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SoyViking , in Should you have to pay for online privacy?
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Capitalism drives innovation!

The innovation:

grue , in Should you have to pay for online privacy?

No, in the sense that violating people’s privacy should be disallowed entirely and not be a matter of “consent.” If a website requires payment then it should be a payment from all users in order to receive access, not just from privacy-conscious users in order to receive privacy.

swordgeek , in Should you have to pay for online privacy?

Sorry, there are no remaining questions.

It is as unethical as it can get. It’s evil late-stage capitalism, and the people perpetrating it should be strung up.

oftheair , in Should you have to pay for online privacy?

Yes, we think we should pay but in the sense that we should put more money into non venture capitalist and non shareholder backed, non-commercial, open source and privacy-focused sites and services etc, and forgo the commercial sites and services that think they need to erode our privacy in the first place.

Naich , in Should you have to pay for online privacy?
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That’s fair enough. They can do that on their site and I’ll just not bother reading it and go somewhere else. Fuck them.

JackGreenEarth , in Hundreds of Brits used website to look for ‘suicide partner’

Maybe address the underlying reasons people kill themselves, and legalise assisted dying if it’s an unsolvable problem, rather than trying to do a bandage solution and try to ban the means for people to kill themselves.

BallsandBayonets , in Hundreds of Brits used website to look for ‘suicide partner’

The site, which we are not naming

That’s a refreshing thing to read

AFC1886VCC , in Hundreds of Brits used website to look for ‘suicide partner’

Helen Kite’s sister, Linda, advertised for a partner in 2023.

Linda contacted a man through the partners thread and met him at a hotel in Romford, East London.

They consumed a toxic chemical and died together on 1 July 2023.

But there was worse to come.

In September 2023, Helen’s other sister Sarah - devastated by losing Linda - also went on the forum, ingested the same toxic chemical and died.

What the fuck. This is dark.

southsamurai , in Hundreds of Brits used website to look for ‘suicide partner’
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Or maybe, we should just recognize a person’s right to death.

Emperor OP ,
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It’s not illegal to attempt to commit suicide in the UK (as it has been in the past), the important but for me (having a couple of family members try to take their own lives) is that it is done in a safe way with appropriate checks and balances.

RootBeerGuy , in Hundreds of Brits used website to look for ‘suicide partner’
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Prepare for the most boomer comment ever…

“_Looking for a suicide partner, we used to call that marriage.”

Palacegalleryratio , in Hundreds of Brits used website to look for ‘suicide partner’
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I suspect I’ve got a bad read on this, but I mean… if you’re going to do it, wouldn’t you want someone to do it with too? Companionship in those final moments?

Maybe ‘The Seventh Continent’ had the wrong impression on me.

BrundleFly2077 ,

Woah. Hanneke reference out the gate. I don’t know how I feel about this news story, but I know how I feel about this comment.

Kin 🐰

Emperor OP ,
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I suspect I’ve got a bad read on this, but I mean… if you’re going to do it, wouldn’t you want someone to do it with too? Companionship in those final moments?

I’d have thought that the least worst answer is to legalise assisted dying. It won’t be easy getting the balance right, and I know disability campaigners are especially concerned about it, but it has to be better than having a “suicide buddy” website that is wide open to abuse.

Palacegalleryratio ,
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Yeah. Got to be better. Also rather than banning this website, wouldn’t it be better to look into what is driving people to suicide? I’m guessing a lot of it is social, health and economic conditions that could be addressed by government if they truly cared and weren’t just moralising.

thejoker954 , in Hundreds of Brits used website to look for ‘suicide partner’

Everyone has the right to die if they want.

While I understand the loved ones point of view it is supremely selfish to say “you have to keep suffering, because I don’t want to feel bad.”

maybe it will get better. Maybe it won’t. If I dont wanna take that gamble anymore I shouldn’t be forced to. Especially if its something you have been fighting for years.

Skua ,

I agree with that, but there is not the slightest of chances in hell that making into a thing you do with social media will ever turn out well

ShimmeringKoi , in Hundreds of Brits used website to look for ‘suicide partner’
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kid4today , in Former U.S. President Trump suggested that the streets of the United Kingdom were replete with death and destruction — and a Kamala Harris presidency would give the U.S. the same fate
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Yeah, I can’t step out my front door without being murdered, it’s just murder and death all day long. I must’ve been killed at least a dozen times today.

Hossenfeffer ,
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jabjoe , in Energy price cap: Typical household to pay £149 more a year from October
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“Why does gas make my green electricity provider more expensive?” …parliament.uk/why-is-cheap-renewable-electricity…

wewbull ,

This isn’t the whole story.

There’s also the fact that National grid are very wary of running without spinning turbines being available to restart the grid if a problem occured. The number of cases where, in retrospect, we could have switched gas off, but didnt, is growing month by month.

Apparently they have a plan to do it using pumped hydro stored energy, but we are always turning the wind power down rather than turning the gas off.

Once Dogger Bank is online it’ll be very common to have too much power being generated, and yet I’m sure gas will dictate the energy price if something doesn’t change.

jabjoe ,
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It’s all faith really. There is no faith renewables can see us through when the wind is no blowing and their is no sun. Maybe tidal will help easy that fear. I absolutely believe there is plenty of time gas could have been off but wasn’t.

When the faith is there we don’t really need gas, that will when the price is decoupled and the markets will kill gas overnight.

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