal units (I think at least in RAM, but JEDEC is used intentionally or not for CPU cache memory). I had a link where the RAM thingy is lightly addressed, but I couldn’t find it.

spoilerP.S. it’s “OSes” and “macOS” BTW.

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Ok, show me what I did wrong and what should I do instead to not be a prick, please.

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What is bad about it? It wasn’t an offensive statement, it was stating the fact that that the person was new to the whole “MB vs. MiB” mega story that is an ongoing issue for at least over 10 years, and that I envy/pity the “cruel world that they are in” (where everyone uses JEDEC units while IEC ones should be used instead).

If that is the only reason why you’re starting calling names other people and downvoting all of their comments then you’re overreacting. The person I talked with didn’t even mention it. I heard this phrase from some movie or something.

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The last part was wrapped in a spoiler and under the post scriptum clause to indicate that it’s not important and that you should really see it if you don’t want to. And I added that just to educate a bit more, since I already started the " this is wrong and this is right" conversation. To be honest, I hate that that OS had so many naming changes that everyone is just left confused in the end. Some still say OS X or whatever else.

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VLC is not script-frendly. mpv is the goat. You can even watch videos from YouTube and maybe from somewhere else.

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Well yeah, but it’s not a calligraphy, it’s just bad writing (and cursed word).

Andrew15_5 ,
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Why would you use э for e?

Andrew15_5 ,
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I would’ve translated it letter by letter (because it’s meaningless password), so it would’ve been е instead of э.

Andrew15_5 ,
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You barely can control cursor with your brain, it is impossible for the chip to control what you see. Maybe in a century…

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It’s been several centuries and yet the brain is still a big mystery for the humanity. I don’t think 2 decades would be enough. I’m not saying that I’m against cool technologies, but such a progress is hard to imagine being done so “soon”.

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Just feels unimaginable. But it’s interesting to see what the future will bring us.

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Them who? I ain’t trusting nobody.

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Lucky you! I have to use it, because that’s like the only platform where you can do a lot of stuff. But almost everything is implemented in a shitty way and I hate it. I wish Matrix (or Spacebar) became better and everyone started using them instead.

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There is a $[]?

Andrew15_5 ,
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It is? Weird. I know about deprecated backticks, but this… I guess it’s so deprecated that very few people know about this. Now a bit more.

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Akchooly, what you’re referring to as terabyte (TB) is called tebibyte (TiB), because window$ suck and JADEC made everyone believe that binary units are metric units, which is stupid. But we have the savior IEC which KDE is using in all of their software and I respect that.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix

Andrew15_5 ,
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I literally did the same thing once. But I did it under an hour, if not under 10 minutes, because there is no autocompletion for mpv in Lua.

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It’s surprising how few people can afford those machines. /s

mememamus , to memes
Andrew15_5 ,
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Is it real gold?

Andrew15_5 ,
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More like “it’s your choice”.

Andrew15_5 ,
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We already have them, they called Windows XP and 7.

Although this is an issue, but it’s pretty safe to say that “it’s their fault”. Also Pop!_OS has the annoying for me pop-up once in a while that tells me that there are updates available. With this users probably will still update sometimes.

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I’m thankful that you’ve said “some Russians”.

Andrew15_5 ,
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задник is so hilarious from the perspective of Russian. xD

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Why the question mark?

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I can’t think of anything close. The only thing I got is “rear…something” and “back…something”. I don’t think it’s even a real word in Russian, but it does sound like one, and that’s why it’s funny (and it also describes ass).

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Average Windows user.

BTW, IEC units are superior and accepted unlike the SI units, so the correct usage is “2.5 GiB”.

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The FOSS to the rescue.

Andrew15_5 ,
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I have probably triggered all the Windows users.

They hated him, because he was telling the truth.

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*non-windows-fans /s

(I hate C# and I hate .Net)

Andrew15_5 ,
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Wait, is this really possible? With Steam you still will be able to access TOPT in the mobile app if you need to log in the same app, at least that’s how it worked.

I mean, there are probably one time passwords that go with some of accounts when using F2A. But I don’t care about Microsoft account either way.

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Imagine having Windows installed in 2024. /s

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