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Aria ,

I looked out of curiosity and the equivalent thread on Reddit is praising this decision.

OprahsedCreature ,

Nazis?! On Reddit???!!! 😱

Frogmanfromlake ,
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They’re all for authoritarianism when it’s a country they like.

library_napper ,
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How can he be anti-State and pro communism?

What_Religion_R_They ,
@What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net avatar

do you have any other wisdom you may utter?

AntiOutsideAktion ,
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnXUFXc2Yns

stolid_agnostic ,

Not sure what you mean. The economic system is separate from the state.

Alaskaball ,
@Alaskaball@hexbear.net avatar

State for who? big-honk

toomanyjoints69 ,

How does it honk without opening its beak?

Omega_Haxors ,

t h e

" f r e e "

w o r l d

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

*some restrictions may apply

muad_dibber ,
@muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Always relevant: Loyal citizens of Pyongyang in Seoul

Poggervania ,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

So they’re saying that the dude was praising North Korea because he wanted a united Korea that lives under Pyongang’s socialism, claiming that less people would be in debt and there’d be less suicide. Didn’t read the actual poem itself so idk if the dude was praising Kim Jeong Il or if he was just saying how cool it’d be to live under socialism.

I’m not quite sure how Korea is in general outside of “North bad, South good”, but it sort of sounds like South Korea is just practicing censorship here. Does South Korea have freedom of speech?

roguetrick , (edited )

“North bad, South good”

You should know very well that it's not that simple with any regime the US props up. South Korea has been getting better, but it has a nasty history. Mass murders, disappearances, it's not pleasant. It's not like the revolts they were having in support of the North were fake. I think it took them until the 1990s to have a government that wasn't a military dictatorship with reeducation concentration camps.

Poggervania ,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

Jesus, I didn’t even know it was that bad. Like I said, I don’t know how Korea is in general outside of “North bad, South good”, so I had no idea South Korea was even a dictatorship at a point.

Thanks for the very brief crash course :)

dmnknf ,

The US brought someone from the US who was long removed from Korea just to be their local dictator.

The US destroyed most cities in the north and killed more than a million Koreans, mostly civilians. There are a lot of statements from the US generals saying that their objective was to just destroy the whole country and kill as many Koreans as possible indiscriminately.

kayjay ,

Had MacArthur had his way, Hiroshima would look like a safe haven compared to Pyongyang. He suggested using nukes "tactically" in North Korea to take out strategic infrastructure like bridges and tunnels. But that’s kind of like bringing a cannon to hunt sparrows. This was the US’ most celebrated general at the time on account of his success in the Pacific Theatre during WW2 and enormous success defending South Korea; what he said could really only be overruled by the President, which is ultimately what happened.
The top brass didn’t care about civilian casualties. That much is obvious when they suggest using full-blown nukes just to take out bridges.

stmcld ,

Do you know of any books detailing all these facts? Trying to build up my knowledge collection before even these events are misrepresented.

TomHardy ,
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“Immovable Object: North Korea’s 70 Years At War with American Power” by A.B. Abrams comes to mind. It mostly uses Western or SK sources and documents published/declassified and the resulting picture is so cruel you won’t sleep for nights

Omega_Haxors ,

It’s been my experience that there really is no nuance when it comes to any regime the US props up.

MiddledAgedGuy ,

I hadn’t heard any of this. I have very little trouble believing it though. I’ll have to educate myself.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Western neoliberal democracy 🤪

OprahsedCreature ,

“Free Country”

buh ,
@buh@hexbear.net avatar

yeonmi-park

OprahsedCreature ,

“In North Korea, if you say the wrong thing or speak out, they’ll jail you for 14 months, even if you’re a senior citizen”

“Ms. Park, didn’t they just do that in South Korea?”

“…also every 39 minutes they stab your balls”

Erika3sis ,
@Erika3sis@hexbear.net avatar

“…also every 39 minutes they stab your balls”

구글, 조선으로 어떻게 이주하나요?

hackris ,

Same

ShimmeringKoi ,
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

In totalitarian South Korea…

RTRedreovic ,

It’s not the worst for the South. I mean, compared to the Mass Murders that the Yankee regime in collusion with the Fascists committed in the 50s and 60s. This is just touching the surface.

OprahsedCreature ,

Gonna have to ease them into that one, a lot of Lemmy still isn’t ready for that bit of history.

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