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CaptainKickass , in Mosque leaders find moments of hope after violent disorder

Have any of the mosque leaders condemned the violence that led to the riots?

frankPodmore OP ,
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Have you?

CaptainKickass ,

How hard is it say that stabbing children is wrong? šŸ¤¦šŸ½

FFS.

frankPodmore OP ,
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And yet you still havenā€™t actually said it. I think itā€™s reasonable to ask what it is you have to hide.

CaptainKickass ,

Youā€™re a pedantic child, apparently

CaptainKickass says they stabbing children is wrong

Now I will block youā€™re childish, pedantic ass šŸ˜˜

GiveOver ,

What about your mum? Has she condemned it yet? Why not? Itā€™s not hard

blackn1ght ,

Whatā€™s it got to do with the mosque leaders? Does absolutely everyone have to make public statements?

GreatAlbatross , in UK protests: No 10 to hold Cobra meeting over escalating violence
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For those unaware, despite the (awesome) sounding acronym, a COBRA is a meeting in the Cabinet Office Briefing Rooms.

They generally involve people at the top of the decision tree for the involved parties. The meetings for the foot-and-mouth outbreak for example brought in the highest levels of MAFF.

Emperor OP , in Far-right thugs throw rocks at Filipino NHS nurses on way to work
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If they donā€™t like foreign workers keeping the NHS going they are welcome to refuse medical treatment. Thatā€™d fix a few problems.

Zip2 ,

As soon as these twats are identified then put them on NHS black list. And strip of all/any benefits.

And deport them to Australia.

tiramichu , in Far-right thugs throw rocks at Filipino NHS nurses on way to work

I hate that I have to share a country with these people.

The UK that I grew up in was multicultural, and proud of it. And now this.

So much misplaced anger. Yes the economy is fucked, and your life is probably in the shitter, but immigrants arenā€™t the ones to blame for this. Blame the 1%

Emperor OP ,
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So much misplaced anger. Yes the economy is fucked, and your life is probably in the shitter, but immigrants arenā€™t the ones to blame for this. Blame the 1%

Which doesnā€™t suit the 1% hence all the misdirection of peopleā€™s anger. They learned their lesson during the French Revolution and the Russian Revolution drove home the fact that it can happen again and theyā€™ve been running scared since.

tiramichu ,

Oh yeah, of course. The rich have done a very good job of deflecting blame and convincing people the blame lies elsewhere. Excellent marketing and diversionary tactics.

Just wish people would see through that.

Emperor OP ,
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Just wish people would see through that.

That is one if the most annoying aspects - theyā€™re being played and either donā€™t known or donā€™t care. Some people want to wreck things and arenā€™t that picky about the motivation.

Lemmygradwontallowme , (edited )
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You know, the funny thing is, that these Global South/Third World migrants, most of them have migrated mainly because the Global Northā€™s countries decided to dominate these migrantsā€™ countries through unequal exchange/resource and labor exploitation, such as the Philippines, which is the reason they came here in the first place; to escape poverty!

KevonLooney ,

They learned their lesson during the French Revolution and the Russian Revolution

How long do you think rich people live?

Emperor OP ,
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Donā€™t they just shed their human suits every now and again?

Joking aside, Itā€™s never about the individuals, itā€™s the system of greed and vested interests. Once the robber barons get their hooks in they can be difficult to shake off this side of the guillotine or firing squad.

EnderMB ,

The UK that I grew up in was multicultural, and proud of it. And now this.

Was it?

I fully support multiculturalism, but these cunts have existed for decades, whether itā€™s the national front, Britain first, EDL, BNP, etc.

The only difference between then and now is that back in the early 2000ā€™s we treated these cunts like nutters and didnā€™t entertain their delusions. They were treated like youā€™d treat anyone with extreme views - with caution and distance.

Naich ,
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I put the blame 100% on politicians and newspapers who pandered to the racists and dressed racism up as ā€œlegitimate concernsā€ in order to stoke up anger and get votes. Their policies gave us Brexit and now this shit. Wankers.

EnderMB ,

They absolutely deserve the blame, but the point is that these people have always existed, and probably in much larger numbers than weā€™d like to believe.

A lot of people seemingly believe that the UK went from a country that loves all immigrants to a hate-filled country in just over a decade of Tory rule, but all that has happened is the government and the media have informed the public that extreme views are welcome in society.

IMO what needs to happen is a swift push from the government to say ā€œno, violent protest will result in prisonā€ AND actually fucking stopping them. The police know ahead of time where people are protesting, and the second so much as a can is thrown at a building the police should be making arrests - hundreds of them. Doing anything else sends a message that peaceful protest results in jail time, whereas torching an immigration law firm or hotel is fine.

r00ty Admin ,
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Yeah, I grew up in East London. I remember clearly in the 80s my Sikh PRIMARY SCHOOL classmate, was beaten up by national front thugs. Yeah, primary school kids were fair game.

People like this have always existed. Make no mistake, they're always on the periphery, waiting for an excuse to use as the thinnest veneer of their main intention, just to come out and start a fight.

nonailsleft ,

So much misplaced anger. Yes the economy is fucked, and your life is probably in the shitter, but immigrants arenā€™t the ones to blame for this. Blame the 1%

I think itā€™s a misconception that these people are angry at immigrants for economic reasons. Theyā€™re angry at immigrants because theyā€™re racists.

Schal330 ,

They are without a doubt using whatever they can as an excuse to be their racist selves. Unfortunately the media and Facebook/WhatsApp echo chambers exacerbate the issue further, working these Neanderthals into a violent frenzy

ShimmeringKoi , in Far-right thugs throw rocks at Filipino NHS nurses on way to work
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Asafum , in Far-right thugs throw rocks at Filipino NHS nurses on way to work

Racist right wingers in the US: ā€œWeā€™re not racist! You people call all Republicans (conservatives) racist! Also, Kamala is a DEI fake black person.ā€

Most of the worlds conservatives: ā€œFUCK YOU PEOPLE THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM ME!ā€

Itā€™s almost like most ā€œconservativesā€ are racist assholes no matter where theyā€™re fromā€¦

5ibelius9insterberg , in Far-right thugs throw rocks at Filipino NHS nurses on way to work

To be fair: Nurses sometimes do stab people.

ā€¦with Syringes

ā€¦to help them

Emperor OP ,
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Monsters!

BruceTwarzen ,

It could even be aā€¦ Vaccine šŸ˜±

DakRalter ,
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Itā€™s definitely Bill Gates with his 5g microchips!

alcoholicorn , in Planned anti-immigration demo in Doncaster passes quietly after only one protester turns up

Wait was the only demonstrator the guy who planned it?

echodot ,

Nigel farage, no he doesnā€™t turn up to anything.

floofloof , in Huw Edwards pleads guilty to making indecent images of children

According to the article he was sent the images by another man, he repeatedly asked the man not to send underage images, and he didnā€™t keep the images or forward them. He was charged with making indecent images of children and pleaded guilty. Does this mean that anyone who is sent such images can be legally guilty of this, even if they donā€™t request or want the images and delete them right away? Could malicious parties use this to get anyone they choose into trouble by sending them images? Or are there other considerations that go into making such a charge?

TedZanzibar ,

According to the Crown Prosecution Service, making indecent images can have a wide definition in the law and can include receiving them via social media.

Edwardsā€™s barrister Philip Evans KC told the court: ā€œThereā€™s no suggestion in this case that Mr Edwards hasā€¦ in the traditional sense of the word, created any image of any sort.ā€

I suppose the facts that he a) retained some of the images, b) didnā€™t report having received them and c) continued talking to the man has some bearing on his charges.

theskyisfalling , in Far-right thugs throw rocks at Filipino NHS nurses on way to work

These cunts are the ones that should be put on some disgusting prison barge before being forced onto an aeroplane and sent off to Africa not the poor people that risk their lives to try and come here to seek asylum.

See how long they last last over there with their pathetic way of thinking. We lost our membership in the EU because of ignorant fucking idiots like this, now we have to put up with this kind of bullshit. This country is a fucking joke, these ignorant white English cunts need to fuck off.

Being English is such a fucking embarrassment.

reaper_cushions ,

No one in Africa wants them, you may fly the plane past Pine Gap, though, Australia being your former penal colony and all.

theskyisfalling ,

True. It was more a reference to them wanting asylum seekers shipped off to Rwanda (I think it was), but in reality I donā€™t wish these people upon anyone.

boyi , in Malaysia is first country to issue ā€˜do not travel to UK' warning over riots

Why do they have to spin the story?

Newspaper Title:

Do not travel to UK

The Exact Malaysia Travel advice:

Malaysians residing in or travelling to the United Kingdom are urged to stay away from protest areas, remain vigilant and follow the latest updates and guidance provided by local authorities.ā€

IndiBrony , in Malaysia is first country to issue ā€˜do not travel to UK' warning over riots
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Iā€™d thoroughly agree with this. Heck, Iā€™m a white British male and these riots make me fearful. Fuck this whole situation, man.

solsangraal ,

are they blaming all brown people for the stabbings? what do they think theyā€™re going to accomplish?

mannycalavera ,
@mannycalavera@feddit.uk avatar

what do they think theyā€™re going to accomplish?

Nothing

do they think?

No

Skua ,

Considering that a whole bunch of EDL supporters and adjacent groups are involved, making brown people feel unwelcome in the country is absolutely the goal

Emperor OP ,
@Emperor@feddit.uk avatar

what do they think theyā€™re going to accomplish?

Smash stuff up, scare minorities. I donā€™t think they have put much thought into it.

ByteOnBikes , (edited )

are they blaming all brown people for the stabbings?

If Iā€™m only taking the word of commenters in the news and social media, the videos of people interviewedā€¦ Itā€™s ā€œImmigrantsā€.

That depends on what they consider an immigrant, which very often extends to anyone non-white.

On look, they were targeting Filipino nurses too.

what do they think theyā€™re going to accomplish?

Terrorism.

apotheotic , in Malaysia is first country to issue ā€˜do not travel to UK' warning over riots

Is there any outlet providing aggregated information about all the riots so far? Iā€™d like to find out more but naturally " UK riots" just brings up the most recent event because of how media works

Streamwave , in More than 100 arrested in London as violence flares after Southport stabbings

Thereā€™s a lot of simmering anger, resentment and frustration in many communities in this country. Itā€™s been building for years. The stabbing of those poor girls at their dance class by the son of Rwandan immigrants seems to have been the straw that broke the camelā€™s back.

This isnā€™t just the EDL (an organisation which disbanded more than a decade ago), this is thousands of English people who are furious. We can try and understand the sources of that fury, and then begin the work to resolve it, or weā€™ll keep getting these sorts of horrid outbreaks of ugly violence.

jabjoe ,
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We donā€™t know the details yet. But, if this stabber was a white kid, weā€™d all be talking about mental health. Non-white kids of immigrants can also have mental health issue. But the worse of the country jump straight to racism, blaming the culture of the immigrant. If this lad grew up here, he has been surrounded by our culture. If there is mental health issues, itā€™s our fault it wasnā€™t caught in time. If he went mental for cultural reasons, we canā€™t wash our hands of that either. If we want assimilation, we canā€™t other people.

Emperor OP , in Malaysia is first country to issue ā€˜do not travel to UK' warning over riots
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Coincidentally, a friend of mindā€™s grandfather was Malaysian and she was already scared to go out. Iā€™m definitely not sending this to her.

awesome_lowlander ,

Probably not an unreasonable fear at the moment?

Emperor OP ,
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Itā€™s all understandable - although the violence is relatively isolated, I imagine it can be tense on the streets at the moment. So I can see why anyone would be worried, especially if you are a woman of colour. Iā€™m not sending her that report because I donā€™t want to add to her anxiety at this time.

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