It’s actually because they do know things in a way that’s analogous to how people know things.
Let’s say you wanted to forget that cats exist. You’d have to forget every cat meme you’ve ever seen, of course, but your entire knowledge of memes would also have to change. You’d have to forget that you knew how a huge part of the trend started with “i can haz cheeseburger.”
You’d have to forget that you owned a cat, which will change your entire memory of your life history about adopting the cat, getting home in time to feed it, and how it interacted with your other animals or family. Almost every aspect of your life is affected when you own an animal, and all of those would have to somehow be remembered in a no-cat context. Depending on how broadly we define “cat,” you might even need to radically change your understanding of African ecosystems, the history of sailing, evolutionary biology, and so on. Your understanding of mice and rats would have to change. Your understanding of dogs would have to change. Your memory of cartoons would have to change - can you even remember Jerry without Tom? Those are just off the top of my head at 8 in the morning. The ramifications would be huge.
Concepts are all interconnected, and that’s how this class of AI works. I’ve owned cars most of my life, so it’s a huge part of my personal memory and self-definition. They’re also ubiquitous in culture. Hundreds of thousands to millions of concepts relate to cats in some way, and each one of them would need to change, as would each concept that relates to those concepts. Pretty much everything is connected to everything else and as new data are added, they’re added in such a way that they relate to virtually everything that’s already there. Removing cats might not seem to change your knowledge of quarks, but there’s some very very small linkage between the two.
Smaller impact memories are also difficult. That guy with the weird mustache you saw during your vacation to Madrid ten years ago probably doesn’t have that much of a cascading effect, but because Esteban (you never knew his name) has such a tiny impact, it’s also very difficult to detect and remove. His removal won’t affect much of anything in terms of your memory or recall, but if you’re suddenly legally obligated to demonstrate you’ve successfully removed him from your memory, it will be tough.
Basically, the laws were written at a time when people were records in a database and each had their own row. Forgetting a person just meant deleting that row. That’s not the case with these systems.
The thing is that we don’t compel researchers to re-train their models on a data set if someone requests their removal. If you have traditional research on obesity, for instance, and you have a regression model that’s looking at various contributing factors, you do not have to start all over again if someone requests their data be deleted. It should mean that the person’s data are removed from your data set it it doesn’t mean that you can’t continue to use that model - at least it never has, to my knowledge. Your right to be forgotten doesn’t translate to you being allowed to invalidate the scientific models generated that glom together your data with that of tens of thousands of others. You can be left out of the next round of research on that dataset, but I have never heard of people being legally compelled to regenerate a model based on that.
There are absolutely novel legal questions that are going to be involved here, but I just wanted to clarify that it’s really not a simple answer from any perspective.
Looking through that was kind of grim, this guy is really going to fuck up his brain and body (well, rather, he likely has). Reminds me of a post modern art course I had where I learned of folks who, for instance, masturbated under gallery floorboards for art, or a guy who went out to sea and just… Disappeared in the name of art. Weird, often destructive shit.
Also lol that this is on BP, the commenters were really WTFing this post, that content is usually not quite so intense.
I am seeing a lot of fearmongering and misinformation regarding recent events (CSAM being posted in now closed large lemmy.world communities). I say this as someone who brought attention to this with other admins as I noticed things were federating out....
While there is merit to your post, I will point out the obvious: your post is hosted on an instance named “lemmy world” and you are citing US enforcement codes and sections, but lemmy.world (the servers) do not reside inside the United States. Lemmy.world (the server) would be subject to the laws of the country in which it is hosted, the admin team would be subjected to the laws in the countries in which they reside, the community moderators would be subject to the laws in the countries they reside, and the lemmy.world users would be subject to the laws frrom where ever they reside.
So, you can’t simply link to a writeup about some US regulations and assume it’s going to be exactly the same everywhere and for everyone.
Who are these people that are smarter than us? Do you know them? What are their qualifications?
I don’t know and I don’t need to know. They are clearly capable of reading sources that are authoritative (e.g. EFF) and applying a modicum of logic and common sense. Their response is rational rather than breathless and dramatic moral panic.
Did you not consider that not everyone is subject to American law…?
Of course there are countries other than the US. International safe harbor exists for a reason. Can you name one country that doesn’t have a safe harbor provision for web site hosts? Just one.
Did you not consider [that] most [instances] do not fall under American law?
It would be interesting to know how many Lemmy instances don’t fall under US law. I don’t know. Do you? Based on which source?
How come that every Lemmy admin who replied to this post expressed their concern regarding this issue? Explain to me why admins like sunasaurus and db0 are working on tools and solutions to address this problem if, according to you, this is not a concern.
So that’s two who are working on tools. Not panicked and not viewing this as a giant problem. Two out of thousands. It’s an exceptionally low percentage and not even remotely statistically significant.
Are you REALLY SURE that this is NOT a concern?
A concern? Sure. Is anyone going to prison if they don’t bow to your demands right now as you’ve suggested up and down this thread? Unlikely.
What is your usual account? Why are you hiding? Do you plan to plant evidence and then call the authorities?
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Very good, I have been thinking of something quite similar. A “what if I could have everything I want” social media platform. Here are some of the most important aspects, maybe they are useful to you:
-Self-governing communities like Lemmy (not sure if instances make sense) with very fine-grained control over who can see and post what. You can either have a completely open community where everyone can see every post and everyone can post OR you can have an invite-only community where users can only see posts since they joined (and are allowed to see) and every post is anonymous OR anything in between.
-I like Lemmy for the ability of instances to block each other, but not sure how that makes sense in the context of a decentralized backend.
-Users should have the option to post anonymously or at least pseudonymously (on a community basis) in any community. They should have a choice if they want to share their post/comment history and with whom. Of course, communities have control over whether they allow that or not too. You might have one community that doesn’t allow anonymous posting at all, and another that only allows it if you have some form of reputation like karma. But I think optional pseudonymity on a community basis is a MUST. And if mods ban a pseudonymous account, the entire account is banned; they can’t just come back with more pseudonyms. I know people will get riled up over this, but I think it is important to let people speak their minds without fear of repercussions, also it’s important for privacy and to protect from doxxing.
-Also, optional automatic post pruning, where posts are deleted after X amount of time.
-Ideally, you should have the ability to have a community be like a Reddit sub, a 4chan-like board, or just you and your friends’ private server.
-Communities can be forked by anyone with the right permissions. They will become the new mods, and the fork with the most users gets to keep the name. For that reason, communities aren’t necessarily hosted on instances like Lemmy, but on some decentralized backend like IPFS. This is so you don’t have to copy all the content and user data, but just the references to it, to make forking as low-cost as possible. This is done to rein in the power of mods, making them work for the users. Also, it would allow communities to more easily naturally split without losing old content.
-I would have an “app market” for community-created feed algorithms, block lists, filtering algorithms, etc., where users can pick based on features, hosting cost, etc… AI filtering is well and good, but it’s still expensive, so you have to account for that. It would give users the ultimate power over their own user experience. I hate outsourcing social media algorithms to other people; it’s like outsourcing your own brain and letting others decide what you think.
-Reposts should be lumped together in yout feed. Ideally, you wouldn’t see the same post twice. This also applies to media; the same photo with a different title shouldn’t be shown twice. But perhaps you have some threshold where if the context is different enough, you show it twice.
-Like you said, AI post/comment filters. For example, I only want to be able to see left-wing comments or comments about cats or positive/negative comments. Comments could be clustered into categories like that, perhaps creatable by the users themselves. Also, I want the ability to see a broad mix of these categories. For example, for political subs, I want to know what each political orientation is thinking about this.
-Comment filters for the most unique comments. It should show me the one guy in a million samey comments who thinks there is a wizard conspiracy behind all world events, if I want to see that.
-Comment section summary, telling you what all the unique opinions in the comments section are. So if there are 10,000 comments about cats and one about a dog, I want to see 50% what the cat and 50% what the dog people think in the summary. Something like that.
-Built-in text post/link summary.
-A trending feature like Twitter, but more with smart keywords, not hashtags. So, for instance, 100 posts about the same soccer game with completely different content are shown in trending with the keyword “Frogfordshire Divided vs. Botingialera FC.” I believe that should be possible and financially viable with LLMs in the near future.
-Reverse image search should be built in, and possibly even image-to-text that will then show you similar text posts to what is in the image.
-Similarly, automatic AI captioning/summary of photo, video, audio content for better search and also for people with disabilities.
-A separate feed like TikTok that aggressively tailors to your revealed preferences, alongside the regular feed. Like how YouTube has a normal feed and one for shorts.
-You should have “recommendation algorithm save points.” I often click on one wrong YT video and my entire feed is off all of a sudden. So, I would like to be able to revert to the earlier point in the recommendation algorithm. Honestly, with modern ML embedding-based algorithms, that shouldn’t be that hard. You just allow users to save their personal vector/embedding. It’s literally just saving a history of vectors equivalent in size to tweets (Xweets? Xs? exes?).
-A built-in conversational AI would be nice, that you can ask about any comments on a post, what is in the post, what is in the image (like “Identify this mushroom for me”).
-Custom multicommunity feeds like multireddits, and also searches explicitly within this multicommunity. I often browse the Imaginary network for concept art, which just lumps together multiple subs.
I would say the forking, the visibiliy/posting permissions, pseudonymity, custom feed/filtering algorthism are the most important features. Everything else is just nice to haves.
Ok, I’m having a slow day… so I’ll try and summarize some possibly useful knowledge!
You can find them on eBay and various sites. Search for “Chinese cash”. I wouldn’t pay more than 5$ a coin. Here in Vietnam, 2-3$ for Chinese coins in good condition is normal (Vietnamese ones cost extra). In Singapore, maybe 5$.
Be advised that online vendors probably buy in bulk from antique shops who have picked out anything actually rare from their stock. So claims of “rare” are almost always false, and claims of “ancient” are irrelevant – so many hundreds of millions of these coins were produced that anything less than about 2200 years old is super common. There are a few exceptions, like coins produced by weird factions and rebels and stuff.
There are a lot of fakes. Some of the fakes are also ancient – those are interesting. Some depict “fantasy” dynasties from legend that never existed. Like if it reads “dragon phoenix eternal dynasty” or something, it’s fake, but might still be hundreds of years old. Also some temples and whatever issued coins for visitors. This type of fake often goes on family shrines (at least they do with my in-laws).
Then there are modern replicas (I won’t call them fake as they are not produced with the intent to sell as the real deal). These are mostly for divination (e.g. I Ching), feng shui good luck charms, or for religious use. These are usually pretty obvious as they lack any real patina.
One way people collect these coins is to try and get one from every emperor. Or to create N-emperor charms, I think the most common is the 5-emperor charm (Shunzhi, Kangxi, Yongzheng, Qianlong, Jiaqing). These are used in traditional feng shui – since China was prosperous under those emperors, their names bring prosperity or something like that. You hang it somewhere specific.
Personally, I’m an anti-feng-shui practitioner. I optimize my life for the worst possible feng shui, so I get cheaper stuff superstitious people don’t want. It’s worked pretty well. Can maybe apply to these coins too – the coins for 5-emperor charms are probably more in demand. By this logic, I would make a 5-worst-emperors charm to save money (I am notoriously shrewd in matters of finance).
Next, to date the coins, you normally read the text from top-bottom-right-left (there are a few exceptions that are clockwise too I think). These symbols form the historical period when the coin was minted, which usually won’t be an exact date, but often will be within a decade or whatever unless it’s one of the ones that was produced for centuries. Sometimes there are mint marks on the verso you can use too.
You tell which part of the coin is up, by looking for the character “Bao” (寶). This is almost always the leftmost character. The character ‘Tong’ (通) is a common right-hand character, but there are several others.
Complicating matters is the occasional use of old imperial seal script instead of traditional Chinese characters. You’ll know it when you see it :D Some coins have a version in both. Knowing these things, you should be able to ID a coin on Google within about 30 minutes if you can’t read Chinese (I know this because I can’t read Chinese).
All the above applies to the Tang dynasty (say 621 CE and later). These are the more interesting and diverse ones. Earlier coins are harder to assign dates to. Wu Zhu coins (going back to 118 BCE) have some small differences over time you can sometimes use. Then before that, you’ve got knife money – little dull bronze knives that were used for trade as they could be melted down into real knives and tools. These get more expensive though, if you stick to Wu Zhu and Tong Bao coins it’s pretty affordable.
If you get a coin you can’t ID, or think you’re getting ripped off, ping me and I’ll give it a go!
Also as a shameless plug, if you message kong_ming on my instance, a Byzantine maze of technologies will set into motion, resulting in a I Ching reading sent back to you. Unless some part of the Rube Goldberg machine is down :D
(It’s a prototype hardware random number generator sitting on my desk, sending data over MQTT to the cloud, where a python script calculates yarrow-stick divinations, that then get sent to a Lemmy bot)
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Tesla braces for its first trial involving Autopilot fatality::Tesla Inc is set to defend itself for the first time at trial against allegations that failure of its Autopilot driver assistant feature led to death, in what will likely be a major test of Chief Executive Elon Musk’s assertions about the technology.
SAN FRANCISCO, Aug 28 (Reuters) - Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) is set to defend itself for the first time at trial against allegations that failure of its Autopilot driver assistant feature led to death, in what will likely be a major test of Chief Executive Elon Musk’s assertions about the technology.
Self-driving capability is central to Tesla’s financial future, according to Musk, whose own reputation as an engineering leader is being challenged with allegations by plaintiffs in one of two lawsuits that he personally leads the group behind technology that failed.
The first, scheduled for mid-September in a California state court, is a civil lawsuit containing allegations that the Autopilot system caused owner Micah Lee’s Model 3 to suddenly veer off a highway east of Los Angeles at 65 miles per hour, strike a palm tree and burst into flames, all in the span of seconds.
Banner’s attorneys, for instance, argue in a pretrial court filing that internal emails show Musk is the Autopilot team’s “de facto leader”.
Tesla won a bellwether trial in Los Angeles in April with a strategy of saying that it tells drivers that its technology requires human monitoring, despite the “Autopilot” and “Full Self-Driving” names.
In one deposition, former executive Christopher Moore testified there are limitations to Autopilot, saying it “is not designed to detect every possible hazard or every possible obstacle or vehicle that could be on the road,” according to a transcript reviewed by Reuters.
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Hi all. Noob question/s here. I want to be able to access my Immich server (docker) externally and maybe set up some others (e.g. Mealio). My understanding is that I need (should) use NGINX reverse proxy for this. My questions are:...
I’m still relatively new to NGINX Proxy Manager myself, but I’ll give your questions a shot. It doesn’t matter how (or where) you host your proxy instance, what matters is that the requests can get to it so that it can forward them to the correct resources. So simple answer to question one is no you can host locally.
If you host it locally you need to make sure that you forward requests that come into your network on to the proxy to be routed correctly. This is where port forwarding comes into play. You’ll need to set your router to take any requests that come in on port 80 or 443 (HTTP and HTTPS) and send those to your proxy.
As for question two do you need to purchase a domain. You can use a free domain name or you can pay for one that part doesn’t matter. The domain isn’t a technical requirement until you want to start hardening your instances with SSL. To get a cert you’ll need a domain. But if you set up your port forwarding and a proxy you could send a request to some_subdomain.123.456.789.123:80 (your external IP) and the proxy server will take thar request and translate it to the local server mapped to some_subdomain.
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Even the fediverse feels like a bunch of hierarchies. Some have a council with code of conduct on top, some have a benevolent dictator. As a user, you have very little say in the relationships between the large instances. It’s easier to become a sovereign instance at the moment, compared to the dark times of twitter and reddit, but as soon as the large instances decide not to federate with the world by default, you’re back to square one. It’s very similar to citizen vs country, and country vs country interaction.
half-century old, horizontally-organized global computer network
I’d say that only Tier 1 networks are horizontally managed. The name itself implies a hierarchy. There is an organization on top granting AS’s to legal entities, and assigning IP addresses to them. An average ISP customer has absolutely no say about what happens higher up in the hierarchy.
Sure, you can try to bootstrap a flat network, but that has it’s own disadvantages. And I’m saying that as a member of a project trying to build a meshnet using network protocols with more or less flat topology. (Disaster radio, Meshtastic, Reticulum).
The EU itself also has a Mastodon instance with the funny, overly clear name of social.network.europa.eu
But only the institutions of EU, not for EU residents.
I like this idea because it becomes very easy to verify authenticity especially now that verification badges on X is just subscription badges without verification. You simply set up a subdomain of the form social.country.tld (much like the German parliament did) and you’ll know [email protected] is an authentic representative for a political party or whatever. No money involved other than running the instance, which will be a tiny cost for something as niche as one offering a voice for the parliament alone.
So I hope this takes off even more around the world. It is certainly a more democratic way to do social than paying some dude in America that runs his personal garden to have badges.
This post/ thread has devolved into back and forths and name calling. You can disagree with how a mod on our instance acts, however I have seen no example of a mod acting in any kind of bad way. There was no arguing. She simply shared her view point. She also said she wouldnt do anything to the report against her. I am not sure what more you want. If you ever think we are power tripping, there is a mod log for all to see. I see no use in keeping this thread open for the time being however. Locking this
A.I.’s un-learning problem: Researchers say it’s virtually impossible to make an A.I. model ‘forget’ the things it learns from private user data (finance.yahoo.com)
I’m rather curious to see how the EU’s privacy laws are going to handle this....
TIL of the UNDER THE INFLUENCE series in which artist Bryan Saunders took a different drug everyday and drew a self portrait. (aussie.zone)
👉BoredPanda article with portraits...
Please stop with the fearmongering, if you are a US lemmy host follow preserve and report guidelines, stay vigilant, follow ongoing discussions of fixes and solutions and you should be fine. (www.eff.org)
I am seeing a lot of fearmongering and misinformation regarding recent events (CSAM being posted in now closed large lemmy.world communities). I say this as someone who brought attention to this with other admins as I noticed things were federating out....
PSA: You can upload images to a Lemmy instance without anyone knowing
EDIT...
New Communities, Fart Stories And Story Time
!storytime...
YouTubers can take training courses to remove warnings from their permanent record (www.engadget.com)
Reject modernity. Embrace tradition. (feddit.cl)
edit: Don’t do this. Embrace modernity and don’t pollute the soil.
Questions about Lemmy
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Meme Templates - A community for Meme Templates (programming.dev)
!memetemplates...
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What are the coolest coins in regular circulation from around the world?
cross-posted from: lemmy.crimedad.work/post/14038...
Oingo Boingo - A place to talk about new wave band OIngo Boingo
!oingoboingo...
Fashion Porn - Runway and haute couture fashion images. SFW. (lemmy.world)
replicates r/fashionporn
Tesla braces for its first trial involving Autopilot fatality (www.reuters.com)
Tesla braces for its first trial involving Autopilot fatality::Tesla Inc is set to defend itself for the first time at trial against allegations that failure of its Autopilot driver assistant feature led to death, in what will likely be a major test of Chief Executive Elon Musk’s assertions about the technology.
Noob NGINX / self-host question
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Elon Musk appearance at Valorant Champions tournament met with boos, crowd chanting 'Bring back Twitter' (www.pcgamer.com)
Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions.
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c/whatanime - A community to help you find the source of the anime content you found in images, videos, etc. (lemmy.world)
Hey, Lemmings....
Suggest me self-improvement accounts on the Fediverse
I used to follow on Reddit:...
Most of My Instagram Ads Are for Drugs, Stolen Credit Cards, Hacked Accounts, Counterfeit Money, and Weapons (www.404media.co)
Do you think opensource + Fediverse will develop into some kind of political force/movement in the next years?
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/3932795...
1 killed, 4 wounded in shooting in Copenhagen's Christiania neighborhood, police in Denmark say (abcnews.go.com)
The German Rhineland-Palatinate State Parliament has ditched X (Twitter) in favour of open-source decentralised Mastodon (gadgeteer.co.za)
Starfield leaker arrested after selling copies on Internet (www.gamescensor.com)
Lemmy Server on Unraid
Been trying to work out how to do this but it seems be way out of my league....