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iamdisillusioned , (edited )

It’s just marketing. Elon wants dumb tesla bros to think their truck is built to that accuracy. No need for it to be reality.

rusticus ,

Well his paranoia was fed (rightly) by sites like Reddit who ate his lunch over panel gaps on the model 3. He wants this to be better and there’s nothing wrong with that!

Jagger2097 ,

Will the steering wheel fall off still? We need more innovative features like that

And009 ,

Sadly this could work, no one’s gonna be verifying this shit and the ones who do won’t reach enough tesla bros

Snapz ,

As opposed to smart tesla bros?

InternetTubes ,

Basically, it’s an admission that the cybertruck is going to stand out like a sore thumb due to normal wear and tear.

flucksy_bango ,

Also it’s ugly as sin.

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@sh.itjust.works avatar

Did you know there’s people out there that know how to jailbreak all tesla cars?

They can disconnect those cars from the centralized service to keep them from being controlled by the corporation that made them.

those BMW and ford cars that have certain features locked behind a monthly subscription service can be jailbroken too.

You’re not doing anything wrong if you pay to have something you bought modified. If you paid money for it, you own it…I don’t care what the fine print in any ToS has to say. You buy it, it’s yours.

Pogbom ,

Ethically I agree completely but this should only be done if you’re past your warranty (or don’t care about it).

nucleative ,

I agree. And be ready for the insurance company to deny all claims related to the vehicle once they discover the “modification”.

khalic ,

can’t you just install a honeypot that simulates the stock firmware?

rog ,

Sure. But you cant pretend that its some super secret that only non corpos know about and be surprised when the tech who makes the inspection knows what to look for

khalic ,

Yeah I forgot not everyone has terminal and code experience necessary to add customisations…

PersnickityPenguin ,

People do car modifications all the time, and the car is still covered under warranty.

Since the vehicles don’t burn any gas and don’t have any emission standards to comply with, the issue here is even less important.

CharlesDarwin ,
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

Why does Space Karen still have all his fanbois? Do they really think he’s some kind of software/technology/business genius, even after all that has come out about him?

EtzBetz ,

I wouldn’t say I was a fanboy, but I liked him before … I don’t know, he was always crazy. These days he’s even more crazy and I’m not touching anything he does.

AustralianSimon ,
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Same. I think it happens with any billionaire the longer the media focuses on them the more of their crazy comes out.

GladiusB ,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

I honestly think that is anybody. Anyone can appear crazy once you get to know them.

AnxiousOtter ,

I’m pretty confident not everyone goes on crazy drug fueled racist, homophobic rants. No matter how well you get to know them.

GladiusB ,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Crazy and racist are two different words. Wonder if they have two different meanings?

AnxiousOtter ,

No clue what this reply is supposed to mean. Yes, crazy and racist are two different words. Yes, Elmo has gone on crazy and racist rants. Sometimes independently, sometimes together.

GladiusB ,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Well I was responding to crazy. Not racist. And saying most people are crazy is poignant. Saying most racist is not the same.

AustralianSimon ,
@AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

You’ve obviously not met my grandma, the difference is she isn’t in the public eye.

eee ,

I think everyone just has a tiny bit of crazy in them, but they meet enough people to realise they need to temper their worst instincts.

The more rich/powerful you get, the more yes men you meet, and the more you think “hey i’m actually right all the time after all”, and the more you start justifying your own craziness.

Jax ,

No you guys just got fooled by his very good PR team

SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE ,

I can’t stand him but Starlink is so fucking awesome. Having high speed internet fucking everywhere is a game changer.

Liz ,

It’s not gonna be high bandwidth though, just low latency over long distances. It’s primarily for stock exchange information.

ApolloTanuki ,

Mate, it’s the opposite that’s true. Satellite communications are high latency, low (ish, Starlink is actually not that bad in this respect) throughput.

bugieman ,

Umm, high latency means slow reactions. I think you and OP meant the same thing, but you have the terms mixed up

Liz ,

I did more digging and:

  1. Starlink bandwidth is better than I was expecting.
  2. I can’t find the video that did all the math, but basically by using a low Earth orbit network you can get information long distances faster than you can with cell towers and fiber because you’re significantly reducing the number of repeaters you need without significantly increasing the distance the information has to travel.
    “Traditional” satellite internet uses satellites that are much higher up, which is where the high latency comes from. The LEO means comparatively lower latency, though the advantage over ground-based networks only works over significant distances. It also means you need more satellites to make a functional network and you need to replace them more often.
    The higher cost to orbit made the old model the correct way to do satellite internet, and now a bunch of billionaires are betting they can replace satellites cheaply enough to make money off a LEO network. Rural customers might be a happy accidental revenue stream, but the most enthusiastic customers will be people sending market information between servers on opposite sides of the globe. To them, billions of dollars can be made by getting information a millisecond before everyone else, so they’re the ones who have the biggest interest in using the network.
SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

I also think signals travel faster through a vacuum (speed of light) than through a medium like copper or even fiber optic cables.

But I’m not a physics dude, so I don’t know how much that impacts latency. But from I know about it, seems plausible.

I think there’s a bit of a bandwagon kind of thing where everyone wants to say anything that Musk is associated with is a dumb idea. Starlink isn’t a new idea, I remember reading about the idea of a LEO satellite constellation concept in Popular Mechanics back in the 90s. I think it was Microsoft that was considering getting in on that back then, but it never happened.

The “genius” of Elon Musk is that he simply has the resources to implement ideas found in old Popular Mechanics magazines. Just didn’t really look into Hyperloop enough (not feasible) before going on about how great an idea it is. Starlink does make sense though.

flucksy_bango , (edited )

Eh, not saying starlink isn’t good, but it’s not exactly novel. It didn’t take a genius to come up with the idea, which I very much doubt musk did, but the work that needed to be done and the service provided is impressive.

Musk did very little in that effort beyond paying the bill. I don’t really think that’s something to be commended for. Bill Gates could’ve paid for it and the result would have been identical.

clutch ,

Bill Gates still doesn’t get the internet thingamajig

flucksy_bango ,

Nobody gets it, but that wasn’t my point.

eestileib ,

Nah, he caught on late but he got it. He’s been out of the game for a long time, so people don’t remember when he was running MSFT. Guy was the real deal.

SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE ,

I’m definitely not praising Musk, I’m just saying that I’ve been really happy with my Starlink dish. I don’t like that I’m supporting him financially in this small way but it fits my needs too well.

flucksy_bango ,

I didn’t think you were. The dude is so mind bogglingly rich that the concept of currency starts to unravel.

stopthatgirl7 OP ,
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Until Elon decides to pull the plug on your access for ego reasons..

reddithalation ,

wow that was a really interesting article. the only thing impressive thing elon musk has done is getting the smart people together to form spacex, and i sure hope its out of his hands at this point so he cant drive it into the ground.

doom_and_gloom , (edited )
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    reddithalation ,

    yeah not adding a water deluge system like every other launchpad ever was an obvious mistake. the pad (and tower) were mostly fine though, it just destroyed the concrete directly under the engines.

    personally i find it interesting to watch them messing around, but i dont really support them. if starship doesnt work out, oh well, it was cool to see them try (and fail) anyway.

    and elon musk is clearly a bad person.

    SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE ,

    Thanks for sharing this article. We’re all at the mercy of the rich and powerful.

    Ilovethebomb ,

    Him and his companies have achieved some very impressive things, most notably Tesla being so far ahead of the pack with EV technology, and Space X with their reusable rockets.

    Regardless of your opinion of him as a person, he has achieved some impressive things.

    CharlesDarwin ,
    @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

    Which part(s) did he do, though?

    jungekatz ,
    @jungekatz@lib.lgbt avatar

    I think they do , two of my school friends are his fanbois and even after his open goofup at twitter they be like , Elon musk , rocket boi , innovator and genius , first to invent sattelite internet ,he has enginnering degrees in making cars and rockets and should stick to it ! ( i was like no he does not have the degrees) 😏

    CharlesDarwin ,
    @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

    Well, he did a cameo on Big Bang Theory, so he must be an engineer, right?

    eestileib ,

    He is talented, just not at engineering or science particularly.

    His talents lie in obtaining government subsidies and trolling.

    CharlesDarwin ,
    @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes, agreed.

    kokesh ,
    @kokesh@lemmy.world avatar

    He really is a moron 🙈

    WorldWideLem ,

    Every time I see it I can’t get past how hideous it looks. I just don’t get it…who’s the target demo for this thing? They’ve already been beaten to market by non-absurd looking trucks, how big could their market actually be?

    Venutianxspring ,

    Entrepreneurs that miss playing the Sega Saturn?

    SinkingLotus ,
    @SinkingLotus@lemmy.world avatar

    People whose first love was Lara Croft on the PSX?

    Staiden ,

    Bro, Sega Saturn is was an amazing console. It still holds its own. It was arcade games at home. To this day, if you don’t want to drop the cash on a Capcom CPS2 or Neo Geo MVS. Just get some nice HORI fighting controllers and you have the next best thing.

    captain_aggravated ,
    @captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

    The problem with the Sega Saturn wasn’t Saturn, it was Sega. And to an extent, Sony.

    GreenMario ,

    It’s like if Homer Simpson designed a car.

    Oh wait it happened.

    Furbag ,

    Machining parts to that precision would exponentially increase the cost of the individual parts. This is something that will never ever ever happen and I’d be willing to bet my entire fortune on it. No Cybertruck will ever be mass produced with all it’s components within 10 microns of tolerance. Elon might roll one off the line like that to prove that it can be done, but nobody other than his billionaire buddies would be able to afford one.

    Palkom ,

    And if he manages to get one off the line, it’ll go for 20 meters and then break down due to bearings and bushings being fouled.

    Tangent5280 ,

    Or just sieze up when its been in the sun for 20 seconds

    Redex68 ,

    It would probably cost tens or hundreds of millions to produce an entire car to those tolerances.

    Like that tolerance is literally insane.

    Syldon ,
    @Syldon@feddit.uk avatar

    It is not possible to build car parts to that level of precision. They will warp more than that in the heat of the day. It is just a marketing pitch to the idiots who buy his crap.

    theterrasque ,

    Cybertruck Pro - for when you really need to burn some money

    Hazdaz ,

    “All parts for this vehicle, whether internal or from suppliers, need to be designed and built to sub 10 micron accuracy.​”

    LOL

    Yeah ok.

    Tell me you know nothing about manufacturing, without telling me you know nothing about manufacturing.

    That one quote - assuming it is accurate - explains that Musk is even more of an idiot than everyone already knew he was. You don’t make things at those tight tolerances. A couple of dimensions on a part might be (for instance the bore on a press fit sleeve), but you’d almost never, ever hold an entire part to that tight of a tolerance.

    In imperial units, 10 microns is .00039". A human hair is roughly .001 to .005" thick. So he is asking for a tolerance that is 3 to 10x smaller than the thickness of a human hair. To put the absurdity of Musk’s demand into perspective, most parts that go into a car are roughly an order of magnitude looser in tolerance with some dimensions being 2 orders of magnitude looser.

    That difference might not sound like a lot, but holding something to +/-.0039 versus +/-.00039" could easily triple the price of an item or more. Easy. You use a tight tolerance only when you need to - that’s engineering 101. Some parts could easily be +/- .039" and not affect their performance on bit. Close tolerance engine parts might be held at what Musk is demanding, but never “ALL PARTS” would be held to that.

    KnaehoejKarse ,

    No customer would ever pay for that accuracy on all parts.

    Hazdaz ,

    No customer would NEED that accuracy on all parts. Just shows what kind of clown Elon is.

    Corkyskog ,

    When I was young I got a job at a manufacturing place that made all sorts of parts for sensitive equipment. Younger people, or people with steady hands would debur and smooth. We would have these huge magnifiers and friggin microscopes and be working with what looked like a really long tiny exacto knives that needed to be replaced every 5 minutes or a couple dozen uses to get that stuff to spec. You can spend 20 minutes on a piece, think it’s perfect and then QC would send it right back because they somehow found some tiny inconsistency or groove you didn’t or couldn’t notice.

    There is no way you can expect that level of accuracy, unless your willing to pay for clean room level stuff. Even we weren’t always quite that accurate depending on the end use and they charged like almost $50 for something that looked quite like something you get a hardware store for 50 cents.

    Hazdaz ,

    huge magnifiers

    Probably an optical comparator.

    PsychedSy ,

    Using a comparator for deburring breaks my QA addled mind.

    Nilz ,

    I work in semiconductor industry where machines need to have sub-micron positioning accuracy and even we don’t generally design parts with 10 micron tolerances, unless it really needs to.

    bhmnscmm ,
    @bhmnscmm@lemmy.world avatar

    Not to mention the fact all the tolerances should have been determined before mass production began. You determine the dimensional requirements and develop the manufacturing process to deliver that.

    There is absolutely no way they have the systems and tools in place to properly measure every part with sub 10-micron accuracy and precision either. To control those dimensions you need to go a whole additional order of magnitude out. I pity the fool that has to manage that control plan.

    Hazdaz , (edited )

    develop the manufacturing process to deliver that.

    Exactly. I’m sure his engineers did the right thing and know what they are doing, and now the top executive steps his foot into the mix and will muck everything up.

    I know exactly how the people that I have worked with in the past would have dealt with this - surrly engineers and quality managers who knew how to handle tough bosses. They would let the whole situation cool off for a day or two first. Then go tell him how much more expensive the truck would be if they tried to hold every dimension of every part to +/-.0004". Any sane CEO would quickly know he fucked up and issue some retract. If that still didn’t sway him because of his ego, we probably would stop even listening to him altogether. He has shown that he is utterly clues, so would he even know a part held to 10 microns versus one held to 100 or even 1000?? I’m guessing no. If he asked if these new parts were held to the tighter tolerance, we’d say yes and just go on about our day.

    frezik ,

    The whole Twitter fiasco suggests Tesla and SpaceX know exactly how to do this. Managing their idiot CEO is part of the training. Existing Twitter management didn’t know how to do that, and we haven’t seen the last of the consequences yet.

    YurkshireLad ,

    Except this is Musk, and anyone that embarrasses him by showing him how stupid he is, will get fired and publicly shamed on twitter.

    Hazdaz ,

    In many ways, it is their own fault for wanting to work for that clown. It’s not like it isn’t known that he is a terrible person and incompetent boss. We would get lots of fresh grads post up on the engineering subs on Reddit asking about jobs at Tesla. WTF? Why would you WANT to work there? We would try to talk sense into these people but few would ever listen.

    aesthelete ,

    twitter

    *shitter

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    engineering 101

    Mechanical engineering 101, us sparkies don’t get to learn that stuff until we get into the real world. Not bitter just disappointed in my uni.

    Hazdaz ,

    Seems like EEs are not taught a lot of practical things in school.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Yes. The field is way too broad and has been for decades. I have all this knowledge in my head that I never get to use (integration of 1 over the square root of arctan squared of x cubed), knowledge that would have bern useful in the 1970s (this is how to build a class C amplifier without soldering), and knowledge that would have been useful but wasnt taught (this is what FLA is).

    The ideal would be to break it up into a few different degrees. Guys and gals working in Software Defined Radio shouldn’t have the same training as those planning powerlines.

    I lost it on an intern a while back who wanted to drop out because “we aren’t learning anything practical”. Yeah I know kid, get your piece of paper and get to work.

    Hazdaz ,

    I’ve heard almost the exact same thing from MEs as well. Both are sooo broad. I mead I get WHY they try to teach you anything and everything, but it does seem overwhelming and at the same time seems like you haven’t learned anything useful even when you really have. You simply don’t know if you’ll be working at a nuclear power plant dealing with thermodynamics or a car maker mostly dealing with design or as a project manager at some other company dealing with vibrations. There’s just no way to know. The path your work life leads is impossible to predict so they sort of have to teach you a little about everything.

    ZodiacSF1969 ,

    Damn, I’m an EE and my university wasn’t too bad for having a good mix of theory vs practical. But I’m aware a lot of EE courses don’t do that.

    BTW, are you Australian too?

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Nope. I might have been to harsh a bit. My sub-field (controls and automation) is notorious for being poorly documented and most of the tech being very vendor specific. So you learn on the job.

    I am sure plenty of the semiconductor EEs will disagree with me.

    ZodiacSF1969 ,

    Ah yeh, fair enough. I didn’t do any controls and am. Now having to learn a bit for my job, but I like learning at work. It’s more fun than university.

    grue ,

    Really? I’d have thought EEs would learn it in the context of something like circuit breakers using bimetallic strips or the effect of heat-cycling on soldered joints.

    nekusoul ,
    @nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

    As someone who knows almost nothing about the topic, wouldn’t some (most?) of these parts be big enough that a small change in temperature or air pressure would cause these parts to expand/shrink enough to go over the tolerance limit?

    Hazdaz ,

    Thermal expansion of steel is .0000072" per degree F. All you would need is a 100 degree F temp change to blow that tolerance out of the water. And 100 degrees is not that much when it comes to cars. A freezing cold day versus a boiling hot day in the summer is a temperature swing more than 100 degrees. A ICE engine runs at roughly 250 degrees F so that right there would easily expand parts way more than the tolerance he is calling for. On an EV, I don’t think anything gets that hot, but the motors still get warm.

    PersnickityPenguin ,

    Is that per inch or per foot?

    Hazdaz ,

    That’s inches per degree F.

    pocopene ,

    But one unch of material doesn’t dilate as much as one foot of the same material. I guess that’s what they mean when asking “per inch per foot?”

    Thetimefarm ,

    Yes, and different materials will have different rates of thermal expansion. That’s probably why the pixel 7 camera glass was cracking for no apparent reason when winter hit. Imagine coming out in the morning and finding all the glass in your car shattered because it got cold overnight. Or even worse you take it out of a heated garage on a cold day and the glass shatters while you’re driving.

    PsychedSy ,

    We compensate for thermal expansion. The standard temperature things are measured at is 68F/20C. So if it’s 72 degrees we’ll compensate it back to 68 in software for the material we’re measuring. We use scale bars of known length and similar material type to verify scale. (I run laser trackers and laser radars.)

    For measurement equipment that’s stationary, like CMMs, you just control the environment.

    BeansLeg ,

    Just coming in to say you are completely and absolutely correct. 🍻

    Ryumast3r ,

    I’ve told many (usually new) design engineers that they’re stupid for asking for 0.001" tolerance on parts when they only need 0.005 “or 0.010”. The difference between 0.010" and sub-10 micron is easily a factor of 100 in most parts, ESPECIALLY when you’re talking larger steel components like panels on a freaking car.

    Hazdaz ,

    Unless you are talking about a press fit location or some kind of high precision alignment issue, almost nothing needs anything tighter than .001" and .005 or .010" is perfectly fine for most things. I work with a lot of weldments so if we’re within .030" we consider that good enough.

    PsychedSy ,

    +/- .030 good enough for most skin panels on airplanes.

    JohnDClay ,

    Gear teeth I believe need to be precision ground to less than a thou for best efficiency and life. But that’s not for most things.

    eee ,

    ESPECIALLY when you’re talking larger steel components like panels on a freaking car.

    not just that, he said “all parts”. The stitching on the seats, the floor carpets, USB ports, cupholders and the A/C vents have to be more accurate than the width of a human hair too

    AlDente ,

    I don’t see anywhere in the article where Musk says “tolerance”. He specifically says “accuracy” and goes on the talk about listing more decimal places instead of rounding. Any mention of tolerance is done by the author of the article. If certain dimensions are not naturally rounded to one, or even two decimals, there is no reason not to list it to three or more on modern drawings. GD&T can specify whatever tolerance is necessary without relying on a decimal-based block tolerance. I’d be interested in seeing the original email but it seems like there is a misunderstanding by the author given the context being discussed.

    I default to three decimal places for all my basic dimensions on both in and mm drawings. One of the benefits of GD&T is that you can give provide additional dimensional accuracy, completely independent of the tolerance being specified.

    JohnDClay ,

    That’s a really good point. If this is actually for the intervening calculations, that’d make a lot more sense.

    Hazdaz ,

    The linguistics of metrology is not exactly a topic I’m particularly passionate about, but if yiu look at the technical definition of accuracy, it essentially is the same as a tolerance.

    Accuracy: the degree to which the result of a measurement, calculation, or specification conforms to the correct value or a standard.

    And when it comes to decimal places, you’d never display more than you really need. If a dimension is +/- .010" there is absolutely no reason to display it to 4 decimal places. That doesn’t win you anything. More importantly, I’m sure a company like Tesla doesn’t even use drawings at all. I’m sure they are paperless and send out their models for machining.

    AlDente ,

    I think there is a very important distinction between accuracy and tolerance in engineering. +/- .010" is not a dimension, but a tolerance that can be applied to a dimension. However if your example was changed to a .010" dimension, I would agree with you as I stated in my last comment. There is no need to give any further accuracy to that dimension if you are just adding zeros to the end (unless you are using block tolerances that rely on a specific number of digits to correspond with a standard tolerance). Unfortunately, not everything is designed using the same units and you will inevitably end up with a part designed in mm that uses a bolt-on component using a hole span in inches (for example, a nice round 1-in span). If you want a +/-1 mm tolerance on that part, you wouldn’t want to round every dimension to the nearest mm because you may end up with a tolerance of 24-26 mm when you really wanted 24.4 to 26.4 mm. I like to provide true dimensional accuracy (to microns or .0001" if I’m not just adding zeros) and then apply a suitable tolerance independently, using GD&T.

    Regarding paperless manufacturing, I agree that many components are made straight from the models these days and imported directly into a CNC machine. However, there should always be a drawing or a digital equivalent a drawing. This is the contract that specifies acceptable tolerances to the manufacturer, and it will be used during QA inspection to determine if an acceptable part has been delivered.

    Hazdaz ,

    I think there is an important distinction between accuracy and precision in engineering. I’m having flashbacks of sitting in class when the professor was going over this stuff. I honestly always found it some of the most boring topics in the curriculum.

    eestileib ,

    One of my physics profs had a story about this. He needed two resistors to be very similar in performance for a circuit he was making, so he asked for a couple of the super-high-quality ones.

    His advisor said “fuck that, get the 1% bin, they’ll be bimodal at 1% above and below rating, sort em and find two that match to the degree you need”

    That’s kind of analogous; do you need to try to hit a particular value (accuracy) or do you need things in a consistent relation to one another (precision)?

    FiskFisk33 ,

    hah historically Teslas body panels are closer to +/- .39"

    PersnickityPenguin ,

    Engine parts? Tesla’s don’t have engines, they have electric motors which shouldn’t need this level of precision. Electric motors they have today work pretty well already.

    spark947 ,

    Isn’t the metal body going to expand depending on the temperature? This is so unhinged.

    nslatz ,

    What happens to the tollerences of the panel gaps if you park it half in the shade and half in the sun,

    barsoap ,

    On a Tesla? If you do it just right the gaps will even out.

    spark947 ,

    Six sigmas of deviation. Stuff is so figured out by u dustrial engineers. What a clueless idiot.

    Grant_M ,
    @Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

    No amount of accuracy is going to fix the ugly of that thing.

    squaresinger ,

    In the full email he goes on to tell the engineer what a micron is.

    I guess, he just read that word somewhere and now feels cool that he knows it.

    It would be cute if he was a junior manager, but this way it’s just sad.

    Echo71Niner ,

    You really think he wrote it? He has an army of engineers working for him, many of which would kill their mothers to get on Elon’s good side, corporate culture is same shit different smell no matter the corporation.

    whats_a_refoogee ,

    The leaked email has his name on it and the leak claims it was an email from Elon to employees. Can’t really tell if the leak is real or fake, but if it’s real then Elon is definitely the one who wrote it.

    Based on his proclivity to say dumb shit and his inability to keep his mouth shut, I’m inclined to believe it’s a real leak.

    blady_blah ,

    This 100% sounds like him. I don’t see any reason to doubt it given that if someone was going to make something up it wouldn’t sound like this.

    candyman337 ,

    Hilarious considering the panel gaps in all his other cars, dude is fucking insane. Unattainable standards don’t breed better work they breed exasperation and apathy.

    Aopen ,
    @Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Truck is machine dedicated for transportation of goods. Not art from museum.

    Pazuzu ,

    Da.

    fubo ,

    Cybertruck, Cybertruck,
    Engineers say “what the fuck”
    Micron fits for auto steel?
    Those are not a thing that’s real
    So deal! Deal with it, Cybertruck.

    666dollarfootlong ,

    I read that in the Spiderman themesong’s rhythm lmao

    fubo ,

    This is what the refrance

    kamenLady ,

    A pretty good refrance… Macron should take notes

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